Interview details YEARS of election fraud, media & Mitofsky complicity

[Amaryllis]

I posted this thread on Votescam
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss//duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=326096&mesg_id=326096

On this thread, Dzika posted this link to an interview with Victoria Collier, daughter of the VoteScam book author, shortly after the 2004 election:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss//duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=326096&mesg_id=326498&page=

You HAVE to listen to this! She talks about how election fraud has been going on for years; it's just become easier with e-voting. She talks a lot about how the media has been complicit in election fraud for years, long before e-voting was even a factor.

Mitofsky is also complicit and has been involved for years!
This explains a whole lot.
Exit polls have been rigged for years, also.

She says the Dems AND repubs have rigged elections for years to maintain the two party system, and it just happens that the republicans have managed to wrest control from the Dems with E-voting. This also explains a lot of questions about possible Dems complicity.

If you don't have time or don't want to listen to the interview,which is about an hour long but well worth it, go here for links to the Votescam website, and for chapters to the book that you can read.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss//duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=326096&mesg_id=326096

[mhr]

1. Thanks For Posting This!

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[Amaryllis]

2. Did you check out the interview? It blew my mind, but it sure explained

some things and made some things fall into place.

[Helga Scow Stern]

3. Thanks for posting again.

I kept meaning to listen to it, and I finally had time.

I had not heard that perspective on Mitofsky.

[Amaryllis]

6. Have you seen the Votescam video? I am wondering how it compares

to Invisible Ballots for edcuational presentations.

[tommcintyre]

8. Quality/Credibility may be a deciding factor

For more mainstream audiences, you can't go wrong with Invisible Ballots. It come across well, delivers the vital ideas and is well-received by open-minded "mainstream" groups. (It was well-received by the Dem party here in Hawaii - enough to show it twice so far.)

"Invisible Ballots" was produced, directed, photographed, and edited by William Gazecki, director of the Academy Award nominated documentary, WACO; The Rules of Engagement.
http://www.williamgazecki.com/bio.html

I don't remember if it discusses the central tabulator issues, since I saw it several months back. Of course, what it is missing is post 11-2 info. However, using the 50 minute version as an opener, then giving an oral followup (filling in the gaps) would make an excellent edcuational presentation, considering the credibility the doc would give to your whole presentation.

[Amaryllis]

9. Thank you! THis is very helpful and timely info for me. I haven't seen

Votescam yet so can't judge its credibility.

[Wilms]

4. Was just wondering about this.

On one of TIA's threads, someone was trying to debunk him posting data that
shows exit polls being wrong for years, and always skewing toward Democrats.

I thought, maybe that means the election has been tampered with over
as many years, even if it didn't succeed in overturning an election.

-on edit-

:shrug:

[seaclyr]

5. Doesn't surprise me one bit

Despite what we hope for, the criminal element tends to rise to the top in politics IMO. Typically the richer the country, the more white collar crime ...

[Peace Patriot]

7. This woman is RIGHT ON! Victoria Collier! Very clear, and very, very...

...savvy.

"There are appropriate uses of technology but counting votes on computers in secret is not one of them." --Victoria Collier

Fabulous interview!

[Wilms]

10. kick n/t

[Amaryllis]

11. kick