E-voting not in Crispin Miller's article; what links should we send him?

[Amaryllis]

and Harper's? The August Harper's cover story, "None Dare Call It Stolen," was adapted from Crispin MIller's forthcoming book "Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the Election of 2004, and Why They Will Keep Doing It (Unless We Stop Them)" to be published by Basic Books this October.

I haven't read the article yet, which just hit the news stands, but a friend did and told me there is only one mention of e-voting. Something about 2500 votes being moved from K to B on a machine.

What article links should we send Crispin Miller and Harper's, requesting an article that covers this issue, and particularly addresses the scanners and tabulators, since so many seem to focus only on voting machines and overlook this most crucial element?

I am very surprised that he could have investigated this issue and written an article on it without covering electronic elections. Does anyone know if he knows?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=384834&mesg_id=384834

[Amaryllis]

1. This MIchael Keefer artticle would be a good one to send him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x385358

[Boredtodeath]

2. Whoa! Hold ON!

I happen to know (from working with him) that his upcoming book has lots of evoting research from around the country.

He's all over this issue. Don't attack him for an article that met a specific criteria laid out by the publisher.

[Amaryllis]

3. The idea was NEVER to attack him! I asked if anyone knew if he knew, and

if, as you say, clearly if he does, then we need to focus on sending info to Harpers, and asking them to have him do a follow up on this article where he focuses on the electronic issue.

[Amaryllis]

4. So Miller knows, this means we need to write Harpers and ask them

to have him do a follow up on e-voting and vote counting.

http://www.newsfrombabylon.com/index.php?q=node/4326

[Fly by night]

5. I have read the article and it has MANY mentions of e-voting problems.

About 40+ column inches worth, with multiple examples of different e-voting problems in the election and the recount from Butler, Cuyahoga, Franklin, Miami, Perry, Mercer, Lucas, Hamilton, Mahoning, Hocking, Lorain, Muskingum, Clark, Harrison, Guernsey, Union, Monroe, Fairfield, Washington and Belmont counties (almost none of which Brazile was able to find for her "move on, nothing to see here" whitewash report.) Your friend needs a new pair of reading glasses.

You will enjoy the article -- a comprehensive review of the 2004 election theft in Ohio and a slow roast of the American corporate media for ignoring enough evidence (including e-voting, voter intimidation, disenfranchisement, dirty tricks, etc.) to choke a herd of elephants.

Tell everyone you know to go out and buy this issue NOW. We need to support Harper's and MCM for their "reality-based" view of the election theft and for their position that the formerly brave American media has a responsibility (indeed, a patriotic duty) to report on it. They definitely deserve our support for putting this story on the newsstand (and prominently on their cover).

Guess what, Turd Blossom -- some of us are not getting over it. And some of us continues to include what's left of a responsible, inquiring media. First Vanity Fair, now Harper's. Next?

(How about it, Rolling Stone, NYT, WP, CT? You truly have nothing better to do.)

If anyone can post Mark Crispin Miller's and Harper's email addresses, we all need to write them with thanks for a very comprehensive, readable and persuasive article. I look forward to his book.

[Fly by night]

6. Haven't found MCM's email address, but here is Harper's.

[e-mail].

I will be writing them a "thank you" letter later tonight and will post it. If anyone (BoredToDeath?) has MCM's email address, please post it. Both he and Harper's deserve all of us buying the magazine and thanking them loudly for their journalistic good sense to recognize the most important story of the past century about our (barely breathing) body politic.

[Boredtodeath]

7. Why not visit his blog?

Folks, I do have his email address, but I can't give it out without asking for permission.

His blog is at http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com and you can leave comments there. Perhaps that would be a better approach than putting his email address on a public message board.

[Boredtodeath]

8. Here's his Harper's entry on the blog

http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2005/07/none-dare-call-it-stolen.html

[Fly by night]

9. Thanks for the link -- I will visit and thank him.

[Stephanie]

20. please don't post his address

the blog is better

[Fly by night]

10. Close to 50 column inches on e-voting in article (fills 2+ of 8 pages)

[Bill Bored]

11. He is doing a hell of a job and we're all very proud of him

no matter what you say Amaryllis! :)

[Amaryllis]

12. Hold on there, Bill. What is this "no matter what I say?" I said in my

original post that I hadn't read it and was going on what a friend had told me. Did you even read my post three in answer to your post two?

The friend who told me about the article is very new to this, and don't think he probably even recognized the parts about electronic voting issues in the article. I will talk to him about this.

I have subsequently read the article and it is excellent. I still think that while HArpers and Miller deserve a much praise, which I will write and give them, it would be a great idea to ask Harpers to have him or someone else do a follow up on the electronic issue. It is a whole issue in and of itself. Did you ever read Ronnie Dugger's article in the NAtion last August, "How They Could Steal the Election THis Time?" I am going to reference that when I write.

[Bill Bored]

13. Take it easy!

I used a smiley because I was kidding you.

And I didn't write post #2 either.

[Amaryllis]

14. Sorry, didn't pick up that you were kidding. I think Mark is great too.

And I just remembered the "bored" in the second post...

[Bill Bored]

15. Yes she and I went to different schools together.They were both boring! nt

[Amaryllis]

16. Is bored to death a she? you can't tell on some of these screen names.

[Bill Bored]

17. Not sure really. nt

[IndyOp]

18. Amaryllis - You will like this -

MCM during the forum says that THE reason why election fraud 2004 differs from previous small potatoes election fraud is because evoting allows massive cheating!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

I just found the MP3 of the "What Went Wrong in Ohio" forum at <http://www.harpers.org/WhatWentWrongInOhio.html >. Crispin is the second speaker (just after Representative Tubbs Jones).

On July 21, 2005 Harper's Magazine hosted a forum on voter rights as they related to the 2004 federal election. The forum was held at the U.S. Capitol, and was moderated by Harper's Publisher Rick MacArthur. The panelists were John Conyers, Jr., Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Sherrod Brown, Eleanor Clift, and Mark Crispin Miller. Miller's piece “None Dare Call it Stolen” appears in the August 2005 issue of Harper's Magazine.

[Amaryllis]

19. Thanks! That's great. Gotta get that message out clearly. So how about

requests to Harpers asking for a follow up on that aspect? It didnt' come across clearly in article; my friend who is new to all this missed it. You almost have to beat people over the head with it; it can get missed in the midst of so much documentation in so many different areas. It was a GREAT article, but the e-voting issue is the single one is crucial to making all the other reforms work.