What Is The Story With Mitofsky?

[davidlynch]

Poll question: What Is The Story With Mitofsky?

Given everything you know about Mitofsky, and in light of the Nightline interview, what is your impression of this important person?

[TaleWgnDg]

1. Uummmm, Mitofsky stated his errors the day AFTER the

election . . . indeed. Tis nothing new.


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[bruised]

2. See this post before you vote

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1168254&mesg_id=1168254

[Helga Scow Stern]

4. Great post, bruised.

If you'd have put it here, maybe they wouldn't have locked it.

[skids]

3. He's wrong, but I don't know why...

I'm not inside his head. I don't know why he's come up with this slapped-together theory. It could be for any of the reasons listed above, or something else entirely.

[Peace Patriot]

5. This polls shows just how tricky polls can be...

The total for Mitofsky being WRONG (for whatever reason) is 69% (combining those four questions), compared to only 26% (one question) who think he's right (as of my current visit to this page). When you first glance at the poll, you think a lot of people think he's right.

Lots of problems with this poll.

What if you think Mitofsky is both scared and bought?

What if you think the word "analysis" is a bit grand for what Mitofsky did? (--word used in the question - "analysis").

What if you think this poll is about the Exit Polls (which showed Kerry won) and don't even know how Mitofsky has disgraced himself trying to explain that result away based on line-of-baloney arguments that have no data behind them?

What if...? --but you get my drift.

IF that 26% know what they're being asked--IF!--then it's a bit shocking that 26% of DUers could buy that piece of crap of an "analysis"!

But I guess 5 votes ain't that many. Could all be freepers and in-denial-ers.

[davidlynch]

6. Please Speak to the "No Data" Explanation

Please say more about the "no data" explanation. I was wondering whether Mitofsky was making up the rationale.

[anaxarchos]

11. It IS the way the questions were asked...

... kinda like "moral values".

[Helga Scow Stern]

7. I would have prefered that denial was one of the choices...

Denial is a strange phenomenon. It happens in the face of the unthinkable, what is too threatening to one's worldview to accept, or that requires too much strength of character to accept, because it would shatter all of one's basic assumptions.

I have seen how normally intelligent, reasonable people will run themselves in circles to prove that a thing didn't happen, so it doesn't surprise me at all how Mitofsky is behaving. It may be beyond that stage, that he is not "innocent," -- but there is still plenty of pressure around to keep him from seeing and reporting the truth, while he believes he is being on the up and up.

This should not be underestimated. It happens all the time in the face of what does not fit, or what would threaten one's idea of their position in the world. Apply a little group think and viola!, you have the means for anyone to throw their good sense out the window and to stake their whole career on it.

[IndyPriest]

8. Similar response: he's a man of the political system and

he's willing to fall on his sword ("Not even Tiger Woods wins every time") than face other (less comfortable) possibilities.

[anaxarchos]

9. He's just defending his business...

He's the last guy in the world who want's to say "hmmm... I think I've just detected widespread election fraud". He would much rather avoid controversy, promise to "do better", adjust for a new "normal level of fraud", and go about his business.

[super simian]

10. Not to mention....

That he is covering his ass, big time! (Am I allowed to say ass on here?):spank:

[Land Shark]

12. Mitofsky sells reliability as his product

and he failed to deliver. He doesn't sell or want controversy. So he has all the incentive in the world to deny any exit poll problems even if NO pressure has been brought to bear on him by anyone.

[dandrhesse]

13. If his numbers don't add up he knows it and he knows people like

us know it, he also knows we have initiative and motivation.

[davidlynch]

14. I'm Sold--Non-Response Theory is Nothing But a Theory n/t

[dandrhesse]

15. sorry, new to posting and don't know all the terms

what does n/t mean?

My take on most of the responses and non-responses from the major players in the Dem party and others is that they give us credit for having a brain and being able to understand that they are giving us what we need if we are willing to look.

Unlike the other side that would be happy if our whole country was illiterate and blindly obedient. Those leading the fight today expect us to think, reason and act on our own to support and motivate one another and keep our movement going forward.

I don't think literally telling us what to do is a smart move or one that would be successful. From what I have read on this web site, we have plenty of experts from all fields to take the info given and run with it.

Like I said I don't know the significance of his remarks, but I am not a statistician or well versed in probabilities and the formulas used to scientifically prove that the set a data given doesn't add up, but someone here on this site must be.

[ottozen]

16. On Nightline

Mitofsky looked a little scared to me.