CA: Repug Proposes Law Requiring Voter ID = Assembly Bill 1006

[L. Coyote]

Attacking the non-problem in another state....

http://www.orovillemr.com/Stories/0,1413,157~26686~2736534,00.html

"The assemblyman said the bill was his own idea he didn't introduce it at the request of any other individuals or groups."

"Keene's idea sounded like 'a regression to the restrictive voting rules in the South of 50 years ago,' "

[ewagner]

1. Just like the crap

going on in Wisconsin now....

this is a coordinated RW attack aimed at voter suppression....don't let the SOBs tell you differently!!!!! :grr: :grr:

[Postmanx]

2. I think this is a good idea

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A California driver's license or identification card, military identification or citizenship certificate would be acceptable identification, according to a news release his office sent out this week. For proof of residency, a voter could show items like a bank statement or utility bill.
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Who would be inconvenienced by this? Who doesn't have some form of ID or something addressed to them?

[BanzaiBonnie]

3. The problems with national ID

for voter ID or anything else are numerous. Not the least of which is this is one of the supreme methods of control of citizens.

It brings to mind all the repercussions of, "show me your papers" in those countries where the state is considered more important than citizens. I pity those who don't yet realize what we are heading for; the all powerful state that has complete control of every aspect from birth to death.

I know Bushites who would recoil in horror, but they have chosen party over principal. And they have been duped.

[L. Coyote]

4. You ask, "Who would be inconvenienced by this?" Let me tell you who.

The poor, working stiff who shows up at the polls during lunch break and realized he forgot it. he has to get back to work on time or he gets fired and his famoily starves.

Who would not? The fat cat Repug who does not have to work. If he forgets his ID, he can take all day to go home and get it!

This is a non-problem. We don't have people voting who are not supposed to vote. We have people not voting who should be voting. And the measure will not make more people vote.

You don't fix elections by having unqualified people voting.

You fix a democracy by making it easier to vote.

[StatGirl]

6. Problems with ID

"Who would be inconvenienced by this? Who doesn't have some form of ID or something addressed to them?"

At the moment, I would be inconvenienced. Granted, this is an unusual case, but the California DMV is refusing to send me my renewed license because the name on my license (my married name) does not match the name on my social security card (my maiden name).

At the moment, I'm trying to figure out which law requires the names to match, because I don't want to change either one. If it weren't for my passport, I would be without a valid picture ID.

Although this is a rare situation, my point is that there are lots of ways to screw with people on the ID issue. I think it would be a total nightmare for someone who has recently moved. The California DMV is *not* an efficient organization.

[L. Coyote]

7. Republicans are trying to shave points. Just another voter suppression..

There is a long list of who might be impacted and yours is just one example.

What we do know for sure, the persons likeliest to be impacted are Democratic voters, not Republicans. The Republicans also know this and they are trying to shave points with this totally unnecessary "reform."

[anaxarchos]

5. These guys think George Orwell wrote training manuals... n/t

[L. Coyote]

8. Another Article: Critics are coming forward with good arguments

" ...Nevada County Clerk-Recorder Kathleen Smith said she believed that instead of helping restore voter confidence, the bill would damage it.

"Voting is a right, not a privilege. When you start requiring people to do something in order to vote, you are going back in time," she said.

Smith also criticized Keene for not contacting any of the elections officials in the counties - including Nevada County - he represents. She said she only learned of it when she was contacted by the Butte County elections official, which is also a part of Keene's district, along with Lassen, Plumas, Yuba, and Sierra Counties, and a northern strip of Placer County.

Besides, she said, there is already a system in place for verifying identity.

The Help America Vote Act requires new voters to prove their identities when they register, or at the precinct polls if they have not previously voted in a federal election, and every signature on a ballot must be verified by three separate individuals.

The proposed bill may be tough to implement as well. "What about people who vote by mail? They don't have to show anything." Smith said."

Article:

http://www.theunion.com/article/20050301/NEWS/103010156/-1/rss01

[L. Coyote]

9. Indiana State Senate passes photo ID voter requirement

Is the a Nationwide Republican effort to shave points?

Tue, Mar. 01, 2005

Voter ID bill OK’d by INDIANA state senators

Showing photo would be required at the polls

By Sara Eaton, The Journal Gazette, Fort Wayne

"INDIANAPOLIS – The Indiana Senate on Monday approved a measure that would require voters to show a picture ID before being allowed to vote at the polls. The bill now moves on to the House......"

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/local/11020989.htm