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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:50 PM Original message |
Think there might have been a little FRAUD in Ohio? LOOK AT THIS!! |
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bear425 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. Please email this to Bev Harris at bev@blackboxvoting.org |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:25 PM Original message |
I emailed it to BBV.org earlier today. |
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redsoxliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. i Saw that... could it be provisional or absentee? |
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YellowDoginthehouse (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Well, if it is... |
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redsoxliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. oh, I agree completely, just playing devil's advocate |
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Lalock (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #14 |
75. You have no idea... |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 07:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
55. Hi YellowDoginthehouse!! |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Don't think so |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Yes, but the Provisional voter could be registered........ |
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mdhunter (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. But provisionals could have been registered in another county, |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. I thought the rule in Ohio was that provisional votes had to be cast |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Could be Provisional, but defintely not Absentee Ballots....... |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Percentage of provisionals not registered |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Provisional ballots are not counted until Nov 11. |
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mdhunter (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. The number of provisional votes have been counted, just not who for. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. In Florida, they didn't count the numbers of provisional ballots. |
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mdhunter (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. No and yes. (m) |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. OH SOS site shows 24,788 provisional ballots issued in this county. |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. Go to the Cuyahoga County webpage provided at the original link |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Sometimes you can vote in a different precinct, |
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Justyce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Unbelievable... Signed the petition on their site. |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. More info on this thread |
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Lindsay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. Fraud or not, there are clearly |
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progdonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. God, look at Woodmere Village... |
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redsoxliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. it's ok, republicans get to vote 1586 times! |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Most likely machines got to vote 1586 times. |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Interesting |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Wer're busting this treasoness assholes! |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. I Want to Find Out the Sources of Those Numbers |
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masonfl (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
22. Population of Woodmere, Ohio... |
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Sparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Out of that 8.854 how many were for * and how many were for Kerry? |
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Tesibria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
24. ??? nothing shows up on the page ??? nt |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I get a blank page as well. n/t |
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idiosyncratic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
27. Email this to Keith Olberman . . . he's the only one talking |
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yojon (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
28. Excel file |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
56. Hi yojon!! |
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sergei kirov (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. votes in ohio |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 02:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Someone did the math on another thread, adding the overvotes |
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spotbird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. People move and their registration stays at their old address. |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. Hi sergei kirov!! |
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pdx_prog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. A few of these spread out.... |
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PatsFan2004 (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
36. Did Ohio allow early voting? In some states, voters noticed |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
37. Before we get too excited... |
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Iceburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Can Ohio voters vote in other precincts without |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. NO! |
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yojon (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Ohio data analysis (stinky) |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Let's not LET the press ignore this! |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 07:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Woodmere Village- 558 voters, 8854 ballots cast? This cannot |
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CaptAhab (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Re: Before we get too excited... |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Thanks for noticing my error, CaptAhab |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. welcome to DU...hope your calculations are wrong..no offense. |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. My calculation was wrong, thank goodness |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well, we know there were problems in several Ohio Counties... |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Hi elaineb!! |
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RememberTheCoup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
38. Has anyone e-mailed Cuyahoga BOE? Here is the e-mail address... |
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lizzieforkerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
40. In Ohio the Reps sent an absentee ballot |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. A handcount and audit will catch this -- |
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turbo_satan (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
46. Question on party and vote breakdown... |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
52. Kick to the top, also forward to everyone you know... |
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JohnnyCougar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
53. HOLY SHIT |
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silvershadow (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-08-04 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
59. I don't understand what is going on...why does this stuff |
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Mister K (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Because there is nothing there to talk about |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:33 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Actually, there is a problem here. |
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Mister K (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:41 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Those are the Sub-Totals I am talking about |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Ah... now I see. Good eye. |
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Mister K (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:00 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I am drowning in this stuff SKINNER! |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I figured out the Mayfield Village total, but what does it mean? |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. By "miscalculation", I mean it wasn't just an error in adding the numbers |
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Mister K (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. THERE IS A PROBLEM! MY PREVIOUS POSTS WERE WRONG |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. This may be a math error, but we can't be certain, yet |
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LynzM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:31 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. If you mean that no one in the 'mainstream' is talking... |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
60. Here's the actual page for Cuyahoga County |
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molly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Thanks - I couldn't get to the other link |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
84. When I put that data in an Excel spreadsheet, I see 97,489 ballots ... |
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cthrumatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
65. of course the media CHOOSES not to look at fraud.... who is telling |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. no recount for Nadar (for now) |
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The White Tree (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
69. Also what about precincts that had lower turnout? |
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Chimpanzee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
70. has anyone sent this to Olbermann? |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
76. I've been checking this in an Excel spreadsheet |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. In answer to your ? about Cuyahoga County |
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Nicholas_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
78. This is not the first case of such a situation occuring |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
79. Add this to the oddities in Cuyahoga... |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. You're right...That's something to look into further |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
81. I received an interesting email about this. |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Uh-oh |
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ailsagirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. I smell a RAT |
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ailsagirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
86. Do you realize if this is true... |
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