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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:24 PM
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Outrage for our Andy
Edited on Mon Jul-18-05 01:25 PM by holboz
After reading the thread "The Stalking of Andy Stephenson" (located at <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=383284&mesg_id=383284>), I was filled with such outrage with what some people did in an attempt to deny Andy medical care and intimidate those who were caring for him.

It seems that Andy was a sort of 'hot button' for them, as if it was a way that they could orchestrate a murder without having to pull a trigger or drive a knife themselves. It boggles my mind that there could be a concerted effort by a group of people to hurt and endanger someone at their most vulnerable. It is a damnable abomination and I am sure they will be judged for it when their time comes.

I'm relatively new to DU, but I know of the good work and effort Andy did. And like the tell-tale heart in Edgar Allen Poe's book, I want his name to be a constant reminder to those whose aim was to kill an innocent man.

Mods: Sorry if this commentary doesn't apply here; it was just my initial thought after reading the thread about Andy
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:27 PM
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1. Very well written
though I am only slightly aware of what actually happened. I too am outraged that people would go to such a low level in order blast an honest, humanitarian effort for a such a humble being as Andy.


Sorry, brain's on the lam so I can't type as much.

Dee
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:29 PM
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2. I believe we are all looking forward to names being named!
~ the truth is horrible and it should be made known to all!
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:29 PM
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5. I believe that one could make a case for wrongful death...
considering the exent to which the
freepers went to delay, and block Andy's
treatments.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:22 PM
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8. AGREE AGREE AGREE
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 03:27 PM
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9. I'll do everything in my power to see that is exactly what will happen!
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:09 PM
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11. 1. Delayed surgery 2 weeks. 2. Delayed post surgery medical treatment
3 weeks during which time Andy developed a cyst and fever as high as 105 degree. Once he finally received treatment he recovered momentarily only to succumb in the end. The tumor was removed successfully.

Wrongful death? Are there any lawyers out there?
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:13 AM
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17. let me offer you a small quote from Andy months ago
"Well...I am tired all the time...awaiting word on when I am go for surgery..." those were some of Andy's own words from one PM we shared.



~ are there any lawyers ~ are there any writers & publicist who will compile and tell all of the truth about the harassment that prevented Andy's treatment in a timely fashion!
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 01:36 PM
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3. It was sick.
I like your reference to "Tell-Tale-Heart".

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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:21 PM
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4. Right on! Thank you for your outrage. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:36 PM
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6. The names of the known perps SHOULD NOT BE POSTED
here or anywhere to protect any future legal proceeding. Please help me remind people of this important fact.

We know who these people are, rest assured of that.

This will require a measure of patience on all our parts. But, we can do that.

B.
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 02:46 AM
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12. sfexpat2000, What If....
The alledged perps disclose personal information themselves?

I'm asking because over at Radio News America there's been some "interesting" activity in the comments section of my tribute to Andy last Monday.

If you can stomach the comments, click here: http://www.radionewsamerica.com/index.php?blog=5&title=andy_stephenson_a_real_american_hero&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#comments

I admit I was egging them on this afternoon in an attempt to get under their skin. Others were doing it on their own as well. Feel free to use the information on those posts as needed, because I've requested to keep that hatefest open in case you find it useful.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:26 AM
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13. I'll go look. I'm not a lawyer but the better part of wisdom
is not to post this information to public boards.

(Oh, and can I say, I just can't wait so see those comments?!)

Thank you,
Beth

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:36 AM
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15. Robbie, I can't get it to come up for me.
I'll keep trying, maybe there's a maintenance thingy going on. You can always email me with contact info @ info@dougzilla.com -- the addy I've already made public.

Thank you for hanging in there with us.
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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 04:40 AM
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16. No Problem
I figure if I could withstand the first couple of days of FreepFest, I'd make it through. This time around, I came out swinging and I think I caught them off guard. LOL
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 02:37 PM
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7. That story was a terrible thing to read.
Hard not to think of counter-actions in the same vein. It's all so wrong. The lowest of us can inflict such damage on the whole, regardless of whatever the response is. They seem to feel nothing, to believe in nothing, to know nothing, to proudly not care that they are attempting to destroy the world. They need to somehow be excluded, but who knows how to do this? Education and self-awareness are the only peaceful solutions, but there's an organized movement in this country to destroy those things. A drive to insanity. A genetic code for societal destruction that's kicked in and roaring. Sickness as philosophy. Sickness as a choice.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 03:28 AM
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14. I'm so sorry. But at some point, we have to know
what we're up against.

It was terrible to write as well.

fwiw
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 10:07 PM
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10. This only shows how much the right wing hates life and democracy
and goodness....everything that Andy exuded.They do not have even one individual in their ranks who could hold a candle to Andy.I can't imagine a scenario in which DU would be so blindly spiteful to another human being, no matter what.
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