Need List of Dem Senators Who Supported Boxer Today

[Helga Scow Stern]

I don't want to miss any:

Dayton, Kennedy, Bayh, Byrd, Durbin.

Of course I haven't forgotten Feinstein.

Anyone else, of either party who did good?

Oh Salazar deserves a special note.


(It is too hard to go searching for this info on the other forums to which it was moved.)

[President Kerry]

1. Kerry!!

[Helga Scow Stern]

10. I already thanked Kerry last time.

Was he there today?

No speaky, no showy, no thanky...

[Pirate Smile]

57. self delete - just noticed it is a thread from yesterday.

[Peace Patriot]

59. Here's the full list--the Heroic 13 who voted against Rice...

Daniel Akaka D-HI
141 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]


Evan Bayh D-IN
463 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: bayh.senate.gov/WebMail1.htm

Barbara Boxer D-CA
112 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: boxer.senate.gov/contact

Robert Byrd D-WV
311 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: byrd.senate.gov/byrd_email.html

Mark Dayton D-MN
346 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: dayton.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm

Richard Durbin D-IL
332 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: durbin.senate.gov/sitepages/contact.htm

Tom Harkin D-IA
731 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: harkin.senate.gov/contact/contact.cfm

James Jeffords I-VT
413 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: jeffords.senate.gov/contact-form.html

Edward Kennedy D-MA
317 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: kennedy.senate.gov/contact.html

John Kerry PRESIDENT sorry...I had to do it.
304 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: kerry.senate.gov/bandwidth/contact/email.html

Frank Lautenberg D-NJ
324 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: lautenberg.senate.gov/webform.html

Carl Levin D-MI
269 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: levin.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Jack Reed D-RI
728 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]
Web Form: reed.senate.gov/form-opinion.htm

[RaulVB]

2. Wrong forum

Sorry, the mods will "axe" this tread any minute now...

[New Earth]

4. lol

they're not THAT violent! jk

[Helga Scow Stern]

12. I'm about to write in the Admin. Forum that we need to keep our

action threads here. Every dialogue with all the Senators is vital to our relationship with them about the vote. We are gaining confidence and momentum by watching them all during this amazing time. I find it a hindrance to have to go searching all over the place for what belongs here.

[Jo March]

18. OP, I added the Activism & Events thread to My Forums list

It helps me to be able to toggle between this one and the activism forum.

That could help a bit.

[Helga Scow Stern]

20. Duh. Good point.

I used to go between here and voting issues. What's with that one now?

[Amaryllis]

28. Mod combined it with this one.

[Helga Scow Stern]

31. Oh, thank you. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Well, then. I might be able to forgive Mark Dayton

for being such a lame-ass wienie over the electoral vote certification on Jan. 6. Maybe.

[ClarkUSA]

6. Read this and forgive some more

"My vote against this nomination is my statement that this administration's lying must stop now. I urge my colleagues to join me in this demand, Democrats, Republicans, independents; we are all, all of us, first and foremost Americans. We must be told the truth, if we're to govern our country and to preserve our world, and that's why we must vote against this nomination."

http://www.markdayton.org/blog/displayone.html?id=84

[Helga Scow Stern]

9. Yeah, Dayton was AMAZING.

I wrote him and said that I could almost overlook his statements on Jan. 6, and that I knew from his remarks today that he wouldn't have said that then had he not believed it. Then I told him to please make himself more aware of the situation.

[zann725]

44. I think Dayton's was the best speech by far today.

Clearly a lot of thought, and courage in a lot of his statements.

I think he and people like Reed (R.I.) are getting their courage because of Boxer, and Conyers, and our email revolution!

I wrote Dayton, and Reed, and Durbin to thank them. I should also write Byrd. He was so cute...searching in all his pockets for that little copy of the Constitution he carries.

[cosmicdot]

16. glad to hear someone use the "L" word

"lying"!

[Pirate Smile]

5. Reed and Levin.

[Helga Scow Stern]

15. Reed? I missed his speech. Was it good?

[Pirate Smile]

23. I didn't see it all but he made some good points. I wasn't expecting him

and I wasn't expecting Evan Bayh.

[coloradodem2005]

7. What did Salazar do?

[darkworkz]

8. He rolled over and showed * his belly.

[Helga Scow Stern]

13. Salazar's behavior was nowhere near

as treacherous as Feinstein. He seemed to think Rice was fine, but did make some strong points against the war. I want to thank him for that and reprimand him about promoting a liar.

[coloradodem2005]

24. Did he vote yet?

n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

25. They don't vote till tomorrow, but he said he would approve her.

[Pam-Moby]

11. What did Debbie Stabenow do?

[Helga Scow Stern]

14. Did she speak at all?

[Pam-Moby]

22. that figures...n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

26. She spoke strongly on January 6....I was impressed,

even though she voted not to contest.

[texpatriot2004]

17. Didn't Biden say something too? n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

19. Did Biden speak today? n/t

[garybeck]

21. I don't get it, about the ones who spoke for, but voted against

I'm still shrugging my shoulders on that one.

[Helga Scow Stern]

27. You mean spoke against Rice but voted for her?

During the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Meeting last week?

[garybeck]

37. yeah, and the same thing with the ohio electors

they stand up and say one thing and then they vote the other way

[Helga Scow Stern]

40. Maybe it is putting a toe in the water...

Boxer had to do it first, then Kerry, now others are starting to see that demonstrating courage and integrity is actually kinda cool.

That's why I think that keeping involved and actively participating in every important contest that comes up--even if it seems unrelated--is very important for election fraud and reform.

We are helping to empower our elected reprentatives to show some courage, integrity, and true patriotism for a change. After being beaten down, they probably really welcome it. And the funny thing is, is how fuddy-duddy and patently wrong the Republicans look side-by-side as they oppose them.

And this time, most of them who spoke against ARE voting against! So that's already some progress.

[garybeck]

48. it sure is strange

all this toe in the water stuff. It should be so obvous that Rice does not deserve a promotion, or even a job at all.

toe in the water implies fear. what are they afraid of?

the millions of people who HATE Bush and all his cronies are just waiting for someone to stand up to them!!! No wimpy toes in the water. Grab a friggin motor boat and head for them full steam before it's too late!

[Helga Scow Stern]

52. What are they afraid of....

did you listen to the Seymour Hersh speech on Democracy Now about the government being taken over by a cult?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x305443

He says that it's not a matter of lacking integrity that keeps everyone silent, but fear. I also wondered just what they were afraid of.

Ridicule? Ruin? Cults have immense power to destroy individuals from the inside out.

[dalloway]

56. first there was one (Boxer) then there were two (Boxer, Kerry) then

there were thirteen....

Come on in other Dems, the water's just fine!

[icehenge]

29. Feinstein (yeah or nay)

Was she for or against Rice?

[Helga Scow Stern]

32. Feinstein gave a kissy-kissy we love Bush speech.

I faxed all her offices saying she no longer represents her Democratic constituents in California and that I would work to defeat her in any future Democratic race.

[icehenge]

35. Arr,

I was hoping she'd pull a swith a roo.

[icehenge]

30. Republicans?

Did any stand up against Rice?
I'd like to send some faxes tonight.

[Helga Scow Stern]

33. No Republicans. Darn.

The Republicans who spoke were all fillers, filling the time and the air with BS. One was quite vicious in his attacks on Boxer--bastard--said that with her asking people to support her in stading up against Rice there was a button for donations.

What a creep!!!

Thanks for reminding me I still have to write to him.

His name is Kronyn?

[icehenge]

34. Oh well

I was impressed with the democrats I did see though.
Senator Byrd was very articulate in his statements.

Is this the guy your thinking of? John Cornyn
From Texas
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?lang=&member=TXJR&site=ctc&address=&city=&state=TX&zipcode=&plusfour=

PS. Boxer is on Cspan2 right now

[Helga Scow Stern]

39. Cornyn brought up the electoral challenge but I'm not sure if he is

the same one who said that crack about the donation button.

I'll have to look into it tomorrow, when I am not so tired.

[Carolab]

41. Yes, he is the same one who made that crack.

And furthermore, he quoted from the Schlesinger report about the torture completely OUT OF CONTEXT. I HOPE they don't let him get away with that one.

[Helga Scow Stern]

47. Thanks. I couldn't sleep so it's the perfect time to send him a fax.

[icehenge]

38. I've faxed...

Clinton(NY) and Stabenow(MI)
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

And Senator First (TN) since he is my senator.

I think Dr. Rice will win the vote , but its still worth
the effort to show a contest.

[Helga Scow Stern]

42. I think it is a good idea to keep after Frist, and you are in a

unique position since he is your Senator. I think they will feel less emboldened to know that a lot of people are watching and rating them on some real moral standards, like integrity, honesty, and courage.

[icehenge]

49. Strangely enough...

I did feel the speech Frist gave today was humble.
I expected him to dismiss objection, instead he kinda
stumbled in his message. Sort of like he was afraid to
say what he'd hoped to say. His speech was only a minute
long and he wasn't present during the debating sessions
he walked in at the last minute to talk.

Last night his voice mail was full, so I faxed him.
I hope he heard from people who wanted him to vote
against Dr. Rice.


Anyone interested in contacting Senator Frist:

Senator William H. Frist (R- TN)
Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

[Helga Scow Stern]

53. Really? I wish I had listened more carefully to his remarks. n/t

[icehenge]

58. Well

Frist did sink in a questionable remark but he didn't
say anything that was very powerful.
I'm rethinking my humble comment I made of him, Frist
just seemed to be careful choosing his words and not
making much sense.

I think he might not have had time to prepare a speech
since he was out, but then again he should be great at
ad libbing.

[CoffeeCat]

36. Does anyone know if Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) said anything? (n/t)

[zann725]

45. Don't think so. Didn't see him. Maybe tomorrow.

Although Kerry's not on either line-up.

I heard he's out of country again. If he doesn't vote on this, or doesn't speak up again...

[zann725]

43. Jack Reed (from R.I.)

And it looked like this was quite courageous for him. He and Dayton and Durbin were great!

[GetTheRightVote]

46. It is nice to see the Demo have a few good Senators anyway !!

:kick:

[Peace Patriot]

50. For anyone who needs to know, here's the list...

Voted against Condoleeza Rice:

Boxer
Kennedy
Levin
Byrd
Kerry
Reed (RI)
Durbin
Dayton
Abaka
Bayh
Jeffords (Independent)

Harry Reid (new minority leader) strongly defended these Senators' right to dissent, and Joe Biden strongly defended the truth of what they had to say about Rice--though both ended up voting for her. (This happened today along with the vote, 1/26. Most of the speeches were yesterday, 1/25.)

Kennedy, Byrd, Dayton and Boxer gave particularly good speeches. Dayton was fabulous! (Actually, they were all fabulous, but Dayton was more fabulous!).

Levin, Reed, Durbin and Bayh also gave good speeches. I don't think Abaka or Jeffords spoke.

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Note to moderators: This post is a good example of what went wrong yesterday, with your moving our post on the Condi Rice nomination right in the middle of the Senate debate. I was posting live reports of the speeches there, so were others--then a bunch of people couldn't find the post! And all these people were left wondering who said what, and who was voting which way.

A sad mistake. I hope you'll be more careful in the future. I don't mind necessary re-organization and management. But please be more sensitive to what's happening in the post at the time that you do something to it. Also, sometimes people who raise a big stink about something--like re-naming the forum, or excluding all issues but election reform--have nothing better to do than diatribe on these petty matters. Please be aware of that.

I was handicapped in joining in on the discussion of the focus of the Election Forum because I WAS SO BUSY trying to support Barabara Boxer, the key to election reform in the Senate! Think of the irony!

[Peace Patriot]

51. Go here for ALL Senate TEL, FAX, EMAIL...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x302077

Send letters of thanks to the good, and reprimand to the bad. Urge all to vote against Gonzales, because of torture memo (not a good guy for domestic law enforcement, eh?), AND because A.G. must enforce Voting Rights Act and other election reform, and as toady to BushCons, Gonzales not likely to do so. See post at this forum here today on Gonzales.

[dalloway]

54. my Senator Lautenberg joined them! I just emailed him to thank

him, and expressed my hope that he can get Sen. Corzine to join in a few more of his positions.

[Peace Patriot]

60. Yup, I goofed. My list here, that you are responding to, is...

...incomplete. Go upthread to a later posting (that I attached as a Reply just now, at the top of this thread) for the complete list.

[deacon2]

55. Sending letters of thanks but first...

This letter to my own Senator Feinstein:

Dear Senator:

I am puzzled by your vote to confirm Dr. Rice to a position she clearly has no qualifications to hold. I am further dismayed at your personal statements of support for a person who has lied openly to me and the rest of the American people about matters of greatest import to us all. Are you planning to switch parties? I can only offer this possibility for what is clearly the most Republican-like performance I've seen from a purportedly Democratic Senator in a long while - Zell Miller notwithstanding. Please remember those you represent and rejoin the party of the common citizen in fighting the most mendacious and dangerous administration in recent memory.

Sincerely,
Daniel Koenig
Citizen

[Helga Scow Stern]

61. Yours was nicer than mine. n/t