Dean's talking about Voting Rights, the Machines, Voter Suppression

[autorank]

...on C-SPAN, DNC Meeting. He's giving an excellent speech talking about the Mississippi state Democratic Party, at this point. Saying all the right things about getting people elected.

Then he spent some time talking about problems with machines, voter suppression, and the need for voting rights. He wants things in place for 2005 elections and, thank you Howard, he mentioned Virginia (Gov & Legislature).

He mentioned these names as key players for DNC in the voting rights operation:

Eric Holder, Arlene Meyerson, Rolanda Rios, Paul Iwasaki

Holder is a heavy weight.

He then introduced Joe Sandler, DNC member. He talked about a lawyers steering committee with national and state chapter.

DNC Committee members asked questions at the end of the speech, many of which were about voting problems.

On edit: Important! He said their target for voting rights and fraud prevention efforts are OHIO and FLORIDA, mentioned that a few times. Said he wanted Democratic Secretary of State candidates to WIN everywhere.

Well, well, well

Contact the DNC and to Do More to Stop Election Fraud

NEW LEADERS FOR A NEW DEMOCRATIC PARTY

[Melodybe]

1. What's he saying about MS, I met him while he was here.

I even stole a kiss (on his left cheek).

He loves mentioning MS and I love hearing him mention it.

[autorank]

3. He said some good stuff.

Barbour is a shit head, well not really, but that he wanted 50,000 people off of public assistance (Medicaid, I think).

Dems have a 9 vote majority in one chamber of your leg. and that prevented Gov. shit head (sorry, I loathe Barbour) from axing the people.

Dems should win some down there.

Not reasonable today to think of carrying MS in 2008 but need to get governor, senators, and state reps elected, vital, then go for 2008 with gusto.

This is one big reason I like Dean. He said he'd go down there. He did . He said he'd take it seriously, he did. Had a bunch of MS folks he introduced at the DNC Exec. meeting. HE KEEPS HIS WORD...and yes, he seems to really like MS. Good for him, send him to see R.L. Burnside next time and he's yours forever.

Their commentary on voting rights was good, election fraud, not specific. With Eric Holder involved, it will be serious.

There was great pollster there, Cornell Belcher, who everybody seemed to like. Didn't see his whole deal. Myster Pollster is probably acting out against the Dems because this guy has the biz. Good riddance.

:hi:

[Melodybe]

11. Awesome, check this, the repubs have long wanted Oxford to be theirs

Lots of land, prime realty just waiting to destroyed by Barbour and his creew. But because we are a college town their are loads of liberals that have moved here as professors, they stayed and had children. We actually have plenty of liberal democrats living here. So anyway the town just had its local elections, and Haley was throwing loads of cash behind two candidates.

One was a former DJ for the Ole Miss radio station, he is a stupid ass, and he was challenging a older black man, a 35 year educator, who actually cared about his community. It was aweful Sisson, the DJ, had signs littered everywhere. Well, we canvased, called people, gave them rides to the polls and handed Sisson his ass. Haley was so upset that he called and cussed the 27 year old Sisson out. I over heard some of the repubs working on his campaign bitching about it, "I can't believe Haley is sooo mean":(

The other candidate was a rich jerk that campaigned on pushing the Bush agenda also had his ass handed to him. They spent a TON of money on him.

We were thrilled to retain our majority and pick up a seat. Basically Barbour wasted all that time and money and that totally rocks.

FUCK Haley Barbour!

WE WON!

As for Dean, we love him here, he got the key to the city (Jackson) and plenty of standing ovations. Meeting him was a reward for all that have worked on in the last few years.

[LightningFlash]

2. Unbelievable....

Howard Dean has finally woken the sleeping giant!!! :toast:

I can't wait to hear him drill the issue of Ohio fraud and the massive deception there....He will go where Kerry was too afraid to go, and expose the corruption. I hope for all our sakes the republican witnesses come forward (I'd love to hear from Voinovich on this.)

[autorank]

4. Yes indeed. See my edit to above post, You'll love it OH, FL featured

:toast:

[tommcintyre]

5. Hey Auto. Maybe the DNC heard you!

Re: Your thread that made it to bellacaio.

That pix of Harvey may have shook 'em up! ;)

Sure is good to see them "getting with the program" finally.

[autorank]

19. I think it was a visit by "my cousin Vinny>" haha.

Thanks for the kind words. :hi:

[GettysbergII]

6. Thanks for the report, Autorank!

I get the feeling election transparency will be an issue Dean and the progressive dems will just pound and pound at until the Voting Rights Act is renewed in 2007. The reptilicans can either bite their cold-blooded tongues and go along with the program or be exposed to the minorities as the racist, antidemocratic pricks they are.

[autorank]

7. Your thread inspired me. Amazing what you find out w/out the media

Now two DU ERD folks have each heard it, although your information was gathered in person. The hammer is about to fall.

AMF * and company.

[Peace Patriot]

8. Well, we have a lot of anti-reptile lingo in the English language (and

probably in other languages, too--what do Murkins know about it?). And it probably goes back to the dinosaurs or something. Some sort of sibling rivalry AT THE BEGINNING. ("And God chose" ...US, the ones with boobs and pricks!). Doesn't mean we have to keep slandering the egg-layers and the leathery-skinned by comparing them to Bushites!

Please. (Some people like snakes. And they were once the symbol for EVERYTHING, the Cosmos!)

How about cockroaches. (They can be removed from God's Plan, as far as I'm concerned.) (Republicroaches?)

Or mosquitoes? (doesn't work)

Sharks? (better) (Republisharks.)

Leeches? (Republileeches?) (has a certain lilting charm).

Borg. (Repuborgs?)

Man eating orchids? (Republimaneatingorchards?)

Pretty clever. Reptilicans. (Doesn't somebody--David Ickes?--have a theory about where they came from?). But specistically incorrect.

Crabgrass. (Republicrabgrass?)

Hyenas.

Mad dogs.

Genetically modified organisms.

Earwigs.

Orc. (The G-Orc-P?) (GOrcP)................

(sorry)

[GettysbergII]

16. Your points well taken, Peace Patriot. My kids would feel the same

way about reptiles getting the short end of the stick. Oh well, it's back to the drawing board I guess.

[glitch]

20. neo-cancers

nobody likes cancer, and they behave more like a cancer than anything else.

[Peace Patriot]

9. Democratic Secretaries of State....

"Said he wanted Democratic Secretary of State candidates to WIN everywhere."

We had one, in California. Kevin Shelley--the one who sued Diebold and decertified the worst of their voting machines prior to the 2004 election, and provided Californians with a paper ballot option. Career destroyed, driven from office in Feb., on trivial, unproven charges--a campaign led by Democrat Connie McCormack, head of Los Angeles elections, who advocates paperless voting and Diebold, and whose best friend is Diebold's former chief salesperson in Calif. CA Dem legislators sat back and let it happen--or piled on--probably cowering in their boots over what the Bush Cartel's secret dossiers hold on THEM, and at the power of the Bush Cartel and the news monopolies to destroy them with 'black ops' and trumpeted innuendo, should they cause any pain to Bush donors (the voting machine companies), or other cronies and operatives.

Now we have a Schwarzenegger patsy APPOINTEE as Sec of State--replacing the popularly elected Democrat Kevin Shelley--and Diebold and ES&S couldn't wait to start proffering their election theft equipment again (VSPP meeting this Thurs, June 16--see the DU action thread).

With this kind of disgusting performance by DEMOCRATS--failing to protect their own, running for the hills, cowering and colluding--how can we expect good people to run for office, and to protect our right to vote once they're elected?

I am overjoyed that Howard Dean is on this issue. Truly I am. I knew he had it in him. (He said, very early on, that election reform was going to have to be done at the state/local level--he was so right! I knew then what he was capable of understanding--very, very smart guy.) BUT...

...on the matter of electronic voting, the Democrats need desperately to clean their own house, to get rid of cowards and colluders and all the corruption in this very corruptible scene, brought upon us by HAVA and its $4+ billion in bribes to the states (and multi-millions in lobbying and "revolving door" employment). California stinks with it--at the county and state levels--and it's probably stinkeroo in Congress as well, and all over the country.

It's not just the Bush "pod people."

So, the next time you get a blank stare from a Democratic Party official or elected representative on the matter of Bushites owning and controlling our election system, start thinking who you might support to replace them. Those blank stares may not be the result of mere ignorance and stupidity.

----

Sorry to rant--but what happened in California with Shelley was simply dreadful--and an important lesson to us all. It opened my eyes to the failure of our Democratic Party leaders to protect us from a fraudulent election SYSTEM--a failure that occurred long before the 2004 election. Shelley was one of the few Democrats in the entire country who was in the trenches, fighting the good fight for us on this vital matter. They acted to stop him--AND to provide an EXAMPLE of what will happen to OTHER officials who dare to oppose the most important component of this junta: control of our elections.

[autorank]

10. "Rant" on about CA Scty of State -- Dems there were fooled.

Of course, it didn't help that the guy gave them a little amo apparently but that's no excuse. The party Democrats out there needs to grow a spine so they'll be recognized by the likes of you, your people, and the great public servants who make S's life so miserable.

I'm sure you'll crush him in the of so special election. Don't be surprised if he steps down after a crushing defeat. And if he thinks he can steal it, well there are a whole lot of people much smarter than he and his crew are...he'll get caught. Guy can do time w/DeLay and the rest of them.

Keep up the good work out there! Makes me proud of my home state.

On edit: I'll make a prediction here. If the Republicans cheat in any way in the oh-so-special election, they will get caught and the courts out there will force the cheating into the public eye. Could be the Waterloo for "the machines" or tabulator hackers. You know S will cheat just to win this, regardless of what others may want to "preserve the secret." This is where it could happen. Arnold we hardly knew ye!

[Peace Patriot]

12. Well, I dunno. We have some great activists out here, and an...

...overwhelmingly progressive population. It's surely a difficult state for the Bush Cartel to break. But I've been appalled at the Bush Cartel's activities here since Enron--out and out planned theft of $9 billion--our entire budget surplus--then managing to blame it on Davis! Then Time magazine and Larry King giving Schwarzenegger multi-millions in free EXTRA publicity--in that six week election wonder, the Recall.

Then Shelley.

Now Diebold and ES&S come back with their touchscreens--to Schwarz's Sec of State appointee.

They're going all out. They are intent on ruling us, and robbing us some more.

There were problems with the election system even under Shelley. He hadn't had much time to work on it--and just debarred the worst of it, the DREs, prior to '04--just in time. We had a more or less real election here. But there is a strange anomaly in the Boxer-Kerry totals. Boxer beat her opponent by a 20% margin; Kerry beat Bush by only a 10% margin. And the difference (in Boxer's favor) is all in the Republican counties. Very strange. (If it were an incumbent thing, or a locally known name thing, it would be across-the-board, in Dem and Repub counties. Also, people voting for Bush and Boxer? Go figure.) (I think there was some kind of shave here, of Kerry votes, in Republican counties--Republicans and others in Republican areas voting for Kerry who got disenfranchised.) (--and it sure fits my anecdotal information.)

The counties with highly partisan Republican or corrupt Democratic (pro-paperless--Diebold) county election officials gave Shelley a really hard time in many ways, and couldn't wait to get rid of him. And these are going to gain ascendancy under Schwarzenegger's Sec of State.

So, we have a whole set of county election officials--and not just Repub ones--and our Sec of State, beholden to Schwarzenegger and in thrall to Bush donors Diebold and ES&S.

It's a worrisome picture.

Diebold/ES&S's ability to corrupt Dems is a big and hidden factor in all we have been dealing with, re: the 2004 fraudulent election, and how it got set up.

One thing I picked up on--in my readings on Shelley--can't recall where it was (probably a Sec of State doc, that may be gone now--should have grabbed it)--is that Shelley's next move was to demand that Diebold provide him with its programming code. (Possibly part of his lawsuit against them? A condition of compliance with the suit?). Since we now know what that programming may contain, this may have been seen as a grave threat to the 2004 election fraudsters (threat of revelation).

Their precipitous destruction of Shelley may have been related to this--to the imminent threat of exposure of their programming code.

The charges against him never had any substance, that I could see. The most serious was done by someone else, not by him--and sounds for all the world like a black op--a set up. Someone got a Sec of State grant, then turned around and donated campaign money to him--something he surely would have caught and stopped, if he'd known about it. I mean, it's an obvious no-no, something any Sec of State would have forbidden, especially one as intelligent and high caliber as Shelley. And there is absolutely no evidence that he knew about it, or that he was corrupt in any way. He was poor! He didn't have legal funds to defend himself. That's how venal he was. Mind and soul on his job. Christ, what a loss!

(Word is that that's why he resigned. The Bush controlled EAC was breathing down his neck, threatening investigation. And he had no money--no personal money, and no legal fund.)

And I think what all of this has done--and is doing--is making CA Dems feel fearful, like Congressional Dem's must have felt after they were anthrax ed (and after Paul Well stone's plane went down, for no good reason, with no public inquest afterward).

Byzantine shadows. Figures in the fog. Fear. Back-stabbings. Mysterious ruinations and deaths. Who's next?

I hope and pray that we will all soon awaken from this nightmare. May the beautiful California sun shine on us all! May democracy be reborn here, and flourish, and may our children and our children's children some day thank us for passing the great legacy of American democracy on to them, as it was passed by others to us. Or, if we fail, let them know how hard we tried, how hard we fought, and how compelling the dream of democracy and good government is. That hope will be never be extinguished.

[Amaryllis]

18. They have a Dem SOS in GA too, who installed Diebold statewide.

[Boredtodeath]

21. And is now running for Governor

Fully supported by the DNC and all of the DEM apparatus.

[blm]

13. Sounds good, except how do you elect any Sec of State with machines

rigged against you? The machines have to be exposed and those fascists who control the vote for BushInc need to be exposed along with them.

[autorank]

15. First of all, I'll take a back seat on this argument to most around here..

Such modesty on my part!

Rigging elections is not a binary affair. Just because they can, doesn't mean they will be able to do so. Remember the '60's with all the demonstrations. "They" could have shot everyone at those demonstrations. There was way too much violence against protesters, particularly voting rights advocates, but it was limited. Why? Because the public was aware of the demonstrations and opposed to mass killings.

With elections, there is a burgeoning awareness of the problem. All it takes is for someone to speak the truth, could be Dean or someone else, and the issue is on the table. At this point, rigging elections becomes more difficult. There are many out there with questions? There are many more, perhaps a majority of Americans, who would quickly have questions. There are some localities where prosecutors might actually take a case and some judges who might actually hear it if there were evidence of fraud. All of this makes it much harder to steal elections.

The key element here is getting the word out to the public. We need just one "main stream" politician, (e.g., Dean, Reid (he's good at mouthing off), Kennedy, a prominent governor), to raise this issue in a serious way and we're in a position where, in some areas, we would have a fighting chance.

So, IMHO, we can get things in good enough shape to do some real damage to the creeps. All we need is one major fraud case proved out and there will be Hell to pay.

[kster]

14. KICK.NT

[kster]

17. DOUBLE KICK.NT

[paineinthearse]

22. Just got to this one, buried so deep.

Please re-post so it gets the attention it deserves.

[autorank]

23. KICK cause it's coming our way tomorrow!

:kick:

[GettysbergII]

25. Here comes the report, Autorank, ten days later just as Dean promised.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x379657

NC RELEASES STUDY OF 2004 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN OHIO

Washington - The Democratic National Committee's Voting Rights Institute will present DNC Chairman Howard Dean their report on the conduct of the 2004 presidential election in Ohio.

Copies of the report will be available at the press conference tomorrow and at www.democrats.org .

Who: DNC Chairman Howard Dean
DNC Voting Rights Institute Chair Donna Brazile
Julie Andreef, Ohio regional field director and practicing attorney focusing on election law
Cornell Belcher, president of Brilliant Corners Research and Strategies
Walter Mebane, Jr., Professor of Government at Cornell University
Dan Wallach, Assistant Professor of Political Science at Rice University.

When: Wednesday, June 22, 2005; 11:00 a.m.

Where: DNC Headquarters, 430 South Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC
Wasserman Family Conference Room

==============================

CSPAN2 is scheduled to cover this:

Democratic Agenda
Democratic National Committee
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 187286 - 06/21/2005 - 0:30 - $29.95

Durbin, Richard J., U.S. Senator, D-IL
Dean, Howard, Chair (2005- ), Democratic National Committee

Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean speaks about the Democratic Party agenda at the "Paint the Nation Blue" fundraiser.

...nothing even close on CSPAN.

Please contact CSPAN and suggest this be at least taped, if not broadcast live.

Suggest Events: Submit a public event that you think C-SPAN should cover - [e-mail]

[autorank]

26. Damn you're good!

I quoted you and named you in my GD/Greatest post tonight. Forgot the link and I appologize for that but I was under some pressure since I'd procractinated on the story. I look forward to meeting you at a future rally! maybe one where we celebrate a victory!!!

:toast:

On edit: GettysbergII, see this link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3915770#3916944

[GettysbergII]

27. Igualmente, mi amigo, see you at the barricades!

[Dancing_Dave]

24. There was never any question that Dean WOULD make e-fraud an issue

He was indeed aware of the problem months before the 2004 election (at least) and I knew all along that as DNC chair he WOULD find a way to bring this forward.

Mind you, I'm no knee-jerk Dean cheerleader, and I don't have a lot of confidence in how he'll handle increasingly pressing foreign policy...I mean Bush war...issues which are rightly coming to the fore in many peoples minds now. But I know that when it comes to exposing and ending high-tech election fraud, Dean will definately give it his best shot.