OMG! Repug friend told me Condi and Clarence are House

[KoKo]

"Niggers," but that they know Bush and the rest can use them to get their programs through...Repug...Limbaugh listener said that Bush is Great because he can control them and it looks good for America that we have those "folks" who can get the Africans and others on our side since America is being threatened by folks of other "colors."

This person thinks Bush has been really clever and strong because he's willing to put folks like this in his administration...but he doesn't listen to them...they are just there because they "look good!"

How do I deal with this? It's so bizarre...how do I answer. I was speechless...except that it made sense for the Bushies...they can corrupt anything to suit their purposes....:shrug:

On Edit: I asked about Colin Powell and this person said...he was corrupted by the Liberals, and isn't really black!!!!!!!!! :nuke!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Ask your friend

where his sheet is, and when he's burning crosses. The racists went Repug ca 1964, when the Dems passed the Civil Rights Act.

[KoKo]

3. I'm not talking to her again, anytime soon....Unbelievable...sick...and

I didn't have any idea....

How could I ever be friends with her again..How could I have EVER BEEN FRIENDs with her...knowing this. In all my years, she never said anything like this before. It was when I brought up the SOU Speech...that it all came out...sheesh...disgusting. But it's a 20 year friendship.. How can this be? :cry:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

12. I'm so sorry for you

I had a person I thought was a friend who, when she found out my politics and faith, turned on me big time. Best thing to do is to forgive them their ignorance and ask the Source to enlighten them--but if you're not into mysticism, just leave them alone.

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

29. I groping with this issue myself at the moment

I have a friend who's daughter just turned 14. She recently confided to me that "although I am not a rascist, I do NOT want my daughter to date a black guy". I said, "that IS rascist." We are now having trouble with our friendship.

[rooboy]

2. Two words for your friend: Strom Thurmond.

Ask him if the rumors are true that dubya is doing her (Condi). At the very least it will mess with the prick's mind.

[sundancekid]

4. it matches how smarmysmirkchimp ran TX -- and "alberto" is just one more

[KoKo]

6. Chimps Strength seems to be pitting American's against each other...

Destroying friendships over politics seems to be the Chimp and Repugs specialty...No longer can we talk with our neighbors and be friendly in loose social gatherings. POLITICS RULE! And you are either WITH THE CHIMP or AGAINST HIM...

I can't believe this... All those years as friends where we went through all kinds of crises together...and in the end she tells me THIS?

She knew...I'd never talk to her again...but I could tell it didn't matter. What have we come to in this country if 20 year friendships come to this...?? :shrug:

[Eloriel]

23. I don't quite understand what you're so upset about

She's 100% correct. Are you saying that she was saying that it's a GOOD thing that Bush is doing this, that she was approving all of it?

If so, yeah, that would be upsetting.

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[deacon2]

7. Suspect this is true attitude of many

The GOP swept a boatload of Dixiecrats and other racists into the fold with their unrepentant race-baiting starting with Nixon's '68 campaign. I will NOT say that this is the viewpoint of most Republicans. First, I don't believe it is, and second, that's as bad as my wingnut brother-in-law "Limbaughing" me as a racist because I opposed Alberto Gonzales. But if this was all just a cynical ploy by Rove - the true architect of most decisions of this kind - would you really be surprised? Truly, could they not have found anyone of color with better qualifications than these two blow-up dolls? Colin Powell was a different story - he had cred to burn on an international scale, though I think he was in some ways intended to be sop to those who would otherwise have opposed Lord Bushie's tantrums. They must have placed a pod under his bed somewhere after 9/11 and the rest is a national tragedy.

[KoKo]

10. well said...it's a national tragedy. Especially for those of us who grew

up and know the 60's... We seem to be heading "backward in time," not progressing forward in understanding of each other...

[bush_is_wacko]

34. It sure feels that way doesn't it?

I am just waiting for some of these "Uncle Tom's" to start putting up "colored only" signs on water fountains, restaurants, and public restrooms, or protesting FOR the reinstatement of segregation! That is what feels so weird about it. They are perpetuating it on themselves as if they are taking some sort of time altering drug!

[Zan_of_Texas]

15. Cynical Republicans? Who woulda thunk it?

Here's what I think.

You know, it's common knowledge that minorities get sent on the worst, most dangerous military duty -- they come back hurt or killed more often than white soldiers.

I think the Bush Administration has its own Dangerous Duty Squad. If there is something that needs doing that might blow up in someone's face, they send a minority. That way, if it blows up, guess who gets hurt? Plus, Democrats might not attack the person because they are a minority -- at least, that's gotta be what the Rs think.

So, if ya need to defend the Administration's preparation for 9-11 (or lack thereof), ya send Condi Rice to the 9-11 Commission.

If you need to tell the UN that Iraq has WMDs, ya send Colin Powell.

If you need to win THE swing state in November 2004, ya make sure Kenneth Blackwell (formerly a domestic policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation AND a member of the Council on Foreign Relations) is in place as the Ohio Secretary of State.

And, if you need someone to say that torture is fine, ya have Alberto Gonzales.

It's not because Bush or his party believes in equality, but a cynical use of race and gender as a shield, to attempt to shield Bush from criticism or investigation.

Just my opinion.

[Bill Bored]

17. And if you want paperless e-voting machines,

you say they're good for the disabled!

[Zan_of_Texas]

24. Bingo!

Right you are, Bill.

And don't forget that Diebold's Walden O'Dell gave the National Federation of the Blind $1 million for a new building, and the Diebold website calls the Federation their "strategic partner."

The Federation of the Blind is fond of Diebold too -- on their website, the Federation calls O'Dell a great friend, and specifically supports electronic voting and Diebold by name.

[Catamount]

18. I totally agree with your synopsis! Sad though.n/t

[Al-CIAda]

26. I think your opinion is correct -eom

[ultraist]

8. Why are you using the word "NIGGER"?

Is this statment of yours appropriate Koko01? "OMG! Repug friend told me Condi and Clarence are House Niggers,"

YOU DIDN'T EVEN PUT IT IN QUOTES! WHY USE IT AT ALL? Racial slurs are not necessary, they are HATE SPEECH.


:wtf:

[KoKo]

9. It's what she said...and it's disgusting but I said what she said..

That's what's so bad about this....that folks feel they can use that word now. And this "Friend" is in PA who grew up in NY State...and has never ever used that word in all the time I've known her...

Why does she feel free to use that word now? Is it because I moved to the South and she is a NorthEasterner and thinks this would be a word I would understand now that I'm here in NC? What the hell is going on out there? If a friend who grew up in NY lived with me in NJ and never ever
said that word (although she was always more conservative than me...we got along) but NOW she feels free to say that WORD? WTF has Bush done to America...we can now curse each other out and use derogatory and demeaning racist epithets to our so called "friends?" :wtf:

[ultraist]

11. Then you should have put it in quotes and explained it better

You may want to edit your post because it reads as though you are throwing that word around lightly. Just a suggestion. :)

Thanks for clarifying!

BTW, I've seen that word thrown around more as well by Northerners. I'm not so sure racism is still worse in the South. Blacks do just as well here as they do in the North and there is a higher percentage of hate crimes in the North. But people don't consider the statistics and the facts because it's easier to cling to an old stereotype.

[KoKo]

13. Oh Jeeze! I'm totally freaked out

and you're saying I look like a racist or freep because I forgot to use quotes!! Shit...that's what's wrong with our Dems...we are always suspicious and trashing our own...FGS! Like asking me to be PC...

I did edit to put in quotes...I hope this makes you happy...maybe you'd like a copy of my CV or Resume...to validate that when I say "Nigger" I'm quoting someone else and not myself...Sheesh.. it's bad enough to be this upset but to have a harpie after me about quotes kind of makes it worse.

I hope you feel bad about what you said to me.....x( just trying to retain my sense of "gallows humor here." :-(

[greenmutha]

14. For what it's worth, Koko... I didn't take it wrong.

I completely understand where you're coming from. I have come within a hair's width of losing some very good friends of mine recently over the whole election debacle. Who knows? It still may happen. I know we seem to get testier with each other whenever politics comes up in conversation. It is very frightening to me. The division seems to be running deeper and deeper these days.

[KoKo]

16. Thanks for understanding. I can't believe it's come to this that

politics is ruining long standing friendships. This friend knows that I worked for Kerry-Edwards (but I didn't go into activism or anything with her) but she never said a thing about acknowledging that I might be feeling down, before she went off on me. I wasn't expecting it. We've always been able to kind of skirt around politics with me mentioning I was working on a campaign in the general "what are you doing." The viciousness threw me. Made me wonder if she had a think against me all these years because I was an open Dem and she was a Repug. We've had a few jokes...but nothing like this.

She should be happy....her guy is in there...but attacks me with that kind of crap....

I shouldn't have posted this. Folks here took me wrong. I was upset and looking for sympathy...not good to do on DU, unless one is in the Loungs, I gues.

But thanks :-)'s

[FreedomAngel82]

21. So strange how

even though the republicans have control over everything now they're still angry people. Are they ever happy? :shrug:

[Hugin]

20. The scary part of what you're saying...

Is that it's been said before.

Take a look at this greenmutha.

http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free.html

It chilled me to the bone. :scared:
(and I don't scare easily.)

[FreedomAngel82]

22. Very chilling

and the scary thing is when they said they had no time to think because something was always going on. Sounds like now, doesn't it? Always some sort of problem or crisis going on whether it's "war" with some country or some economic problem (as in SS) and people getting rilled up over nothing (like with Churchhill now). People are always busy and doing things, so when does one have time to research and think? :\ :nopity: :scared:

[greenmutha]

28. Yikes! History repeating itself?

Thanks for sharing that. It is very chilling, but also gave me some strength to keep on with the good fight. I will not stand idly by and watch this happen. I am desperately trying to enlighten everyone around me that has their head buried in the sand.

[Hugin]

33. Good thing greenmutha... and thanks. n/t

[ultraist]

25. I did NOT say you were a freep

I don't feel bad about asking why you used a racial slur. It was NOT clear by your OP. You did NOT use quotes the first time and it was not reading how you meant it to.

I would WANT someone to let me know if I wrote something that appeared racist.

Thanks for adding the quotes! I would hate to think that someone else reading it, misunderstood due to lack of quotes and thought that type language or attitude was prevelant here.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. I'm sorry with your friend

but unfortunetly Bush has divided us all and has done so much damage. Not only to our country but to us as a nation. Families and friendships are broken up and it's so sad. Luckily I haven't had that happen yet. I try my best to keep politics to myself because I know, unless I know they're against BushCo, I keep my mouth shut. Sometimes it's hard but I don't want to lose friends and family because of this monster. I'm not going to let him take away people that mean a lot to me.

[anaxarchos]

27. Actually, your friend is quoting Malcom X...

I think the characterization of black sellouts as typifying the difference in attitude between a handful of "house negroes" and the great mass of "field negroes" dates all the way back to the Civil War. But Malcom brought it back with a vengeance. I think he was talking about Roy Wilkins or Whitney Young but the characterization stuck in a much more generic way. Of course, there are two points that have to be made:

1) Malcom was making a scorching critique, not approving, of those so characterised...

2) What's really surprising is not existence of a tiny handful of sellouts or the existence of small number of openly cynical racist shitheads like Bush. What is surprising is their ability to find such a large number of idiot whites who will embrace such cynicism as if it it worked to their interests. After 250,000 dead in the Civil War and the reduction of the South to absolute poverty, corruption, ignorance and barefoot viciousness for a hundred and fifty years, your friend is still saying "we're doing good now master, aren't we? We sure are fooling them."

Regardless of "color", who are the "house negroes" now?

[Jamel]

30. IT'S TRUE

As an African American, although it sounds digusting the way your friend termed it, I agree with her. This is the way most blacks see people like them. People like Rice, Thomas, Gonzalez think they're "SPECIAL", and they refuse to see that they're being used. Just look at their records. Thomas doesn't think for himself, Rice let the worst disater in American History happen, and Gonzalez was a real estate lawyer who , since dealing with Bush, has been involved in sending people to death row, torture, etc. The repugs know many people just look at the color of their skin and say, "Bush is not a racist". "Self hating house niggers" fits them PERFECTLY. NOBODY respects them.

[nashville_brook]

31. thank you for this, jamel...

their use of race/identity is offensive.

i try to bring these issues down to the human level. we have senses -- use 'em.

how would *anyone* react with Condi in the room with them, telling them to their face the things she said on record during her confirmation hearing. her demeanor was condescending and to my eye, revealed her underlying wish to obscure the truth, not bring it out.

we know when we are being lied to. we KNOW when people are brown-nosing. we deal with it everyday. i can tell when i'm being condescended to by a male co-worker. i can tell when i'm being lied to.

it works for these people too -- just b/c they have power doesn't excuse them from the human race.

[bush_is_wacko]

32. Your friend is quite correct in her characterization. The fact that she

thinks this is a "good" thing only CONFIRMS what I've been saying all along.

Look, this IS our reality. KKK-style "values" have been creeping into our society for years.

I invited some "new friends" into my home for my husbands 40th b-day last year. I respected these people because they are people that sacrifice a great deal of their time to help kids and they are paramedics, fire-fighters, and other first responders. They ATTACKED one of my husbands friends because they said he acted very feminine. They kept asking him if he was gay despite the fact his "long-term" girlfriend was with him. After he left, with my apologies, they attacked MY friend because she is exceptionally beautiful and has a sort of natural flirtiness about her (which the women were apparently threatened by, despite the fact I told them she has NEVER attempted anything more than FLIRTING in all the years I have known her, and has been living with a man for as long as I can remember, but because she went through a bitter divorce over 20 years ago NEVER wants to be married on paper again. (sorry, I know that is a very long-winded sentence)

Needless to say, these people are no longer "FRIENDS!"

Anyway, these THUGS are "pillars of our society", so to speak, but when they are EXPOSED a little their true colors show right through. These same people later invited my family to attend their church. I went out of curiosity and within two months ended up writing a letter to the pastor and telling my entire family to avoid the church like the plague because it was racists and VERY anti-gay! They do make an effort to conceal this the same way bush does by having a few "uncle Tom's" prominently "displayed" among their membership. These "churches" are sprouting up all over America and they ARE brainwashing thousands.

The church I mention is an offshoot of one that has well over 4000 members in three different locations (8000 or more members total). They separate the Hispanics from the lily-white crowd using the excuse that the other location's sermons are in Spanish! I suspect the church I attended is quickly approaching that 4000 member number as well, so add another 4000 to that 8000 number and you can get a clearer picture of how many people are being brainwashed in this manner.

These churches are a DISGRACE and are GROWING and EXPANDING all over the place. They call themselves "non-denominational" in an attempt to collect "lost souls" that are vulnerable to brainwashing techniques. These churches have gone out of their way to create a stir that will be noticed and reported on by local news agencies. I would go into it, but it is really too much to explain.

I know this sounds like the worst conspiracy theory ever, but it is the God awful truth. We MUST get through to these people! I am at a loss for exactly how to do so, since I have ALSO experienced some of their hatred for voicing my opinion AGAINST them. I believe one of their members slashed my tire and she created a problem for me at my previous job. She began her campaign against me immediately after she learned I had written a letter to the pastor of this church condemning his characterization of the gay community as heathen's that were "HATED" by God. He made many other remarks that were equally as DISGUSTING. I kid you not, those were his words.