I am scared to death right now yall!

[Andy_Stephenson]

and I don't know how to calm my fears. Tomorrow I go to the hospital. I am scared of what they may find. I can't sleep and my mouth is dry. Shit! How the hell did this happen? Why is this happening to me? I look like a redheaded banana and the itching has come back. I feel like I have a thousand spiders crawling all over my body.

I admit it I am a big ol chicken. Nighttime is always the worst! I have been looking up liver diseases on the web and everything seems really really bad. I am trying to be optimistic I have slept drank lots of water eaten right...

I have never been much of a drinker always have been good to my liver...how can this be happening? Perhaps I am just being silly. But everything I have read is so...well...dire. I have faced other things I should have been afraid of...and wasn't..but I am very frightened right this minute. Any Doctors in the house? Would one single valium hurt to take tonight? I need some sleep and I am afraid I cannot do it on my own.

I really wish my Mom was here with me tonight...I think I would be less scared. I was shaking earlier..not cause I was cold...but in fear. Sorry for rambling but I am freaked ta hell out and I need a sounding board. Thanks fer listening.

Andy

[Kire]

1. big hug to Andy

:hug:

PS Don't leave any question un-answered when you go to the doctor, tomorrow. No matter what you think the answer could be.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Oh Andy

I am not a doctor but I would think one valium wouldn't hurt.

You need to relax and calm down. You can make yourself sicker.

Let us know what you find out. I for one will be thinking about you tomorrow.

Sending good vibes your way :grouphug:

[helderheid]

3. Oh God Andy

I am so sorry. I would call a doctor and ask if you can take a valium because that, or a xanax, is what you need right now. But also know you have love and support from all over the world. I have a candle lit for you.

Stop looking up liver diseases. Start looking up naturopaths and accupuncturists. The latter have been treating diseases for 4000 years, and both know what they're doing, I believe better than "standard" practices.

In any case, you are so loved and we all want you to know that. If you need anything, don't hesitate to ask. If you want me to call, PM me.
:hug::hug::hug::hug::hug::hug:

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

4. Pray. It sounds facetious, but I'm serious. Take it to God in prayer.

Seriously Andy, worrying's only going to make it worse. Put it in God's hands, and know that we're with you.

[Vektor]

5. I'm so sorry!

I may have missed something, and don't understand what's going on. Do you have hepatitis?

[Andy_Stephenson]

10. No...HEP A B anc as well as HIV have been ruled out.

the Doctor used the c fer cancer word friday. cancer survival rates for liver cancer are 4 -5 %

[Warpy]

34. Well, since they've ruled out cirrhosis and HIV

You might be able to risk that Valium tonight.

If it had been cirrhosis from either viral or chemical causes, that wouldn't be a good idea. Nearly all drugs are metabolized in the liver.

In the meantime, don't trouble trouble until trouble troubles you. The scan could be normal and they'd have to consider other things that cause intense itching.

If it is cancer, liver cancer is one of the kinder ways to go. We all hope it's something chronic and annoying, though, and that you'll be posting here for a very long time.

[Andy_Stephenson]

42. I am too young to go kindly though

and I have too much work left to do.

[Helga Scow Stern]

45. If that happens,

there will be plenty to do from the other side. So don't worry about that. There really is nothing to fear.

[Andy_Stephenson]

50. I am not so sure there is another side...

is there? I am gay...Gay people go to hell. I better butch up fast, and get rid of the frilly underwear.

Ok I just made myself laugh.

But I am still afraid of this unknown thing.

[Helga Scow Stern]

53. Relax. It's there.

Two loved ones have died in the past few years. I have no doubt whatsoever that it's there anymore.

Most traditions around the world, until Chrisianity came along and wiped them out, had direct experience of the other side.

Being gay is seen as a spiritual blessing in many cultures. A friend of mine from Burkina Faso is even writing a book about how gay people are the gatekeepers who tend the other worlds for the normal people. It is seen as a special blessing in his culture, the Dagara.

Relax. You are in good hands and there is nothing to fear. I just wish someone was with you at all times until you get through this.

[sepia_steel]

70. LOL

You made me laugh, too.

Don't drive yourself nuts with worry , Andy. We're all here for you. :loveya:

[Amaryllis]

86. Yes, Andy, there absolutely is another side; of this I am sure. I know far

too many people who have had out of body and near death experiences, including my very own sister. She had an auto accident at age fifteen (she is 48 now) and was up above her body, watching them load it into the ambulance, wanting to tell all the freaked out people that she was just fine. Since then, she has had NO fear of death because she knows she is a Soul living in a body, and that she exists independently of that body. I have heard that over and over from people who have had these kinds of experiences! I seem to have run into a lot of these people in my life.

And you can keep the frilly underwear! It's the people you are fighting in your work, who have no integrity or compassion and care only for staying in power, who are at risk for not having such a good time when their karma catches up with them.

I am so glad you posted this and I hope all the responses help you feel better!

[lostnfound]

88. Yes, God gives you a hug &says 'you survived all that ridiculous abuse...'

from those narrow-minded fools..so good for you, you did it.

Andy, not being insanely paranoid, but just curious, is there any chance it's poison?

[Freebird12004]

113. Whoa !

Gay people do not go to hell.

put a peaceful CD on to replay
get comfortable
close your eyes
think of the ocean washing over the sand, again and again

rest and soon you will have some of the answers to your questions - then you can act

but - for now know that you are loved and that you have many friends putting energy into you being OK.

:grouphug:

[Vektor]

89. Oh my God...

I am really sorry to hear that. May I ask how old you are? Also, there is Hep A through E - be sure to test for all.

What have your symptoms been?

[Liberty Belle]

97. lots of alternative therapies for cancer now, too.

I hope it's not that, but if it is, PM me and I'll do some research.
I just interviewed some of the country's top cancer specialists. Didn't ask specifically about livers, but I could certainly followup to find out.

[CoffeeCat]

6. Andy I'm sorry you're feeling so anxious...

...I know it must be so difficult to not know what is wrong.

I wish you the best tomorrow at the hospital. I'm glad it's tomorrow, so you don't have to experience these sleepless nights.

Andy, I will tell you that looking up stuff on the Internet can be very nerve wracking!! I've done that several times when I had certain symptoms, or if I was worried about a health issue. Each time, I researched on the 'net--I came away feeling like I would drop dead tomorrow! There's a lot of scary stuff out there on the 'net with regard to health-related issues. Sometimes, the worst-case scenario stuff pops up when you do searches. You really have to take it all with a truckload of salt.

I'm not saying that your situation is unimportant. It truly is and I'm concerned for you, as I am sure everyone is. However, please realize that diagnosing yourself on the 'net can be really horrifying!!

So hang in there. Please remember there are many thinking about you and sending positive thoughts your way.

:)

[Andy_Stephenson]

7. This is me right now

http://clear.msu.edu:16080/dennie/clipart/cry.gif

[sepia_steel]

72. You are not alone.

:grouphug: We're here in your corner.

[zann725]

79. Awwww. That's how I feel each time I'm sick. And wanting nurtered by Mom

(or someone similar) is what we all want and need when we're sick or afraid. That never changes. Our thoughts are with you.

You've done so much in the EF Investigation, and for that we are eternally grateful. But there's soooo much more to do...so we're NOT letting you go 'anywhere' any time soon!

Hang in there! You'll be fine. You're probably just so depleted from all your efforts the last few months.

Hang in there! You'll be fine.

[Wilms]

8. Just let it out!

Shake, rock, roll, cry, scream, yell, punch, kick...

and give yourself a :hug:

O8)

[SnoopDog]

9. Ah geez Andy...

How do we respond, except to say 'Oh God'... (the only real religious thing I have ever say)

This is heart breaking...

I too thought I was in big health do-do. Not that I am in 100 percent health ok - I fight on.

Andy, fight on...

Edit: there are at least 64,818 DUers on your side...

[MuseRider]

11. I would not

touch the valium. If your liver is doing strange things you don't know how well it might filter it out or if it would not. I am not a doctor, just an old, long retired ICU nurse. Stop reading about liver disease though it sounds too late, it can only make you feel worse. I am so sorry about this Andy. If I was anywhere near you I would come and spend the night and keep you company. Keep posting, there will always be someone here to talk to. Damn, Andy :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Melissa G]

12. Breathe Deep Andy and know that others are holding you

in their hearts with love and best wishes. Focus on calming your breath. Breathe in to a count of eight, hold for a count of 4 then exhale. Keep this up till you calm down and get some rest. I know this is scary for you. I am very sorry it is happening but focus on your breath and drink some calming teas like chamomile or passion flower and valerian. Can't speak for drugs ..not my area.
Hugs and Best wishes,
Melissa

[Ellipsis]

21. yes, FOCUS on your breathing Focus damn it!

concentrate on slowing your heart your freakin yourself out, slow down. slow it down

[Elidor]

13. We're pulling for you, Andy

I've always looked up to you and admired you. I hope things will be okay. Try not to freak. There are so many people sending good thoughts your way. Put it aside for the night and get some rest.

[mopinko]

14. if it helps

i bet you $10 that you will find out nothing tomorrow, the day after that, the day after that, etc. this crap usually takes forever to figure out. by the time they figure it out, you will be over worrying about it. it's never as bad as the worries, anyway.
seriously, there are pretty harmless forms of hepatitis, and you have every chance of recovering completely.
at least you have friends here, andy. if i was there i would tuck you in. (and give you that valium.)

[hiley]

15. Andy

you don't know me but I am a Mom so I will tell you .
Andy, it will be alright it will all work out and think about something that makes you happy.
A memory, a smell, something from your childhood, whatever that is pleasent and made you feel good before. Concentrate on this and slow your breathing down let your whole body relax and breathe.

Have sweet dreams and try to imagine your Mom setting right by your bed assuring you.O8)

remember you are special and many love you !

[Andy_Stephenson]

16. What scares me the most is...

if it is serious...what the hell am I gonna do? I have so much work to finish and I am way too young to die. God I hate this...I have a democracy to help save.

[hiley]

23. hey that is just the way I feel

I have bad health problems and think that sometimes. I can not go because there is way to much to do especially with george in the WH !

[Helga Scow Stern]

25. Andy, don't worry.

You are truly in the hands of a higher power. Whatever is going on with you, it will be okay. There is nothing to fear.

Just keep telling yourself you are in the hands of the angels, god, the ancestors, whatever it is, it is all totally there for you, no matter what happens.

Plus, you have a huge support system, and we will be by you, no matter what. It is too bad no one is with you right now. No one should have to go through these things alone.

Is there anyone where you are who can stick by you? That is essential. A group to take turns? How can we make that happen?

[Andy_Stephenson]

29. Termite is here...

But I am trying to keep a stiff upper lip so he won't worry...But I am worried sick. I have never been so scared in my entire life.

Not even when Bob Urosevitch threatened me. Perhaps he finally made the visit and poisoned me.

[burn the bush]

94. Andy, Listen to me

I don't know if u ever read my post to you previously, but I had a similar problem. I want you to know, that the good news is that the liver heals very very well. Kind of rebuilds like a lizards tail compared to the other organs. That means that even with damage, it can completely recover. Your illness can completely turn back around in an instant too.
It is good that you are going to go get the tests done. A simple blockage could be causing it or if u take any meds for anything, it could have built up a toxic level. My personal opinion is that us redheads may build up a toxic level of stress chemicals, so if they can't figure out what u got, get back with me. Anyway, my point is that even though the liver is so important, it doesn't have to be an end of the world or life changing diagnosis, so just hang on til you get more info.

[madrchsod]

17. hang in there

been thru a couple of these nights with my heart problems so i know how ya feel ..hang in there and "keep your faith alive"

[Tess49]

18. As far as ultrasound is concerned, you could take the valium

I am an ultrasound tech and can tell you that this would not effect the study. The rule is nothing to eat after midnight. You may drink water. By the way, a lot of the time jaundice is caused by gallbladder disease and obstruction by a stone. Easily fixed if that's the case. Good luck tomorrow!

[Andy_Stephenson]

20. But I have had none of the pain associated with

Gall bladder disease. This came on suddenly and without warning.

[Tess49]

28. I see people all the time wtih gallbladders full of rocks,

Some of them huge. Many say they don't have pain, but maybe some GI distress. A lot of people I expect to have stones (based on their symptoms) don't.

[Andy_Stephenson]

32. What about reflux?

is that a symptom? I have had it for years.

[Kadie]

40. Yes.

I just had my gall-bladder removed. I didn't have stones. Have been diagnosed with reflux over 15 years. On and off meds all that time. Had this constant mild pain in my right side. Since none of the test showed stones, nothing was done about it until recently. My GI doctor sent me to a surgeon and sure enough, my gall-bladder was chronically inflamed.

Good luck with your test tomorrow. We will be thinking about you.

[Tess49]

54. A lot of the symptoms of GB disease are vague.

They range from pain, no pain but bloating. nausea, loss of apetite, etc. Just about anything involving the GI tract will get people sent in for a RUQ (right upper quadrant) ultrasound. When we do one of these we look at the liver, gallbladder, pancreas and measure the bile ducts.

[Andy_Stephenson]

56. That is one of the tests scheduled for tomorrow...

But the Doc was perplexed...I have an apetite...no pain...no nausea...no runs...just severe fatigue, gas and jaundice.

[ogradda]

57. no pain is great.

no pain = no cancer probably :)

[sympa]

123. your situation sounds very very similar to mine in 1996

my freshman year of college, i was so excited to be there, i forgot to go to bed so many nights. i had classes all day long and then worked as associate music director (many hours, many days) on an operetta, then hung out all night with the new people i'd meet, talking to them about life and the world and such.
most nights i would get back to my dorm room until 3:30 or 4:00 am and then would get up for class at 7:30. a couple of months pass and by the time i noticed how tired i had become, my skin was sickly greenish-yellow, i had 105 degree temp, was falling asleep at completely inappropriate moments, and couldn''t walk 20 feet without becoming exhausted. i had mono (really badly of course), hepatitis (the dr said i didn't get the hepatitis from anyone, my body was just too tired to work correctly, liver included) and jaundice. i had to have ultrasounds done every 2 weeks for a couple of months, total bedrest for a few weeks, and i learned to tolerate the cabin fever that came with my prescription.

i hope that all the tests and diagnosis and prognosis point to something from which you can recover fully. i'll send good thoughts your way tomorrow andy.

one other thing...
it is understandable that you are so worried and want to find things out sooner than later so you look things up online. as someone who knows where you're at and is a recovering worry wart, keep in mind what the worrying will do for you. there isn't productive or good that will come from focusing on the worst case scenario (such as those that you'll see online). be strong (just as you seem to have been throughout other episodes in your life you've shared with DU) and when those thoughts of worry enter your mind, let them enter, but do not let them fester....let them leave as quickly as they came to you. wait until you know what you're dealing with before you give yourself a death sentence.

hang in there. many good thoughts will be with you tomorrow as you receive some news (hopefully)

take good care andy.

:hug:

[BanzaiBonnie]

93. My husband

had gallstones blocking the bile duct. He had no pain and when he finally did have pain, it was minor. Once the gallstone was removed he realized he had been low-level sick, just not feeling well for at least a year.

Gallstones are definitely a possibility.

Remember, right now worry will not change anything. Whatever is, is... you are loved, you are held in high esteem and we are all singing for your speedy recovery. That's a lot of power on your side.

Accept that whatever will be, will be, and you will feel better. I know lots has been going badly lately for you, but think about whatever is good in your life. What do you have to be thankful for? Concentrate on the good stuff. It sends more good stuff through your body.

[coloradodem2005]

19. I hope you make it through all of this.

I can't imagine how tough things are for you.

[Andy_Stephenson]

22. I really miss my Mom...

I wish she were here to stroke my hair and tell me everything was ok.

[hiley]

26. you are so sweet

don't you think she could be there in spirit ?

[Helga Scow Stern]

27. You have got a lot of Moms right here.

Is your mom alive?

[Andy_Stephenson]

31. She is but she is

2500 miles away. I wish she were 25 feet away. She is 85 now and I am trying to not make her worry either. She has enuf on her mind what with my sisters recent death and her having to put my uncle in a nursing home.

[Helga Scow Stern]

44. You shouldn't be alone.

Is someone going with you tomorrow?

[DUgosh]

48. Andy it's all gonna be Okay, everything is gonna be alright. I promise

Mom's know these things it's what we do. We are sitting by you until you fall asleep and we will be with you tomorrow. And the next day too

[intensitymedia]

24. hang in there andy - courage is grace under pressure n/t

[FreepFryer]

30. You're good with battles. Healing is a battle, on a microscopic level.

Visualize yourself winning. Relax. Believe in your course of treatment.

You'll be fine.

[Andy_Stephenson]

33. I want to run and hide from all this

I really really do.

[ogradda]

37. what time are the tests tomorrow?

what time zone are you?

[Andy_Stephenson]

39. 8:30 Pacific

time...

[ogradda]

o you're by me!

i'm in tacoma where are you going harborview?

[Andy_Stephenson]

43. Swedish

on Capitol Hill.

[ogradda]

46. i've heard good things about them

try not to be too scared i know it's hard but it sounds like your symptoms could be several different things. just hang around here and talk to us and hopefully that will make you feel better. and i'm sorry you can't have your mom:hug:

[satya]

92. The nurses at Swedish are wonderful; it'll be the next best thing to Mom.

:hug:

[hiley]

41. sure you want to hide from

it, if you possibly could that is just a human reaction. It will be alright, I know it is so hard to not know what is making you sick. So confusing and you don't have any control over it.
I am sorry you are having to go thru this, it is overwhelming right now. Time will pass and things will be better, you'll see.
Andy, your Mom is not there with you right this second but you are in her thoughts most likely when she lays down to sleep at night and first thing in the morning. I am trying to say that she is with you in spirit, I feel that this can happen if you just put her there with your mind. Breathe and relax your mind and body, please. You have to rest to feel better at all !

[Indiana_Dem]

49. Andy, I don't know your whole medical history or situation

but I am also a nurse. My mother also had liver problems and she was an alcoholic (I know you're not) for years and years. She was up for a liver transplant because it was so bad. They said she only had 5% of her liver working. It has now been almost 5 years and she is now off of the liver transplant list and her liver is stable (she quit drinking, of course). There is hope.

Every liver patient I've known or taken care of manifests symptoms in different ways. Even your itching can be a symptom of increased toxins in the body because the toxins go into the skin. Try good lotions. Stay away from high protein intake at the moment. Drink lots of fluids like cranberry juice unless you are swelling up anywhere. Doctors will sometimes prescribe gentle laxatives for your bowels to move because the toxins are eliminated that way.

I second the opinion that the Valium may be metabolized through your liver (I'm not sure, I'd have to look it up first) so that may not be a good idea.

As to the cause.....if it's not Hep ABC or HIV then have you been taking any medicines regularly that might be metabolized through your liver? Even excess or prolonged intake of Tylenol can cause damage to your liver. You could also have gallstones blocking the drainage from your liver into your bile ducts. This is not uncommon and is a physical blockage problem that can be fixed.

Like I said, if my mom got through it, then you can as well.

Your liver regenerates itself, too, after the initial cause of the problem is removed. Either my mom has been functioning with a %5 functioning liver for 5 years or it has regenerated a bit.

My thoughts and prayers are with you. I hope you see the hope in what I'm saying.

[Andy_Stephenson]

52. I don't take any meds

even when I get a bad headache...medicine is the last thing I try. Usually a hot towel wrapped around my head and a dark quiet place does the trick.

I have been eating mostly veggies for the last week...carrots...boiled beets...greens of all sorts...beans and rice. Been drinking plenty of water with fresh squeezed lemon juice. Been taking milk thistle, tumeric, artichoke leaf and dandelion root extracts. All supposed to cleans and support the liver..

[Indiana_Dem]

62. The beans might have some protein that you don't want.

They told my mom to focus on carbohydrates that can be easily turned into sugar for energy rather than proteins. That was why she chose to drink cranberry juice all the time.

The rest of what you're doing looks good to me.

[punpirate]

35. Try to relax, first...

... and take some comfort in the fact that not all jaundice is directly related to liver disease. Severe itching is often a symptom of obstructive jaundice, where bile salts (stones) partially obstruct the bile duct. Less frequently, it can also be a symptom of pancreatitis.

If you've been overly tired of late, it may also be a symptom of hemolytic anemia.

Try some cold compresses to reduce the itching where it's worst--it's caused by the increase in blood salts in the capillaries, and cooling the skin may reduce blood flow a bit.

Hope you get some rest and some good news tomorrow.

[stillcool]

36. Whenever I get really scared.....

I first say 10 hail mary's in rapid fire fashion...lapsed Catholic. Then all of my AA sayings kick in...Fear knocked and faith answered. You are exactly where you are supposed to be, and everything in your past led you to where you are. You would not be who you are if one single thing were changed. There is no good or bad there just IS. When one door closes another one opens, but its hell in the hallways. Let it go. Live in the moment. Miracles are changes in perception, and if you look at something with the slightest of degree of difference the entire picture changes. Remember to breathe...in...and out...big breaths...
hope this helps...there's also a story about Daniel and the Lions Den, where he looks out the barred windows to the light and has no fear. Don't look at the lion Andy, look to the light.

[candle_bright]

38. The thing about your skin crawling

There was an article posted here today or yesterday about this "bug" or whatever it was going around several states. I'll try to find it if that might be of help to you.

(I don't know your history, so if this seems irrelevant I apologize.)

[noamnety]

47. i've been through some health scares

and I admit, it was all I could think about. There's nothing worse than having to go back for a cancer screening. But here I am, a few minor outpatient stitches later, nothing wrong with me at all. It was a whole lotta worry over nothing for me.

Tomorrow is a good day, because they will be one step closer to finding out what's wrong, so you can fix it. Instead of being scared of what they will find, try to look forward to it in that light.

[Bill Bored]

51. Jeez Andy!

I was just going to send you a few bucks and kick the latest thread on Ensign's bill and then I read this!

Try to calm down. Unless you're in pain, it is probably not serious at this point. I wish I had time to do some med research. It's a hobby of mine, but with all this election fraud crap, it's hard to keep up! Seriously!

Have you taken any large doses of Niacin for any reason, such as cholesterol reduction? That can give you the red flush and the tingling and also elevate your liver enzymes, but it's usually harmless.

Also, think about allergies to foods or any other substances such as yeast that you might want to avoid.

Have you been eating?

Please let us know how it goes tomorrow! You have a lot of friends here!

[Andy_Stephenson]

55. No pain...no Niacin...I am Jaundiced.

I look like a red headed banana...even my feet are juandiced now...I have been eating a veggie diet staying away from meat, fats and sweets.

But I am major tired and can only last at max 4 hours before needing sleep.

And my urine looks like coca cola.

I also smell bad.

[Helga Scow Stern]

59. You are thinking clearly.

When something is really wrong with the liver isn't the brain really effected?

[Bill Bored]

60. Oh sorry, I missed the banana part.

Jaundiced=yellow of course.

Uh, do you have red hair normally or is this a recent development too?

The ultrasounds are painless. Do you know which liver enzymes are elevated? How's your bilirubin? That's the gallbladder one, if elevated.

My only other non-professional advice is to make sure you see a GI/Liver specialist (Heptologist) at some point, esp. if the usual docs seem stumped.

Are the whites of your eyes yellow too? That's usually the first sign of jaundice.

The liver has a remarkable ability to recover Andy. Up to 90% can be gone and come back. I hope they get to the bottom of this soon.

And don't take any Tylenol; it's toxic to the liver!

[Andy_Stephenson]

63. Yes I am a redhead

Yes whites of eyes are yellow. And it clashes with my hair and wardrobe.

Do you know which liver enzymes are elevated? No but it was 489 which everone it was.

[Bill Bored]

75. I guess blonds really do have more fun!

If you feel up to it, look up gallbladder disease and see if it can be painless. Otherwise, just wait until tomorrow. But if you do have pain, go to the ER!

[fooj]

64. I'm sending you all of my positive vibes, Andy. I'm so sorry you

are dealing with such a creepy, frightening illness. My nona used to tell me that God didn't give us anything we couldn't handle...as much as I loved her when she'd say it I'd get so irritated. I don't know WHY this has happened to you. It sucks. It sucks to be afraid. Fuck...I wish there was something I could say to make it better! We are praying for you and PLEASE know that tomorrow YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! We will all be there with you. You'll feel all of our love in the room. I promise. Don't forget- when you are up to it and out this way (California) I owe you enchiladas!!! Keep the faith! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo's, fooj

[Andy_Stephenson]

67. You know I am gonna take you up on the

Enchiladas. I love enchiladas...and I am so hungry for some. mmmmmmmm

[hootinholler]

58. Sadly, all I can offer is my friendship and support.

Know that you are stronger than you think you are.

Mother Earth will hold you and Father Sky will watch over you.

Peace my friend.

-Hoot

[EC]

61. We'll take care of George, you just relax, lay back and go to sleep

tomorrow will be okay...concentrate on yourself...

Sometimes when I can't sleep, I make up a story in my head, with me as the main character, something I've always wished for, and I plot how it changes everything and makes me feel whole, eventually it turns into a dream, because I've fallen to sleep...

[shraby]

68. I'm sorry Andy, I know how you feel.

I can tell you this, that 90% of the time, everything turns out okay, it just scares you to death thinking about it.
For the itching, I don't know if it will help, but it helps the itching of something like chicken pox...put a bunch of baking soda in a cool bath and soak in it.
If it's nerves, it probably won't help though.
I wish you the best of luck. Report back as soon as you know.

[lavenderdiva]

65. Dear Sweet Andy...

I don't know you, but I hear the fear and concern in your voice... I hope you don't think I am getting too personal, and I don't know your belief system, but I want to extend a comforting hand and gentle thoughts your way. There have been many nights when I have laid awake worrying about many, many serious things going on in my life, and the only thing (other than lots of hugs that I am sending your way!) is reading some scriptures.

Deuteronomy 1:6,9 "Be strong and courageous, do not be afraid or tremble at them (at it-your illness, in your case, Andy) for the Lord your God is the one who goes with you. He will not fail you or forsake you..... And the Lord is the one who goes ahead of you; He will be with you. He will not fail you or forsake you. Do not fear, or be dismayed."

You have said you cannot sleep; maybe these verses will help give you some calm in your situation, and peace about tonight:

Psalm 3:3-5 "But Thou, O Lord, art a shield about me, My glory, and the One who lifts my head. I was crying to the Lord with my voice, and He answered me from His holy mountain. I lay down and slept; I awoke for the Lord sustains me.

Psalm 4:3-5, 8 "...The Lord hears when I call to Him. Tremble, and do not sin; meditate in your heart upon your bed, and be still.... trust in the Lord. ....In peace I will both lie down and sleep, for Thou alone, O Lord, dost make me to dwell in safety."

Andy, may I say a prayer for you? Since I am not there with you, please know that as you read this, I will also be praying for you. Lord, please be with Andy tonight. He is feeling awfully alone and needs to feel the comfort of Your loving embrace. Please remind him of all those of us here who are sending him love and comfort. Please reassure him of Your perfect love for him. Let him know that you are holding him close, and know all his fears before he can even speak them. Lord we know that you count each of our tears and keep them all in a bottle. Remind Andy that you have a plan for his life, and that all your plans for us are for our ultimate good. You will never leave us or forsake us. Please soothe Andy's discomfort, and heal his body. Father please send angels to surround Andy and to protect him. He is so anxious about his condition and the tests tomorrow and speaking with his Doctor. Ease his mind and take away his fears. I pray for healing for Andy, throughout his entire body. Please guide his Doctors and their staff and help them determine the cause of his condition quickly, to speed his recovery. Father, I ask that you stand with Andy tomorrow as he goes to his appointments, and bring to his mind the questions he needs to ask his Doctors, and help him to remember their discussions, so he will know what to do. Right now though Lord, please hold Andy close to you. Please give him supernatural hugs, and comfort and reassure him of Your presence. Give him a deliberate peace about his situation, and soothe his spirit. I ask that you give him a complete night's sleep, and that he wake feeling rested and uplifted. Give him a clearness of thought tomorrow, and a certainty that you are walking with him all day tomorrow. Guide his steps and show him how much You love him. I ask all these things in Jesus' name, Amen.

I hope that gives you some comfort, Andy. Please know that I will be praying for you tonight and tomorrow. Again, I hope I haven't offended you by sharing these things with you. My only aim was to help you and soothe your fears. Please let me know how it goes for you tomorrow... Sweet dreams and BIG hugs!

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

[Andy_Stephenson]

69. Thank you so mych for the prayer.

I was raised Lutheran...sorta not a lutheran anymore...But I I do know prayer cannot hurt.

Thanks again

[Helga Scow Stern]

66. You are going to be okay.

You will get through this.

[Andy_Stephenson]

71. I hope so...

I really really do. I have a lot of work to finish, and I wont be able to if I am sick. Damnit...I have to be ok!!!

[demodonkey]

73. You ARE going to be OK Andy!

I know it's hard to do but please try not to think of the worst. Most things that are really bad don't come on so suddenly as this did to you. So that could be one very good sign in your favor. Think about that.

And you are right. You have a few things you need to do right now, like saving Democracy. You're not going anywhere.

What time are your tests tomorrow?

[Andy_Stephenson]

74. 8:30 AM

Seattle Time.

[demodonkey]

77. OK everybody on DU, NOW through 8:30 AM Pacific we need to send...

lots of GOOD THOUGHTS, psychic energy, and prayers (BY those of us who believe that way) to ANDY!! Aim 'em at Seattle folks! Get'em going NOW!

:-)

Edited to make sense...

[understandinglife]

76. Andy, we all care. As much as it's possible, virtually, we are all there..

...with you.

You have so many fine persons who care very much about you. Let that bring you some comfort.

Peace.

[Andy_Stephenson]

78. OK everyone...I am gonna go lay down and go to a happy place

kinda like Sam Lowry at the end of Brazil.

I will try to relax and breathe deeply...and think of good things. vizualize wellness...and no itch! I have clawed myself raw in some spots and need to stop scratching!?

Good night everyone...Thanks for being here for me...for letting me be a "girlie man" tonight :eyes:

I don't know how I would get through this without you guys, gals and assorted other higher beings.

You guys really do humble me. I appreciate you all so very much!

Andy
:loveya:

[demodonkey]

82. WE LOVE YOU, and we will always be here for you!

:hug:

[Andy_Stephenson]

85. Here back at ya

:loveya:

[lavenderdiva]

84. Goodnight Andy! Glad to see you are going to bed now...

Sweet Dreams....

ps. Please post tomorrow to let us know how your Doctor's visit went.

[Helga Scow Stern]

87. We are holding you through the night and into the next day until

you are all better.

Please call if you need to talk or if there is anything we can do for you.

I know you are going to be fine.

[loudsue]

80. Hang in there Andy!! If you have any Castor Oil,

rub it all around your liver area....your whole midsection, in fact, and wrap yourself in flannel (a t-shirt will do if flannel isn't available).

Castor oil is a great anti-inflammatory, and it draws out toxins. Those old country folk knew a lot about what works...and this is one thing that works well. It might even help stop some of the itching.

Sending you a ((((((BIG HUG)))))), and please ask the doctor tomorrow if there isn't SOMETHING you can take to help you relax and get some sleep.

Please let us know tomorrow what the doctor says! We're all worried about you!!

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

[coffeenap]

81. We are with you too

You have inspired so many to take on the job of saving the country--we'll work on that, you work on you. You are a dear person, a treasure. Daniel and I send what spiritual energy we have your way--as always. Because of you, my kid has defined his goals. Because he sees that one person can get in there and do something real he will not be stopped. (Of course, his emails to the president of Honduras might not be such a good idea...)Even Glenne is leading her fifth grade toward political enlightenment! Be calm, be grateful for the wonderful people in your life and know we are all with you. I am so sorry for your suffering and at the same time, so grateful for your existence. m.

Wait, did i just refer to myself as wonderful? I didn't mean it. LOL

[Andy_Stephenson]

83. You are Wonderful

and so is your amazing son! I truly hold you both near and dear to my heart.

:loveya:

[LeahD]

90. In the Dark of the Night,

the waiting is the worst. So many of your DU friends are holding you in their loving arms tonight and have given you some good ideas to calm your anxiety. In addition to prayer and regulating your breathing, I've found that music is a wonderful distraction. Listening to the artists you love, or singing some of your favorite songs. Amazingly, singing the songs you liked as a young child can be very comforting. Or if you've committed poems to memory, reciting them can help...must be the rhythm, or the repetition. Visualization is another great tool. Visualize yourself in your personal version of paradise, doing what you love.

I hope that tomorrow will bring you answers, and they can do something for your discomfort...itching is dreadful. Take care and pleasant dreams. We're with you, Andy.

[renate]

91. from personal experience

I am now a big believer in asking people to either pray for you or hold you in their thoughts... and look at how many people are thinking about you tonight!
Also, vividly imagine a scenario in which your doctor comes into the exam room, with a big smile, holding your chart, and saying "Great news! It's just ...." (pick whichever noncritical condition you'd like to have--gallstones would be my own choice). Play that scene in your head every time you get anxious. Really get into the details--what are you wearing, what is he wearing, is the room warm or chilly, what does it smell like... make it absolutely real in your mind, and plan it all out just the way you want it to be. Then all you have to do is wait for this scene to manifest. Believe in it, because this really works.

[housewolf]

95. Andy, even while you are sleeping,

Angels are watching over you, holding you in their arms and comforting you with their warmth, blessing you with their prayers.

All across the nation people are holding you in their love, sending paryers and positive thoughts for you.

You are loved and supported beyond your wildest imagination.

Somewhere, deep inside yourself, some part of you knows that no matter what happens, you are okay. You will be okay. Everything is all right, there is a place of peace within you where everything is in perfect order, where you can find the peace and the strength you need to deal with whatever is presented to you. I know and honor that place in you. Find it, and you can trust it.

Sleep well, dear child, the angels are with you tonight.

[Liberty Belle]

96. Natural remedies for liver problems:

Milk thistle and SAM-e. Ask about them in the health food stores, provided your doctor has no objection. SAM-e has had some solid clinicals and been found to reverse liver damage. It's amazing how many medical doctors are not aware that liver damage is reversible in many cases.

Please take care, and I hope that things will be okay.

I'm an editor of a nutrition trade journal, not a doctor. I don't know about the valium. Try some deep breathing exercises and visualization tehcniques--imagine yourself on a South Seas island someplace, basking in the sun, etc.

[Quakerfriend]

99. Yes, LB those would be very good

Andy, I also feel that L-Methionine (TWIN LABS) 500mg 3x day would help you enormously.

I was Chief of Nutritional Research at UPenn for many years until I found out that I had widely disseminated cancer. My liver was in very bad shape as well. It was at this time that I visited a ND and he told me to take this. I was reluctant, at first, as there was nothing in the medical literature to support his claims. However, I did comply as it was not know to have any side effects.

I was stunned to discover after taking the above for only 3 weeks that my liver was completely restored to normal.That was over 7 years ago!

I have since suggested L-Methionine to others (with Hep A and C) and they too have had their liver enzymes return to normal, sometimes after having been high for years!! In each of those cases, the effect occurred in less than a month.

Also, it may take the Docs some time to come up with a diagnosis given that they have already ruled out all of the above. Please, know that we are all praying for you!!

:grouphug:

[Liberty Belle]

116. I'm glad you recovered. That's quite a story.

The more I learn about "alternative" medicine, the more I realize how much Western medical doctors really don't know. Interestingly, WHO (World Health Organisation) has called for more traditional medical systems to be used worldwide, since Western medicine is now known to be expensive and cause as many problems as it solves, in many cases.

[greatauntoftriplets]

98. Andy, the best of luck today....

Your mother is there with you in spirit. If she'd had her way...she'd be there now.

:loveya:

[Paradise]

100. Hey Andy!

Remember, we're with ya! Get back to us when you get home, today. Let us know how it went.
Lots of love out here for you. :grouphug: :hug:

[MelissaB]

101. You are in my thoughts today, Andy!

:grouphug:

[AtLiberty]

102. Please stop self-diagnosing, Andy...

It only makes it worse. Been there, done that.

Some how, some way, try to settle your thoughts. The doctors and nurses will take excellent care of you.

[woodsprite]

103. Andy, I just added you to our prayer chain through our church

Don't worry, it's a very liberal Presby. church - not fundie in the least. :) It means that you have 32 people praying for you from Delaware - all praying for your strength, peace of mind, and healing. I hope that thought comforts you some. Add that to all these DUer's and you should have some pretty powerful juju on your side.

Also, I *KNOW* prayer works when you open your heart. I think opening yourself up and throwing yourself into the belief is the key. God doesn't care what your background is, just that you're open to belief. I have always truly trusted that the spark that makes us who we are, never ever dies. I felt this way when growing up, before finding a church -- my whole life. I hope this helps to comfort you and ease your worries some.

[emcguffie]

104. About that itching, calm down!

Have you read about the weird skin disease that has hit Florida and California? It feels like bugs crawling all over your body, and makes these little sores. It is a bug of some kind.

Take the valium, and get some sleep. It won't hurt. It'll probably help. Just don't start taking them all day long every day, that's when there's trouble....

Have they told you which hepatitis it is?

[NationalEnquirer]

105. Butch up pal! :)

But seriously, I have been through a few health scares like you are going through right now.
The waiting is the worst part, and let me tell you this, absolutely the WORST thing you can do, even though I do it all the time, is to go on the internet and read about all the possible things it could be.
It can drive you insane.
Think seriously about trying Xanax or something, hey, Jeb's daughter can't be wrong!
The worrying and all the chemical reactions it causes is NOT good for you.
So there is a reason to try to be calm and stuff.
Buddy, I wish we could all be there with you and for you as you go through this.
Take care.

[grace0418]

106. You're in my thoughts Andy

Positive healing vibes.

[Horse with no Name]

107. Hugs and Prayers

The unknown is always more fearful than the known.
There are several self-limiting diseases/illnesses that it could be.
Could be Lyme Disease, mononucleosis, could be drug reaction from Tylenol or any other over-the-counter medication. Could be a gallstone blocking a duct.
Without any previous symptoms...we'll pray for something very benign and send good thoughts.
I am a nurse and if you need any reassurances...pm me and I'll be glad to talk to you and help you find the resources to put your fears to rest.
Hugsss and try to think positive and put your worries away at least for now.

:grouphug:

[malestripper4u]

108. From the other side---kinda

Andy,
I've read a lot of posts on DU over the last little bit. Posting this will probably get me banned. If so I guess that's ok. After all, I hadn't ever decided to post anything till I read this. I figured why bother, since I would probably only get banned anyway.

I find that truth is usually somewhere away from where people scream the loudest, so I probably don't fit in here any better than I would fit with the freepers. Don't know what that means.

Anyway, Just wanted to register, login, and tell you that we're pulling for you. Whatever it is. I might not always agree with everything that you've posted in the past, but I've enjoyed your posts and your point of view. Hang in there, if you need anything just drop a line.

MS

[flyarm]

109. ahhhh andy......

everytime we face something medically its terrifiying...

a few years ago i started getting black splotches all over my body..the doctor right away went nuts and said it was my liver...i was an actress ..so starving oneself was the norm...the dr sent me to the library and had me check out books on the liver...

well the starving stopped, and now i am a sweet old lady with a healed up liver...but the liver is the most forgiving organ we have...

its great that you are seeing the doctors and that you don't ignor what they tell you...this may not be all that reassuring but by gods devine intervention and the doctors..hopefully they will get to the bottom of it and get it corrected..

you have every reason to be nervous...but don't let that take over...or you won't be able to help yourself...
you have to keep as clear a mind as possible..to get better..nerves only make the situations worse...
stress is harmful...do some deep breathing ..

i love you sweetie...and i hate to see you under such duress...

hugs to you.. and a moms love to you...

wish i could hug you and make the wait a little easier.

from the "i can't help myself from being a mom" ..fly

[WarNoMore]

110. Andy, anxiously awaiting for your results.

I certainly hope you got some sleep last night.
The not knowing is the worst, I know you can handle whatever comes your way.
I had to chuckle about your work left to do; when I was undergoing cancer treatment in 2002, my kids thought I was holding back on my prognosis. I told them no way in hell was I going anywhwere before I voted that sum'bitch out of office.

[DARE to HOPE]

111. Lutheran pastor's wife praying for you, too, child...

God give you His Peace.

Good night.

[Paradise]

112. Been thinking of you all day!

Sooo, how are you doing? Let us know. :grouphug: :hug:

[bleever]

114. Sending you white light to dissolve all difficulties and obstructions.

There's a lot of love here for you, and it's working for you even when you're not feeling it.

Peace, and health.

:)

[Freebird12004]

124. "Lightwork" always helps

:hug:

[Carolab]

115. Morgellons?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1222988

[GetTheRightVote]

117. I hope you are doing all right Andy & that you get good news

:grouphug:

[HR_Pufnstuf]

118. Relax, stay rested and hydrated.

Besta luck.

Get well soon.

[BigBearJohn]

119. You are in my prayers, Andy. Everything will be ok.

[FreedomAngel82]

120. I'm so sorry

I hope you'll be okay! :hug:

[Joe Chi Minh]

121. The thing to bear in mind

Andy, is that there has never been anyone on the face of the earth who God loves more than you. That's the way he is. If nobody else existed, he'd have suffered and died for a single one of his children. He has no favourites, since he loves each one of us infinitely. "We may turn away from him, but he cannot turn away from us, since he cannot turn away from his own self". We have him within us as long has we have that spark of love, which puts others before ourselves as you evidently do.

[kitkat65]

122. Thought you could use a giggle

We love you Aaaaaaandy
Oh, yes, we doooooooo
When you are yeeeelloooow
It makes us bluuuuuue
We love you Aaaaaaandy
Oh, yes, we doooooooo
You're a hero at the DeeeeUuuuuu

Everybody sing!

A good laugh and some silliness always makes ME feel better. Just remember you have a of people pulling for you.

:pals:

[Name removed]

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[Stephanie]

126. FREEPER BEGONE!

Tombstone countdown

ONE

[greatauntoftriplets]

127. The mods were quick on that one....

I didn't even get time to alert because I checked the profile first.

[ourbluenation]

128. Just saw this thread for the first time

I have no idea who you are but I hope it turned out okay - any update you can give us Andy?

PS) I just had my diseased gall bladder removed and I FEEL GREAT - amazing I lived so long with the stupid thing.

[greatauntoftriplets]

129. I'm a good friend of Andy's....

He is having the endoscopic procedure that he linked above right now and expects to spend the night in the hospital. I will talk with his partner later and start a thread.