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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:58 AM
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The Free Press: Did * Steal America's 2004 Election? (Read this!)
This is the intro to their new volume of compiled evidence, and it succinctly and thoroughly recaps the entire story so far.

Very well-written, with big props to internet activists (ahem) and a couple references that I'm happy to take as shout-outs to DU.

And let me take a moment to thank all of you here for all you did, in the face of impossible odds, to force the truth out into the open. I came here via dKos, and here I've stayed, because while Kos and friends were putting down the "fraudsters", people here were hard at work.


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/061805Z.shtml


DU:


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thjay Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:05 PM
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1. I just finished reading this
I want a copy of the book or maybe several to share with my coolaid drinking neighbors.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:09 PM
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2. Thanks, good stuff.
History will clearly show what really occurred during this period in American history.

Let's just hope there are people left to learn from it.
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 12:33 PM
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3. bleever, Thank you for posting this..
quote attributed to Jeb Bush (Florida governor, brother of George W. Bush):
"The truth is useless. You have to understand this right now. You can't deposit the truth in a bank. You can't buy groceries with the truth. You can't pay rent with the truth. The truth is a useless commodity that will hang around your neck like an albatross all the way to the homeless shelter. And if you think that the million or so people in this country that are really interested in the truth about their government can support people who would tell them the truth, you got another thing coming. Because the million or so people in this country that are truly interested in the truth don't have any money."
:hurts: http://www.oilempire.us/index.html
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WeHoldTheseTruths Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:20 PM
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10. wow
I've been reading "Origins of the Anglo-Dutch World Order" by Robert Ingraham and Jeb's quote there just took my breath away.

http://wlym.com/articles/ingraham-anglo-dutch.pdf
forty odd page PDF that makes Jeb look like a reincarnation of some mighty nasty scumbags back through the last 1000 years or so.

Download it and print it out. Keep it in the can and read a few paragraphs from time to time. I absolutely guarentee you will, in time be grateful for the edification.

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hiley, thanks for this mind-blowing quote.

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Wow Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:11 PM
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11. The folks with the money
And the people with the money have learned how to alter the truth and now think they own our government. Now it is time to take it back.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 01:01 PM
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4. "while Kos and friends ...
... were putting down the "fraudsters", people here were hard at work."

Despite all the evidence that has come out since, Kossacks apparently still believe in their "President" - Bush. Their work is based on a strategy, DU's is based on the truth.

Excellent reading, by the way.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 02:22 PM
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5. Just read the whole thing and everyone who wants an explanation
of the election ...should read this. We should send it to many of those fence sitters...but the die hard bush* lovers will never change their minds...nothing will! Even though I have trying to follow this story...I didn't realize the election was so fraudulent. No wonder the Rethugs felt so safe getting rid of the filibuster. They KNEW they would never lose another election.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:27 PM
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8. The people who need to know about 2004 election fraud are the
people who were disenfranchised that day--the majority, who voted overwhelmingly for John Kerry with, I believe, in numerous minds, the specific intention of ousting the Bush Cartel.

The facts are overwhelming that the majority was defrauded that day, and that we do not now have "consent of the governed" or a legitimate government.

We needn't bother with "die hard bush lovers" and other Koolaid drinkers. They are a minority--always have been, always will be.

We DO need to bother with Kerry voters who are in denial--because they have a very serious problem: they are much too dependent upon the corporate news monopolies for a sense of reality. These are the people who say, "Why isn't it in the news?" or "Why aren't the Democrats talking about it?"

We need to treat them gently, and help them get un-brainwashed, and detached from that lethal umbilical cord that the news monopolies provide to a false and illusionary "democracy."

What occurred that day, not just within the secret, proprietary programming code that tabulated all our votes (or didn't tabulate them), owned and controlled by Bush partisans, and not just in Ohio and Florida with massive violations of the Voting Rights Act, but what occurred that day among the news monopolies--their FALSIFICATION of the exit polls--will live in infamy as the darkest hour of modern journalism and the darkest day in American history.

THAT's what mesmerized people and prevented a national outcry and call for official investigation--the IMPRESSION given by the TV news monopolies that Bush had won the exit polls, too. I even believed it myself for a few hours. They CHANGED the exit polls--which Kerry won--"adjusted" them to fit the official tally--thus denying the American people major evidence of election fraud.

And with that, many Kerry voters resigned themselves to living in a "red-shifted" nation, and to possibly being able to fight the good fight and win NEXT TIME--but never realizing that the election result was false, and that there would never be a "next time" if the current election SYSTEM remained in place.

They do not know how completely they were lied to and manipulated. And, if they think about it, they don't know what to do about it now. They are demoralized and depressed, many of them. Others have been trying to rally the troops on different issues, but don't realize that they DON'T have to convince the majority of Americans on Iraq, on Social Security or the federal deficit or torture or any other matter; Americans are already convinced but were unable to get their will enforced, due to election fraud. ALL OF THESE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. And they need to be directed to state/local election reform as priority #1 in recovering our country.

Forget Bushites! Their minority views get trumpeted far, far beyond the minority of the population that they represent. And they are not convincible. They are crazy in the head, most of them. Don't be fooled by the TRUMPET (the news monopolies). You do not have to convince crazy Bushites!

Concentrate on Kerry voters--and I mean Republicans, too, because I believe that lots of Republicans voted for Kerry and were disenfranchised on 11/2. New voters, independents, and Nader voters all voted for Kerry in large numbers--along with traditional Democrats and Gore 2000 voters.

These are the ones who need to be helped, inspired and activated.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 03:37 PM
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6. thanks bleever!!
And thanks for helping in the GD thread! :)
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 04:53 PM
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7. The pleasure is mine.
:)

Can I borrow your flying monkey? They always add something special to a thread.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:41 PM
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9. wasn't he special?
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