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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:43 AM
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Dramatic New Charges Deepen Link Between Ohio's "Coingate,"


Dramatic New Charges Deepen Link Between Ohio's "Coingate," Voinovich Mob Connections, and the Theft of the 2004 Election


by Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman

http://www.opednews.com

COLUMBUS -- New charges filed against Ohio Governor Bob Taft's former top aide have blazed a new trail between "Coingate" and the GOP theft of the 2004 presidential election.

...snip

The new charges against Taft's former aide are at the edge of Coingate's links to Bush, Voinovich and organized crime. Through Noe's wife Bernadette, those links extend to the GOP theft of Ohio 2004.

...snip

A very public high roller, Mifsud openly bragged of alleged ties to the CIA. He also claimed membership in the secretive Knights of Malta, running the Maltese American Foundation. The Knights and the CIA have been accused in various news reports of working together in covert operations around the globe.

...snip

Mifsud's own autobiography claimed service in "military intelligence" with the United States Air Force between 1966-1970. Columbus Alive revealed in an award-winning article that Mifsud was indeed the key player in spending millions of Ohio tax dollars to bring the CIA-affiliated drug-running Southern Air Transport airline to Columbus in 1995.

...snip

At one school polling station the voting machines were locked in the office of the principal, who called in sick. The Gesu School in West Toledo temporarily ran out of ballots. There were huge lines, missing ballots and technical anomalies associated with the leased Diebold Optical-Scan voting tabulators. Lucas County BOE Director Paula Hicks-Hudson admitted that the Diebold machines had jammed during the previous week's testing, but the BOE did not bother to fix them for the election.



More: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bob_fitr_050731_dramatic_new_charges.htm


I can't fit enough of the important parts in here. You really need to read the entire article.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:45 AM
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1. Thanks for posting n/t
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:03 AM
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2. Maybe it wasn't threats, and powerplays
that caused Voinovich to cry over the Bolton nomination. Was it a crook recognizing a fellow crook?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:08 AM
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3. Ok. How long before some apologist for the republicans comes along
and tells us to just get over it, we really lost?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:52 AM
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6. OK--Just get over it. We really lost. It makes us Look Bad
to keep whining about Ohio and how they stole the election from us.

Pardon me. I gotta go puke now.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:23 PM
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18. Welcome to 2004 ERD. Where you been for the past nine months?
We get you drive-by "move on"ers occasionally and our advice is always the same. Read something (anything) that has been posted on this forum since the election. Read Conyers, read Fitrakis, read Mark Crispin Miller, read TIA, read Freeman... Jesus, read anything remotely involved in the 2004 election theft.

Or barring that, kindly take your "move on" bush-wa back to whatever forum you've accumulated 1,000+ posts on. It certainly isn't here.

Peace out.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:26 PM
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19. Um, Fly, he said he had to go puke now.
It was sarcasm, right?
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:55 PM
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26. I re-read post #3, and you're right. Mea culpa.
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 08:01 PM by Fly by night
I've been wrong before, so chalk up another one.

(Yes I have... but only a time or two.)
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:14 AM
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4. That is an EVIL GAME
they have been playing!


:kick:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:32 AM
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5. Lucas County OH
Had 85 to 99% voter turn out in republican suburbs but
ONLY 39% in Toledo and in some union suburbs.

I wonder how the search for the missing white women is going?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:35 PM
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24. Here is some INTERESTING facts regarding '04 election in Lucas:
Notable info from the SOS Investigation on Lucas county:

-One-half of the ballots printed and used in the 2004 general election in Lucas county were stored in an open space on the fhird floor of the county warehouse with no security measures in place.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation on Lucas County BOE page 4



-Live ballots were delivered to polling locations a week in advance of the election. Although the ballots were retrieved, one board employee who was assigned to the warehouse informed the SOS staff that he did not believe all the ballots were successfully retrieved.
SOURCE; SOS Investigation, page 5



-Lucas County BOE failed to record or retrieve ballot stub numbers of absentee voters’ ballots as required by statute OH Revised Code 3505.23. It was reported by an elector that her mother had received not one, but three absentee voter ballots. there was no way to determine if similar incidents occurred and if so how many.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, page 7




-October 4, 2004 was filing deadline for new voter registrations. At that point there were approximately 20,000 unprocessed voter registration applications with less than a month before the election. One mail tray containing 4,500-7,000 (estimates vary) unprocessed “Project Voter” registrations were discovered on or about October 18,2004.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 10

***Of interest here is information obtained from the SOS website entitled ElectionsVoter/results 2003 and 2004 which show the # of registered voters number change from ‘03-’04 was 11,947 in Lucas County: reg voters 2003 in Lucas=288,190 ; registered voter in 2004=300,137.



-In late September or early October an employee of the Ohio Republican Party contacted Sam Thurber (*involved with politician wife Maggie Thurber in Noe scandal.) wanting to inspect and have copies made of all recently returned voter registrations, Ohio Republican Party offered to furnish volunteers to assist with copying postcards. No one at the Lucas County BOE can confirm that anyone was assigned to supervise Republican volunteers. On their second day of copying, a BOE employee, Jennifer Bernath, Democratic Booth Official) saw republican party volunteers peeling off the yellow return stickers applied by the post office. (Violation of RC 149.43 (B) (I) , and agruably a violation of 149.351.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, pgs 18-19

*Among those whose donations have caught the attention of investigators are:

City Councilman Betty Shultz; former state representative Sally Perz, her husband, Joe, and her daughter, Allison; former county elections director Joe Kidd; county Auditor Larry Kaczala and his wife, Gina; County Commissioner Maggie Thurber and her husband, Sam; and two of Mr. Noe’s co-workers at Vintage Coins and Collectibles, partner Tim Lapointe and executive assistant Susan Metzger. Mr. Lapointe’s wife, Linda, also donated.

All of the above gave the campaign $2,000 except the Thurbers; each of them gave $1,950 to the campaign. The $23,900 in donations were made between Oct. 30 and Nov. 5, 2003.

Path of donations At issue is whether Mr. Noe gave people money in order for them to give to the Bush campaign, allowing Mr. Noe to exceed federal spending limits, law-enforcement sources said.
Source:
Toledo Blade - FBI Raids GOP Donor Noe's Condo
Friday, April 29, 2005




-The Swanton 3 poll book turned up missing and has never been recovered.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 16


-The number of precincts in Lucas County for the November 2003 election was 530 precincts, at the time of the November 2, 2004 election there were 495 prec
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:01 AM
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7. I Googled "knights of malta cia"
http://www.geocities.com/newworldorder_themovie/cia.html

There are other links but there is only so much head-exploding information I can digest at one time.

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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:34 AM
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8. I followed your link and did a little googling and found this, which is
really weird. Some people believe Pat Buchanan is a member of this group.

KNIGHTS OF MALTA


18 May 1996

17 May 1996 David Moore This is the first reference I have heard to the fact that Pat Buchanan is a member of the Knights of Malta. Much information has been posted on that subject. What follows are all of the posts in my files pertaining to Buchanan and the Knights of Malta.

* * * * *
From Who's Who in America, 1995 Edition, p. 496: -- excerpts:
Buchanan, Patrick Joseph, journalist. b. Washington, Nov. 2, 1938:.....Named Knight of Malta, 1987......



* * * * *

==> From: An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences," etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty-Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95:
"This Order, which at various times in the progress of its history received the names of Knights Hospitalers, Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of Rhodes, and lastly, Knights of Malta, was one of the most important of the religious and military orders of knighthood which sprang into existence during the Crusades which were instituted for the recovery of the Holy Land. It owes its origin to the Hospitalers of Jerusalem, that wholly religious and charitable Order which was established at Jerusalem, in 1048, by pious merchants of Amalfi for the succor of poor and distressed Latin pilgrims....


"The Organization of the Order in its days of prosperity was very complicated, partaking of both a monarchial and a republican character. Over all presided a Grand Master, who, although invested with extensive powers, was still controlled by the legislative action of the General Chapter....

"...There are now two bodies-one Catholic and the other Protestant, but each repudiates the other....
"The degree of Knight of Malta is conferred in the United States as "an appendant Order" in a Commandery of Knights Templar. There is a ritual attached to the degree, but very few are in possession of it, and it is generally communicated after the candidate has been created a Knights Templar...."


The Knights of Malta are the militia of the Pope, and are sworn to total obedience by a blood oath which is taken extremely seriously and to the death. The Pope as the head of the Vatican is also the head of a foreign national power.

This has virtually nothing to do with the Roman Catholic religion, and everything to do with being a participant in one of the four major "player-organizations" for world domination-those players being British Freemasonry, French Freemasonry, International Zionism, and the Vatican.

More: http://www.cephasministry.com/freemasonry_knights_of_malta.html
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:10 PM
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11. Wow on Buchanan
I'm guessing he became part of this in his Nixon days?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:14 PM
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13. I'm clueless on this.
Here is another link, but I just can't buy into this.

http://www.nndb.com/org/433/000053274/
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:12 PM
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12. Something else with this group
This really pointed out at me: <He fails to mention that many of these bankers and lawyers were ardent political and financial supporters of the Nazis - who were perceived as an ally against the ideology of communism - regardless of their methods and beliefs.>

Do you think Prescott Bush was apart of this? Any records of him? We all know he gave money to Hitler and made fundings and was a Nazi. There are even official records.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:19 PM
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15. It's just so mind-boggling.
And it seems like the final outcome of their competition for world domination will end in total destruction. Perhaps the idea of Armageddon is the recognition that the struggle for complete power by elites can only end in everyone losing. :-(

Are the four major "player-organizations" the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:08 PM
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10. I know what you mean
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 12:09 PM by FreedomAngel82
When I first learned about PNAC and saw Moore's F911 film and got into researching everything it's sooo overwhelming indeed. You don't want to believe it but it makes sense with everything that has happened. And like some others have said here on DU it's strange you find yourself siding with the CIA. Reading through this is amazing. It makes sense of why President Eisenhower left his warning! He knew these people.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:06 PM
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9. I knew they were both connected!
I had this strong feeling they were both connected. With these people you ALWAYS follow the money. In a thread in GD someone posted about coverage on a local news show and they linked Voinovich to it. He gave Noe the money and it all went from there. He's way in on it for sure. He knows a lot of dirty stuff I'm sure. Everything is connected with these people. You uncover one thing you'd uncover the rest.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:14 PM
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14. This is really scary too
<The introduction of concentration camps complete with Nazi Swastikas saw hundreds of thousands of indigenous peoples and political opponents tortured and murdered. Democracy movements were brutally smashed by these fascist governments who were backed by the CIA. Weapons, financial aid, and even American troops were given in support under the guise of fighting communism. The "School of the Americas" is an infamous CIA training school were many South American military personnel are still taught torture techniques.> (Knights of Malta)
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:36 PM
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16. This article also appears in:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:06 PM
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17. Just as scary as the STOLEN ELECTION has been the lack of investigation
I mean a TOTAL lack of investigation by the media, the government, and even the Democrats! The stolen election phenomenon is like having a crazy uncle in the family. Everyone knows it's a reality, but nobody wants to talk about it. :shrug:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:39 PM
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25. Don't worry, the stolen election has been documented and is in the hands
of Rep Conyers.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:51 PM
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20. Thanks for the post!
Summer's over....tomorrow's almost here!

:hi:

Bama
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:02 PM
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21. I'm back in tomorrow!
:cry:

I just can't believe it's over? :hi: I've enjoyed hanging out here too much to go back to school.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:22 PM
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23. I know what you mean!...n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:47 PM
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22. "Republican Thieves" part one "COINGATE"
There are so many Republican scandals in Ohio we have been forced to set up separate pages for each one. This page deals with the Noe Coin Con. This page also includes the Bush-Cheney fundraiser scandal — again featuring Mr. Noe and his Republican cronies.


Click here to see Tom Noe’s Federal Campaign Contributions

The Toledo Blade Is Doing What The News Media Is Supposed To Do. Click Here for full coverage of the Noe Coin Con by the Toledo Blade

Noe Scandal timeline as of Saturday, May 29, 2005 (See below for latest news)
“Events in the unfolding scandal involving the Ohio Bureau of Workers’ Compensation’s $50 million investment in two rare-coin funds controlled by Maumee coin dealer Thomas W. Noe:

1998 * May — The bureau selects Noe as one of 28 emerging managers and one of three alternative-investment managers and invests $25 million with him to buy and sell rare coins.

2001 * June — The bureau invests $25 million more with Noe, despite concerns from internal bureau auditors about a lack of controls, Noe’s investments in real-estate and other noncoin assets, and possible conflicts of interest.

2003 * October — Two state-owned coins valued at $300,000 are reported stolen in the mail at a Colorado subsidiary of Noe’s.

2004 * September — External auditors report that 119 coins worth $93,000 from Colorado cannot be located. Auditors say Noe suspects a former employee of ”misappropriation of assets.”

2005 * April 3 — The Blade of Toledo publishes the first article detailing questions about the coin investment. Bureau officials and Gov. Bob Taft strongly defend the deal, saying it has made money.

http://www.ohiohonestelections.org/index.php?p=republic...

This is really long but since it was revealed today that JEAN SCHMIDT knows TOM NOE! It's important for the voter's of Ohio's 2nd district to know as much about JEAN'S FRIEND, TOM NOE as possible.




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