Every Vote Counted This Will Make You Boil Please Watch The Video

[PennyMan]

not a single documented case has been found of a voter being forced to wait as long as 11 hours in spite of Kerry's claims.

Now, The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer newspaper has thrown cold water on the Massachusetts Senator's statements. The paper analyzed voting machine distribution in Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland. The paper found that the machines were distributed evenly one for every 117 registered voters, both in the city and in the suburbs. If a precinct had more voters, then it had more voting machines. After reviewing Board of Election records, the paper found that the busiest machines were those found in the suburbs where Bush was favored and not in the city, where Kerry prevailed. The Plain Dealer did not endorse either candidate in the election.

Here Is The Link
http://www.newscentral.tv/uploads/franchise/point/point-20050131.shtml

[Pam-Moby]

1. Well that sucks. What a crock of shit. n/t

[minvis]

2. Look at who runs newscentral.tv

Did you notice that the company behind "The Point" is Sinclair Broadcasting Company? The same media conglomerate that ran the anti-Kerry "documentary" right before the election.

Enough said.

[Helga Scow Stern]

3. Mark Hyman, of course, is vice-president of Sinclair Broadcasting

He is a propagandist, pure and simple.

There is a good article here at AlterNet about "The Death of Local News," due to canned monkeys like him being force distributed on the airwaves.
http://www.alternet.org/story/15718

It says a lot about the Cleveland Plain Dealer that they air such scum.

It's not anything like news, it's misleading the public to make a point. Hymman loves to smear Kerry.

[roseBudd]

4. Looking in the wrong city, it was Oberlin College in Ohio, they had only 1

voting machine for the entire campus, though another college (religous not liberal arts had more) I think Oberlin is in Lake County.

So Hyman claims no one waited 11 hours, does that mean 10 hours is OK?

[dzika]

6. Media Matters - Sinclair's Hyman wrong on Ohio voting problems

Sinclair's Hyman wrong on Ohio voting problems

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502010009


On the January 31 edition of "The Point," Sinclair vice president Mark Hyman falsely asserted that "not a single documented case has been found" of an Ohio voter "being forced to wait as long as 11 hours" to vote during the 2004 presidential election and disputed the proven claim that "voters in heavily Democratic city precincts were forced to wait hours to vote." But according to news reports in the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post, that is exactly what happened.

more here
http://mediamatters.org/items/200502010009

[troubleinwinter]

5. Well, that's a good one.

"not a single documented case of a voter being forced to wait" 11 hours.

Is there a link to an article stating that voters were "FORCED"?

I think he is entirely correct... no one was forced.

They were, however, disenfranchised in many ways, including hours long lines.

[roseBudd]

16. It was Franklin County NOT Cuyahoga that assigned machines on past

precinct turnout. Cuyahoga assigned machines based on registered voters per precinct. Dem precincts in Franklin were shorted by the racist assumption that all those newly registered low income African Americans were not going to turn out.

[ROH]

7. Check out:

http://www.retropoll.org/web_of_circumstance.htm

[PennyMan]

9. That Is Good Thanks For The Post

[mirandapriestly]

14. Hmm, this was interesting

It can't be too hard to do more of this kind of thing.
From the article:
Since this article was written other investigations by the Columbus Free Press have turned up several strongly pro-Bush precincts in Ohio where Bush took over 80 percent of the votes but the vote turnout was as high as 98.5 percent. After calling several hundred registered voters in one precinct to inquire if they voted the Free Press found enough non-voting people to prove the turnout rate, and thus some percent of the large Bush vote in those precincts, was fabricated (www.freepress.org).

[EC]

8. As I said before, they can make anything look legal and above board

on paper...there may have supposed to have been more allocated on paper, that didn't make it to their destinations, or as documented on the voter call-in complaint sheets some didn't get there until near closing time....And like others have said this is a Sinclair piece of shit.

Besides, on election night on MSNBC, they showed a line and SAID that they had been there over 10 hours, and a judge had just ruled it enough and to let them fill out paper ballets....so who's telling the truth?

As we have seen truth is now relative to how it is spun and what someone WANTS to believe...

[berniew1]

10. I think there is a major problem with this analysis- appears wrong

For solid documentation of major discrepiency in who got machines, see
http://www.northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.html
click on Columbus and Cleveland

Note also, that the EIRS reports document that this article is wrong;

There were few vote machines in minority precincts and most of the ones that were there did not work; Thus not only were there long lines but many didn't get to vote at all. See the documentation at

http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html
which covers this in 20 states, but Ohio is one of them with a lot of documentation and detail- thousands of EIRS incident reports.

Also the Hearings in Ohio confirmed this.

Something very strange here??

[berniew1]

11. This was actual voters claim & backed up by non-partisan EP people in EIRS

see EIRS reports in www.flcv.com.ussumall.html for Ohio
for how long the lines were where. The long lines were reported to the EP people at the EIRS hotline by people who were there.

[Senator]

12. This means we're still setting the agenda.

The number of recent MediaMatters spots on this means that this is being talked about inside the beltway. Even in the face of the continued total mid-stream-media blackout.

The truth is a force of human nature. They can rage against it all they want, but they are helpless to stop it.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Gandhi

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www.thedeanpeople.org

[berniew1]

13. There is a bit of bait and switch here. The suppression was real and well

documented; and I'm not sure they are denying that.
The article appears to be propaganda only with no real analysis of the degree of suppression and where the long lines are.
As noted the long lines, few machines, broken machines, long lines, etc. were reported by the actual voters to the EIRS hotline in Ohio and other states.
The authors should have looked at the evidence and documentation before writing about something they apparently knew little about.
http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html

[OKthatsIT]

15. I left my comments

Very poor journalism. Spewing the same old rhetoric filled with untruths. Will America be saved from you lying scoundrels?

OF course, we do understand no one in your league has a degree in journalism, nor understand the 'standards' and 'ethics' of the profession.

Its a sad day in America, but the righteous will prevail.

Do a little research:
http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction/mythbreakerssecondedition.pdf

[EC]

18. Hahahahahaha.....good one

roflmao

[MadisonProgressive]

17. I gave him both barrels

figuratively speaking of course...:evilgrin: