LawSuit to e-Vict Secret Vote Counting & Hasten Death of DRE's

[SpaceBuddy008]

DemocracyRescue-LawSuit to e-Vict CorPirate TresPassers, Secret Vote
Counting & Hasten Death of DRE's

When it comes to something as fundamental as democracy, the
government lacks the power, through contract, to cede that power of
vote counting in a democracy to a multinational corporation or to
any individual to operate in secret, because vote counting is a
public democratic right. It is a public right for which the
government has literally never been given the power to give away.
The government, plainly and simply, combined with all of the
world's corporations, UTTERLY LACK THE POWER to privatize our
votes. We ougt not legitimize that privatization in any way by
assuming it has any validity, because it is void ab initio (from
the beginning).

Most importantly, (to put it plainly but crudely) WE DON'T NEED TO
PROVE SHIT, THE VOTING MACHINE COMPANIES MUST SIMPLY GET THE HELL
OUT of our democracy. Period.

UNPRECENDENTED in American history for government to claim, assume
Inalienable rights to rig, run, ruin and OWN YOUR LIFE! and help
dig your grave ,how are you and WE going to rescue our country and
humanity from this dangerous abyss? Lets get real and ON THE BALL,
pick it up a notch, for..., We have lost the ability to replace our
government by the ballot box, our creation claims they don't need
The people's consent anymore.We must talk and act on this affront
DAILY.
What happened to the AmeriCaN Dream? SORRY-thats classified. Secret
Vote Counting Delays OUR Dreams.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310875.shtml
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Steal Our Vote STEAL OUR Future

What is democracy? What is tyranny?

Abraham Lincoln said democracy is government of the people, by the
people, for the people.

History teaches us that whoever conducts an election and counts the
votes can also control the outcome. Avoiding fraud requires an open
process. If all parties participate and observe, we have the
greatest possibility that our election outcomes will express the
will of the people.

Our November election is suspect precisely because 25-30 percent of
the voters used unverifiable electronic systems, and because many
states and counties prevented citizens from observing the counting
of ballots, handling of tally sheets, etc. Every American is being
forced to "trust" that unobserved and invisible procedures --
electronic and otherwise -- were accurate.

Widespread charges of fraud are circulating on the internet. Are
the charges "bogus?" Are the people behind these charges
"conspiracy theorists?"

In fact such suspicions are reasonable, given the intentional use
of unverifiable computerized election systems even after the
problems with them were publicized. The suspicions are realistic,
given the widespread secrecy surrounding election operations in
many counties and states. Secrecy suggests that something is being
hidden. In many counties, tally sheets were not required to be
posted in the precinct at the close of voting, ballots and precinct
tally sheets were not guarded under multipartisan observation after
the close of the election day, and counties have refused to comply
with FOIL requests in an open and honest forthcoming manner.

When institutions hide what they do, indeed often fraud, stealing,
etc. is taking place. Public servants should not only be honest,
they must avoid the appearance of dishonesty. This idea is not new.

There is no evidence to support or refute charges of fraud, or
resolve current suspicions about the November election. This in and
of itself weakens our democracy and undermines the legitimacy of
the election. A democratic government has only as much legitimacy
as the openness and verifiability of its elections.

Elections are not a court of law where a defendant is innocent
until proven guilty. Elections deal with a broader issue, the
legitimacy and credibility of representative democratic government.
Secrecy in the procedures of elections, especially vote counting,
is a constant when a system of tyranny poses as democracy by
holding sham elections.

Election directors and Secretaries of State have responded to
warnings about unverifiable computerized voting by saying "I will
comply with legal requirements." This reduces a democracy argument
(democracy requires observability and verifiability) to a legal
argument (the law doesn't require openness or verifiability).

William Penn, founder of Pennsylvania, said (in 1682) that if the
people are good, the government will be good. If the people are
bad, no form of government will save them from their own evil. He
meant, that if those in power make laws that are just (tend toward
equal opportunity, equal protection, due process, and openness),
the people will thrive. If those in power make laws that are
unjust, they can use the same governmental structures and rituals,
such as elections, to support tyranny.

http://www.wheresthepaper.org/
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Who? would rise to defend SecretVote Counting?

Natural Law
Birthights
Inalienable Rights

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I believe the people will do more to promote Peace than governments,
and one of these days better get OUT OF THE WAY and let them have
IT- many days AGO by Ike Eisenhower

There is one thing more powerful than all the armies in the world...,
and that is An Idea whose Time has Come-annie mouse



We are filing a serendipitous void by a failing, corrupt and
compromised media and fighting for lead of a country against those
who avoid responsibility by not thinking for themselves and absolve
their humanity by worshipping aristocracy, father-figures AND FALSE
IDOLS, the sin most cautioned against.
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2/5/05: UPDATE...America's Illegitimate Election 2004
Never forget what happened on November 2nd, 2004... Here's a video to help...

We've updated the short video compiled by a few Velvet
Revolutionaries from Democratic Underground.

It is our hope that this video may serve as the definitive record
of what happened in American during the 2004 Presidential Election.
It documents -- in a few short minutes -- how your American right
to a free, fair and transparent electoral system has been taken
from you by the cynical and un-democratic powers-that-be.

This sort of thing should never happen in the world's most
important democracy. And yet -- again in 2004 -- it did. Enough is
enough.

It's time for the people to take both our country and our democracy
back. If you still have any questions about that, please take a
look at this video:

http://www.velvetrevolution.us/#020505

Americans have died for the Right to Vote. November 2nd, 2004 will
serve as a continuing reminder that we still have a long way to go
in this country before every American has that right.


Please watch the video...And then pass this link...
http://www.VelvetRevolution.us#020505
...to everyone you know so they can remember (or learn) as well!

The mainstream media will not be doing it. Democracy in America is
now up to you!

Government OWNS You?

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FEAR=False Evidence Appearing Real

Fear is a test to FIND OUT if Your Mission on EArth is Finished...
....if your ALIVE !...,IT Isn't

Give a HOOT?
ROOT?
for those who LOOT,POLLUTE and SHOOT
I WILL NOT BE MOOT
shoot=moot
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SING IT ! ExtremeFundamentalistRegime
!!!!!!!!!ExtremeFundamentalistRegime
!!!!!!!!!ExtremeFundamentalistRegime

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WARNING:
It should be clear that more is at stake than the presidency
itself. Use of computerized vote counting
will only increase, as mandated by law. Vote counting is the
bedrock protocol of a democracy and
meaningful reform of a broken counting system is dependent on an
expression of public will ultimately
exercised at the ballot box and fairly, accurately, and honestly
tabulated. If the system has broken down
and is no longer counting accurately and honestly, there is no
effective democratic mechanism to bring
pressure upon a governing majority to reform a vote counting status
quo which is seen to work in its favor.
This is, as may be seen, a potentially crippling catch-22 for a democracy.

*footnotes from statistical proof on examination of vote count data
http://www.spiral-stairs.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/30/...
explanation of the ease of hackability at end of this post.


we are called to RISE to the Rescue and challenge of

http://www.thebattleforamerica.com watch!

homepage: http://www.solarbus.org/election/index.shtml
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Full report with fantastic paper ballots arguments

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310875.shtml

county by county The consent of The People MUST be Restored & Democracy RESCUED

Not In Our Name will we allow the Earth to remain a bad neighborhood and turned into a global slave plantation

cease the stranglehold on Illumination

[s-cubed]

1. kick

[corbett]

2. Bring The Noise!

LOVE IT!

[SpaceBuddy008]

3. UPdated intro with "UNofficial Web-O-Smiles" Cryptic Code

LawSuit to e-Vict Secret Vote Counting & Hasten Death of DRE'$

DemocracyRE'scue - LawSuit to e-Vict Corp.TresPassers, Secret Vote
Counting & Hasten Death of DRE'$ - CounTy, by CounTy by financiaLLy-$trapped COUNTy, to $ave moNeY, proTecT the Future and purrCHASE FREEd-ohmm! The man who knows what Freedom means will find a way to be FREE. e-Voting = e -VictSHUN.

When it comes to something as fundamental as democracy, the
government lacks the power, through contract, to cede that power of
vote counting in a democracy to a multinational corporation or to
any individual to operate in secret, because vote counting is a
Public democratic Right. It is a Public Right for which the
government has literally never been GIVEN the power to give away.
The government, Plainly and Simply, combined with ALL of the
world's corporations, UTTERLY LACK THE POWER to Privatize Our
Votes. We ought not legitimize that privatization in ANY way by
assuming it has any validity, because it is Void Ab Initio (from
the beginning).

Most importantly, (to put it plainly but crudely) WE DON'T NEED TO
PROVE SHIT, THE VOTING MACHINE COMPANIES MUST SIMPLY GET THE HELL
OUT of our democracy. Period.

UNPRECENDENTED in American history for government to claim, assume THE
Inalienable rights to rig, run, ruin and OWN YOUR LIFE! and help
dig your grave , how are you and WE going to rescue our country and
humanity from this dangerous abyss? Lets get real and ON THE BALL,
pick it up a notch, for..., We have lost the ability to replace our
government by the ballot box, (our creation) claims they don't need
The people's consent anymore. We must talk and act on this affront
DAILY. Lawyers have few higher callings than bringing
the people together to discuss democracy.

What happened to the AmeriCaN Dream? SORRY-thats classified. ReVeal NOT CONceal, People~over~Profit$, The Right OR Civil RIGHTS? DRE'$ = Democracy Reduction EnTiTies.
Secret
Vote Counting Delays OUR Dreams.

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"The selfish spirit of commerce knows no country, and feels no
passion or principle but that of gain." --Thomas Jefferson to
Larkin Smith, 1809.

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people. Enable them
to see that it is their interest to preserve peace and order, and
they will preserve them. And it requires no very high degree of
education to convince them of this. They are the only sure
reliance for the preservation of our liberty." --Thomas Jefferson
to James Madison, 1787.


Putsch OUT / Paper IN

[davidgmills]

4. Governments do have the right to contract with business --

They do it all the time.

But it is an interesting philosophical question as to whether something as fundamental as voting should be subject to contract with private companies.

If the government has limits on its power to contract, you would think that this would be at the top of the list.

[Chi]

5. It appears the twelfth amendment might just say that....

"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;"

If one were to substitute 'the voters' for 'they' (I believe they are using it that way), you could make the argument only voters of that state, should be counting the votes.

Hey...but WTF do I know, heh. 8)

[SpaceBuddy008]

6. Putsch OUT / Paper IN

Hastening the Death of DRE'$ - CounTy, by CounTy by financiaLLy-$trapped COUNTy

Paul Lehto radio interview with Mike McCormick KEXP archived mp3


http://www.radio4all.net/index.php?op=program-info&prog...

Going to listen as soon as it's finished downloading!

WE CHOOSE !-in the nOOze

Monday, February 07, 2005
A vote for "fusion tyranny"
I had rather hoped that when I resumed blogging, I would be able to speak about something other than vote fraud. But the news keeps piling up...

Snohomish County: This new analysis has implications that go far beyond the region under scrutiny. The authors are Paul R. Leto, an attorney who served on the Board of Governors of his state's Bar Association, and Jeffrey Hoffman, Ph.D., a physicist. Neither writer is a statistician (a fact which rightists will no doubt seize upon), although Hoffman seems to have a good grasp of that discipline and they had input from a professional mathematician.

Their argument speaks for itself. Analysis of voting pattern show that Sequoia touch-screen votes heavily favored one party (guess which) while optical scan votes favored the other; no other variable seems to account for the discrepancy.

Sequoia's managers, you will recall, have been accused (and in one case, convicted) of bribery of public officials.

The Leto/Hoffman paper makes a number of other pertinent points. I'll note but four:

1. Machines which recently had their CPUs "repaired" (how the devil do you repair a CPU?) developed a mysterious tendency to spew out Republican votes. (Note: The authors may have confused the terms "CPU" and "motherboard" in a section of their paper.)

2. Touch screen voting was supposed to help eradicate undervoting, yet undervoting remained four times the national average in minority districts of New Mexico using the technology.

3. The low rate of undervoting in Snohomish County may be connected to the numerous reports of "pre-selections" for Bush. (And that, in turn, may be connected to point 1, above.)

4. Sequoia requires -- for no reason I can discern -- that its machines have their power cords daisy chained. Is it possible to transmit data through the power line? In a word: Yes. Sequoia's enigmatic insistence on plugging the machines into the juice in a certain way may indicate the presence of a hidden network.

That last point has boggling possibilities. Even if we make sure that no election machine contains a modem, how can we be sure that outsiders aren't "talking" to the computers using this covert route? If the devices are plugged in, manipulators can plug in to their data.

Even if the machine, as originally designed, does not contain internal devices capable of transmitting and receiving data via the power cord, such a device can be easily installed during "repairs."

Shelley: People are starting to catch on to the possibility that California Secretary of State Kevin Shelley was railroaded out of office because of his staunch opposition to Diebold and touch screen voting. (If you haven't read the post below, you may want to do so now.)

We now have a sample letter of protest, which contains a defense of Shelley. It's a little too long-winded (not that I'm in a position to carp about such a thing!), but it makes some excellent points.

The "sexual harassment" charge against Shelley, mysteriously unspecified in most news accounts, apparently amounts to little. He lost his temper at an employee and used foul language. Not an advisable action, of course -- but such an outburst hardly justifies an attempt by the media to frame the poor fellow as a sex-crazed fiend.

And if that charge turns out to be mere hype, we have every reason to suspect that the other charges have been blown out of proportion.

(Can I be accused of sexual harassment because I used the word "blown" in the previous sentence?)

The battle over the new California Secretary of State has spawned an important web site called Ban the Machine. I advise you to check them out.

John McLaughlin: I never much cared for him or for his band of stuffed shirts. But he's old and cantankerous enough to allow himself the occasional snarl at the leash, and he comes from the William F. Buckley wing of the conservative movement. (God help me, but I miss the days when guys like Buckley constituted the Face of the Enemy.) At any rate, McLaughlin recently said on his program that Bush won Ohio by 70,000 votes. Which leads to this simple question: Who handed McLaughlin that number, which differs from the official tally?

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/02/vote-for-fusion-tyranny.html

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Tuesday, January 20, 2004
Why the League of Women Voters Is Wrong on E-Voting
A Point-by-Point Rebuttal

By Eric A. Smith

http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/ericsmith01202004*****

What could reverse 132 years of Dems in GA? Diebold! See dramatic shifts.


For 132 years, Georgia went democratic in its elections. Then the state wnet 100% Diebold, and suddenly, president, senate, house, govennor and counties go red. What a coincidence! Lots of great easy to read data here. This should go on the best fraud articles list.

http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/articles/0128...



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One Person Can Make a Huge Difference

by Lisa Burks



We received the following story from Lisa Burks, President of National Organization for Women-Hot Springs and Vice President Legislation, Arkansas NOW.


http://www.fairelections.us/article.php?id=104
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Don't Outsource Democracy

http://www.votersunite.org/info/outsourcedemocracyno.asp
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Vanishing Act
"Disappearing" the Republic at the Push of a Button
By CHRIS FLOYD

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd09262003.html


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The 2004 U.S. Election Was Stolen
We Won't Get Another Chance in 2006 Unless We Get Rid of Computer Voting NOW
November 2004

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/2004election.html
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Are Georgia's voting machines safe? Maybe not.

http://blogs.salon.com/0001490/2003/02/06.html
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Current Litigation Documents

This is a collection of documents from ongoing litigation . Click here for archived litigation documents. This collection is organized on a state-by-state basis. For all litigation documents, regardless of state, concerning a particular topic, please go to the box on the right of the home page and click on the particular topic of interest.

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/key-litigation.html

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EFF E-voting

The 2004 presidential election might not be flawed like the last one was; it might be even worse. Communities across America are purchasing electronic voting (e-voting) machines, but the technology has serious security problems that aren't being addressed. Most of the machines use "black box" software that hasn't been publicly reviewed for security. Almost none provide voter-verifiable paper ballots to detect fraud. A recent analysis by several academic researchers outlines the many and varied ways that anyone from a technically proficient insider to an average voter could disrupt an e-voting system to defraud an election.

The response of some of the companies that make e-voting machines has been even more upsetting. Instead of embracing close technical review and public interest in its products, one of the three major manufacturers of these machines has embarked upon a campaign of sending cease-and-desist letters to those who criticize it. The company first sent one to the academic researchers and then later sent many to individuals and groups who republished internal email messages that reveal both the problems with the systems and employee attempts to cover up those problems.

E-voting technology is promising, but its benefits should not obscure its dangers. Without basic auditing checks, these machines dramatically increase the chances for undetectable election fraud. This archive is a resource in the fight for accountable elections and responsible voting technology.

» Sign the petition!
» Urge your county to investigate e-voting problems.


Audio of EFF's Election Day Press Conference: mp3 <19M>, ogg <20M>

http://www.eff.org/Activism/E-voting/

Ohio State Senator Fedor summed up the importance of voter participation in the electorate process. "Our last stand is the voting booth," she said. "The big story, in my opinion? The voting booth is the last stand where citizens have a voice and a right to be heard. If you question the election and the voting system, what's left?"

http://www.chronogram.com/issue/2004/10/news/

[rigel99]

8. GREAT COMPILATION...

thanks for my award for Best in Fraud Articles... hee hee.. that made me smile today...

but the link was wrong...
you posted

What could reverse 132 years of Dems in GA? Diebold! See dramatic shifts.


For 132 years, Georgia went democratic in its elections. Then the state wnet 100% Diebold, and suddenly, president, senate, house, govennor and counties go red. What a coincidence! Lots of great easy to read data here. This should go on the best fraud articles list.

http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/articles/0128 ...

************** CORRECTED LINK *****************

http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/articles/0128-georgia.pdf

It will have an even more RIVETING FINDING THE FRAUD update in a few days, so check back there often.. the website for the full GEORGIA FRAUD listings is www.countpaperballots.com

thanks for your compilation, it is both complete and really the best one out there for the 'real goods'...

[SpaceBuddy008]

7. pay NO attention to " the Man Behind the Curtain "

I don't think were In-Democracy AnyMORE..., toto !
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Snohomish County (WA) update

Edited on Mon Feb-21-05 07:56 PM by bailey77
link: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/1954.html...

Black Box Voting will pick up the last of 12 boxes of public records from Snohomish County, Washington this week. The records consist of internal audit logs and "trouble reports" from Snohomish County touch-screen voters.

An e-mail obtained in the request, written from Snohomish County Auditor Bob Terwilliger to San Bernardino (CA) County Registrar Scott Konopasek indicated that Snohomish County had experienced quite a few "calibration problems" where the touch-screen put votes onscreen that differed from the voter's choice.

Black Box Voting has obtained about eight voter's reports of touch-screens marking votes for the wrong candidate.

- In one report, the voter said that votes were on the screen for Bush before he even had a chance to touch the screen.

- Other reports indicated that voters had to "correct" the votes repeatedly.

- In one case, the voter was instructed to press a spot on the screen above the box for the candidate she wanted.

- Another voter was told that the problem might be corrected if she pressed "very lightly only."

Yet, these voter reports are clearly only the tip of the iceberg. Bev Harris examined the internal touch-screen logs from approximately 950 Snohomish County touch-screens. Voting machine internal logs report that "calibrations" were performed on the machines 100 times while the election was in progress.

Presumably only technicians can recalibrate the screen, and one would expect that the screen would not be recalibrated unless it was performing incorrectly. In Snohomish County, the actual number of calibrations was apparently more than ten times the number of voter reports.

Internal logs from the touch-screens show a large number of other anomalies, clustering especially on the Tulalip Indian Reservation and the Cascade Elementary School polling places, as well as some other locations. Black Box Voting is completing an audit of these "mystery anomalies" and will then seek permission to conduct tests to see if they can be replicated, in order to evaluate what was going on with the voter and votes while the internal workings of the machine appeared to be malfunctioning.

Though Snohomish County has been exceptionally cooperative with the Nov. 2 records request, it appears that a small number of records are also missing from the documents produced. In one case, there is a notation that a poll tape is being "held." (No further information was offered as to why the tape was not forthcoming.)

Black Box Voting is taking the Snohomish County documents to Jeremiah Akin in Riverside County, California for his examination, because Riverside has been obstructive with its own records, and the Snohomish records provide a fairly complete set. Akin has developed expertise in examining Sequoia systems, and has expressed interest in seeing a set of records from a cooperative Sequoia touch-screen county.

Additional work has been done on Snohomish County by VotersUnite.org (http://www.votersunite.org ).

An attorney, Paul Lehto, is currently taking on the role of a plaintiff in a lawsuit against Snohomish County touch-screens, on the grounds that the touch-screens force votes to be counted in secret, a violation of the law.

The records from Snohomish County will be used in Riverside, California to help teach local citizens techniques for auditing elections on Sequoia touch-screens, and the techniques learned from Snohomish County will also be applied to Palm Beach County, Florida.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x331377
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Here's the list of speakers and topics for the teach-in!


Program Overview

I. The Arc Of Justice: We've Been Here Before

* DVD excerpt: Rev. Jesse Jackson, Sr., "Martyrs of the Civil Rights Movement"

* Lynn Landes, journalist, "How America Used to Vote"
* John Gideon, VotersUnite!, "Analysis of HAVA Misinformation in the Press"


II. Voter Suppression

* DVD excerpt: "Columbus Ohio Election Day Footage", by Linda Byrket, http://www.votecobb.org/video/#video5,
* Bob Fitrakis, Columbus Free Press, "The Taking of Ohio Prior to Nov. 2"
* Emily Levy, Juice for Justice, "Precinct Analysis in Ohio"
* Warren Stewart, National Ballot Integrity Project, "Recounting New Mexico"


III. What Happened In 2004: Red Shifting Exit Polls

* DVD excerpt: Susan Truitt, Ohio attorney

* Jonathan Simon, Alliance for Democacy, "Analysis of Exit Polls"
* Allyson Washburn, US Countvotes.org, "The Reluctant Republican Responder"
* Larry Bensky, KPFA, "The Disappearing Media"


5 Minute Stretch

IV. The Age of the Machines

* Jim March, Blackboxvoting.org, "How to Hack a Diebold Vote Tabulator"
* Wayne Madsen, journalist, "The Privatization of the Vote"


Lunch (45 Min)

V. Litigation

* Paul Lehto, Washington attorney, "Verifying Democracy 101: Sue First, Ask Questions Later"

* Bob Fitrakis, Free Press, "History of Moss v. Bush, the Sanctions, Future Legal Actions"


VI. Legislation

* Butch Wing, political director, Rainbow PUSH, "Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr.'s Constitutional Amendment Guaranteeing the Right to Vote"
* Bob Kibrick, Verifiedvoting.org, "Pending Federal Legislation for Electoral Reform"
* Sharon Cornu, Alameda County Central Labor Council, "Organized Labor and Election Reform"
* Medea Benjamin, Code Pink, "A Voters' Bill of Rights"


VII. Action VII.

* Walter Riley, community activist, "Organize County by County, Precinct by Precinct"
* Lynn Landes, journalist, "A Paper Ballot is the Only Solution"
* Alan Dechert, Open Voting Consortium, "Open Source Code Machines"
* Kathy Dopp and Allyson Washburn, UScountvotes.org, "Citizen Precinct Analysis"
* Open Microphone

Organizing a pro-democracy movement at the grassroots involving local Democratic clubs, Assembly District committees, the MMOB, the Green Party, Code Pink, and every group that is concerned about every citizen voting and every vote being counted.
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Twin Peaks- coercion, control, concentration of nested BigGov/BigMedia.....,

..........,balanced by creative cooperation, concern CUZ of CONCENTRATING on facts by the "UNofficial web-O-Smiles " & caring of The People of the ~WEB*

The People of the Hand will DeFeat The people of the FisT cuz..,The Hand can share all UseFul Things, while the fist must CoNceal what IT holds

A fist or an open hand? as each of US chooses - SO BeComes The World
-D.J.K.