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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:33 AM
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Licking Co., Ohio: Harmon Claims Criminal Acts in Vote
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 06:49 AM by Wilms
Thanks to L. Coyote
edited to replace a dupe story, sorry.

November 2nd Truth

2/3/2005
By Melissa Knific And Erik Johns, Advocate Reporters

Harmon Claims Criminal Acts in Vote by Melissa Knific And Erik Johns,
NEWARK -- After reviewing more than 700 voting machines, Domestic Relations Court Judge candidate Paul Harmon has requested a criminal investigation of the Licking County Board of Elections.

But the county's top prosecutor says Harmon will have to take that up with the proper authorities.

Harmon, a private-practice lawyer, filed his request in a letter to Licking County Prosecutor Robert Becker.

Harmon alleges voting machines used in the Nov. 2 election have been tampered with and ballot booklets removed from them. Harmon finished second in the election behind Craig Baldwin by 214 votes.

Becker, whose office will represent the Board of Elections in the civil election challenge pursued by Harmon, said no criminal investigation is under way in his office -- and furthermore, the prosecutor's office is not the place to initiate one.

"He ought to know by now you initiate a criminal investigation with the police," Becker said, adding: "As far as I know, the sheriff's office is at 155 East Main and the police department is at 40 West Main."

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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:51 AM
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1. Gotta love the corporate media spin machine title dontcha?
Printer fails to satisfy e-voting activists

"Goddamn conspriracy theorists will freaking NEVER be satisified, will they?"

They might as well have titled it THAT way.

I want a freaking paper ballot. I don't want to have to play by some Republican SOS's rules, either. And I want to vote by mail like Oregon does. Short of that, I am not going to be satisified, as if it matters to the pukes that run this country.


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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:58 AM
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3. Sorry I had to edit because I duped it.
Would you repost your message on the other thread.

Thanks

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:53 AM
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2. While the printer route does leave a paper trail,
how many voters will actually/properly check it?
Next time the fix may be in for the local school board or city council and not for the president or congress.
The best way is using optical scan paper ballots that the voter marks by filling in a oval or box.
If there is any dispute, these ballots can be hand counted.
If there is any question, a manual recount will also eliminate and/or expose any manipulation of the computers used for counting.

If other countries can use hand counted paper ballots and have national results in a few hours, why can not the United States?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:59 AM
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4. Sorry. Please see post 3. n/t
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:03 AM
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5. This is s symptom of a fascist government
Resorting to litigation to determine if a fair vote was cast is one of the 14 indicators of a fascist government. Just another indication that we are on the slippery slope in the fall from democracy.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:59 AM
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6. So, Rush Limbaugh pointing out in October 2000 that there were
legal methods in which the Republicans could challenge the results if Bush won the popular vote but not the Electoral vote, that's not the "slippery slope" also?

Also printed in Newsweek sometime in October 2000. Newsweek, despite the calls from the right of the "liberal media", being hardly a bastion of liberal news . . .
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 10:10 AM
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7. Yes, I mean no, I mean I agree that's on the slippery side. :)
We are just continuing the down hill slide.
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