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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:37 PM
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Rep BRUCE MCPHERSON to be CA Sec. of State-wolf in sheep's clothing?
McPherson seems to be designed to allay leftwing fears, but, a) we know NOTHING of his views of electronic voting, and b) he's REPUBLICAN in Bushweird Times. Seems to be a moderate Republican, from Santa Cruz, won Assembly seat in Dem district, taught at community college (DUer at DU post below writes about this, seems to think he's an ok guy), seems to support education, bill to put campaign contributions info on line...BUT supports RE-DISTRICTING...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1230240

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/02/11/state/n100118S48.DTL

http://www.smartvoter.org/2002/11/05/ca/state/vote/mcpherson_b/bio.html

Dem Senate Pro Tem Don Perata immediately endorsed him, but, of course, that tells us nothing.

It is OUTRAGE that, once again, the MAJORITY of California voters elected a DEMOCRAT, and somehow we find ourselves with a REPUBLICAN in yet another post. Smells of Bush Cartel coup. However, not every Democrat can be trusted on Diebold, etc., as we have learned (thank you, Ojai Person!). And someone like Dem Conny McCormack (L.A. election chief) is VERY CLEARLY a wolf in sheep's clothing.

I'll come back to this matter over the weekend. Meanwhile, see the following for letter guidelines and support of outgoing CA Sec of State Kevin Shelley (resigned last Friday under fire from pro-Diebold Democrats!).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x321070

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss//duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=319175

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x319613



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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:45 PM
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1. We'll just have to see, and to keep reinforcing
that the reforms that have been made are good.

Conny has said she wants a different advisory board in the voting reforms committee. The big Republican talking point is the ones Shelley picked are "partisan", and nutjobs who oppose DRE's, who are "undermining" HAVA by not allowing counties to purchase their own DRE's without the stringent requirements imposed by Shelley.

The important thing is that the new SoS not listen to Conny and not undo the reforms. I am hopeful, maybe stupidly so, because Der Grope did sign into effect a law requiring paper trail. So why would they want to do away with it, unless this is all an evil plot to try to appear on the side of integrity, only to allow greater transgressions?

Which it could well be. Just have to wait and see. And the unredistricting may not be such a bad thing. It all depends on how it is done.

I am extremely suspicious of it.


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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 02:51 PM
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2. Hello, my friend! I, too, am suspicious...however-
I live in Santa Cruz County and McPherson is definitely known as a moderate. My father knows him...I'll try and get the scoop! From what I've read, I understand the repubs in power want Ahnuld to let go of the redistricting idea- they are afraid it will backfire on them. Now what would give them that idea? HA HA
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:03 PM
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3. I don't know what to think about the Repubs being against redistricting.
Those stories seem suspicious to me. What better way to get Dems to embrace it than to get some--Dreier?! big Thug and Arnold's close friend--to say they have fears about it? What a way to hide the salivating that could be going on.

But still, it could be a good thing. I don't like it at all that there is only one uncontested race in California districts! It makes for a lot of complacency. But than I don't know much about anything.

And I found this about McPherson:

McPherson authored and passed some very important pieces of legislation to reform the election process. He has authored legislation that would require candidates to post their FPPC reports on-line and to ensure there is no duplicative voting by requiring voters to be recognized by a unique identifier. He also authored legislation to create a bipartisan commission to study the effectiveness of the Political Reform Act, and has continuously pushed for campaign finance reform.

http://www.network-democracy.org/camp/pa/wp/mcpherson.shtml

This kind of reform is more Republican minded, since their whole schtick is to accuse evil felons, crackheads, etc. from stuffing the ballot box. It makes me suspicious if this is the kind of reform he has advocatecd. Then it would give him a platform to say he cares about voting reform. They really may want to make this a partisan issue.

I suppose we have to get busy writing all the Dems saying that they need to make sure where he stands on the reforms made by Kevin Shelley.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 03:30 PM
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4. I support redistricting. . .
it's the manner and the authority I question.

I live in a district that spans two counties and encompasses portions of more than 9 cities. We have a lot of middle class citizens and then slices of some of the most exclusive communities in California. I have very little in common with the people in more than 90 percent of my district . . . and I'm condemned to representation by Republicans, for that's the way the district is gerrymandered.

By all rights -- political affiliation, economic interest, demographics, water issues, infrastructure concerns, geographic proximity, etc. -- I should be in a district drawn to encompass the communities immediately surrounding mine. If that were the case, I'd be represented by a Democrat -- the same Democrat who presently represents my neighbors. But instead, I'm in this gerrymandered beast that snakes up the coast and occasionally bumps out to grab a Republican stronghold, and I'm condemned to having Republican representation because Democrats make up less than 35 percent of the district.

To ensure fair redistricting is the key. That, and to accomplish this at the appropriate time, which should be after the next Census. For these reasons, I can't and won't endorse Gov. Schwarznegger's plan, though I will continue to advocate for the idea (I'll just keep my "pro" opinions silent until after this latest effort fails, to avoid giving my neighbors the wrong opinion).
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:20 AM
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12. Thank you.
Yes, it is common sense. The system may need to be fixed, but this is not the time!

The gov. knew what he was getting into when he took office--part of that is getting along with the legislature. He has no business trying to pull a fast one and suddenly change everything.

I think you are right. It should be done, but this is absolutely not the time.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 04:41 PM
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5. I live in Santa Cruz
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 05:18 PM by Dookus
McPherson is widely considered a decent guy. I don't think he's part of some evil cabal to steal elections for republicans.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:15 PM
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6. I sure hope that you are right.
And keep in mind that he may be an innocent who could be used. The one thing that gives me pause--aside from the massive evil that seems to be overcoming our state, i.e. why overthrow Shelley to put someone else who sticks up for voting rights on the throne?--is his association with voting and ID's.

There is something not so good about that. And he may have been picked precisely because they knew he would be embraced. He may get into office, and then suddenly there's not enough money to implement the paper trail, etc., etc.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 05:22 PM
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7. my take on this:
Shelley brought about his own demise. I believe it was unrelated to Diebold or electronic voting. He was a schmuck. Was he ENOUGH of a schmuck to warrant the accusations and charges? I don't know. But the allegations are serious and I don't see the point of rejecting them out of hand simply because of his position on electronic voting. It's perfectly possible for him to be good on an issue and still be a schmuck.

McPherson is about as good a selection as we were gonna get. I had no delusions Arnold was going to pick a Democrat. But if it's gotta be a Republican, McPherson is a fine choice.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:23 AM
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13. A smear campaign is a smear campaign.
The man had already been judged.

The purpose was to get him out of the way, so we had damned sure better check out his replacement.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:42 PM
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8. we should demand an election for a new SoS on the fall ballot.....
since it looks like arnold and his thug fascists are gonna get a special election in the fall, we should demand a vote for a new secretary of state to be held on that election day. not sure if the CA constitution allows that or not, but a mock election would be better than letting the republicans knock off another democratic seat as per the rove/bush plan.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:51 PM
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9. with the same election software and machines?
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 07:52 PM by rumpel
on edit
and under a new SOS
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:25 PM
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10. If Ahnnnald chose him, "be very afraid."
n/t
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:30 PM
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11. nope
no reason to be "very afraid". He's a good choice. If it was going to be a Republican (and it was), I'm very glad it's Mcpherson.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:26 AM
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14. I sure hope that you are right,
but some stringent standards must be in place in order for his approval.

He may be a fine man, but is he able to stick up for the work that Kevin Shelley has already done?

That is what matters. How naive is he? Does he have real courage and integrity?
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:46 AM
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15. Bruce McPherson is okay
He's not bad for a Republican.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:38 PM
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16. Davis was something of a schmuck, too. But this is how the...
...Bush Cartel works. They are like bad bacteria. Any little wound or weakness, and they rush in to eat away that important body part.

Shelley did not "bring this on himself." I'm sorry, I don't buy that one at all. He is a normal human being/politician, with a normal human being/politician's flaws--and actually is more honest and much cleaner than most--and he DID THE RIGHT THING on electronic voting UNDER ENORMOUS PRESSURE.

The charges against him are NOT SERIOUS. They are shockingly trivial. And THAT is the problem. How/why could a PROPERLY ELECTED DEMOCRAT, who was MORE THAN DOING HIS JOB FOR THE PUBLIC, who was going OUT OF HIS WAY to PROTECT the public, come to this end--attacked by a pack of wolves, starting with a truly piece of crap newspaper, the SF Chronicle, and including pro-Diebold, anti-paper trail Democrats, and BushCon Republicans salivating for YET ANOTHER un-elected, or weirdly-elected, INSTALLED Republican, replacing a freely elected Democrat, especially one who was DOING HIS JOB?

This appointment must be seen in that context. To NOT see it in that context is to blind yourself to important truths about what is happening to this country right now, and what is happening to California. Think about it. Add it up:

• Stolen Election I. Tax cuts for the rich. Unjustified war. Lies, lies and more lies. Mass murder and massive theft. Torture, in defiance of all our laws. Massive illegality. Massive federal debt. Massive de-funding of all public services. Anthraxing of Democrats. Democrats' airplanes falling out of the air. Texas redistricting thuggery led by Tom Delay. Tom Delay preventing a paper trail provision for HAVA ever getting out of committee. Max Cleland--of all people--called a traitor, and mysteriously losing his Senate election in Georgia, in a test run of electronic voting.

• BushCon funding of recall effort in Venezuela (15% of US oil) of a twice-elected President who just wants a few oil dollars to trickle down to the masses of Venezuelan poor (PAPER TRAIL STOPS BUSHCON COUP--thank you, Jimmy Carter!). BushCon funding of Davis recall, who had amassed a $10 billion budget SURPLUS, out and out stolen by BushCon company Enron; and who tried to get California's money back from BushCon thieves. Schwarzenegger installed--chosen by George Schultz, Kenneth Lay, Michael Milken (L.A. meeting, 5/17/01, to plot overthrow of Democrats in California), Time magazine and Larry King--and the weirdest, most rushed election in history, with 135 candidates on the ballot.

• And, finally, in the 2004 presidential election, despite new voter registration favoring Democrats by 58% to 41%!!! (an astonishing effort, in the face of massive Republican voter suppression), and despite Bush being wacko in the debates, and despite Iraq lies exposed, and despite torture revelations, and despite Halliburton theft revelations, and despite utter incompetence, and despite 100,000+ deaths in Iraq, and despite the most unpopular, thieving, despised administration in U.S. history--with an approval rating UNDER FIFTY PERCENT--with BushCon companies owning the SECRET source code that counts our votes, and with no paper trail in a third of the country, and with proper recounts and auditing seemingly beyond the ability of government in most places, and with BushCon news organizations CHANGING the Exit Poll results (Kerry won) on everybody's TV screens on election day, it is INEVITABLE that we have this idiotic puppet still acting as the crowned head of our government, and his criminal gang still in charge.

• And the inevitable result: They are now going to pay for their goddamned oil wars out of the hides of pensioners, the poor, the sick, the young, and all of the middle and lower classes, while adding to the riches of the very richest people in the world, including the crowned prinices of Saudi Arabia.

It was NOT inevitable that we would have another Republican shoved down our throats in California--and, in fact, is not inevitable NOW. The Democratic legislature has to approve it.

But a number of Democrats have been bought and paid for by these BushCon thieves, and ADVOCATE paperless voting--in the interest of their own demise, apparently--so we shall see.

There HAS TO BE an honest Democrat who shares Shelley's view of Diebold & Co. who could have been nominated, in all fairness to the Democratic voters who elected Shelley. But fairness is not in it--as we should know.

The whole point of this was to put yet another Republican into a high office that he didn't have to earn. That highly suspicious circumstance CANNOT BE IGNORED. And we need a PLAN OF ACTION to address it, which I'm going to think about and post next.

One thing I know: We need to be hard-eyed, honest with ourselves, committed to the truth, and laser-like in our understanding, and in our action, in order to restore democracy in this country. And that means a hard-eyed look at the Democratic Party and its collusion with global corporations, the rich, and BushCons.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 06:32 PM
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17. GO TO new compilation thread on the California coup, by Ojai Person...
Edited on Sun Feb-13-05 06:33 PM by Peace Patriot
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=325113#325318

Join the discussion about what to do!

(What's a modern equivalent of a pitchfork?)
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