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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:27 PM
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NY Times reporters probably hold key to proving Kerry victory in Ohio
In recent weeks I've posted three threads in this forum dealing with different stages of my assessment of the huge discrepancies between Ohio voter registration figures reported by a couple of journalists from the New York Times, as compared with official figures released by Kenneth Blackwell's office.

Along the way, I have been helped in this evaluation by the provision of additional information by DUers in response to my posts.

It now appears to me that the journalists (Ford Fessenden and Kate Zernike, and possibly others as well) who produced these reports probably have information in their hands that would prove that Kerry won Ohio.

Though I have written to the New York Times in an attempt to contact these journalists I have not received a response from them after about two weeks.

Because nobody who read my threads from this forum appears to know how to contact these journalists, I have now posted a compilation of my assessment of this issue in the General Discussion - Politics Forum. That thread provides an overview of my reasons for believing that these reporters have information that could prove that Kerry won Ohio, and reiterates my request for assistance in locating those reporters: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1974460
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:45 PM
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1. Good luck and I hope you get the information.
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 04:46 PM by autorank
Take a look at Judy Miller and the lengths the paper will go to publish lies and suppress the truth. If they have not produced it thusfar, I'd have to think that doing it now would be a zero sum game...but enough of my negativism. I truly hope you get the information. I'll look at the thread and see if there's anything I can contribute to this.

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:31 PM
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5. Thanks autorank -- we need all the help we can get n/t
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 04:48 PM
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2. Try calling them on the phone directly...
That's what I would do.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:32 PM
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6. I'll do that tomorrow
It's worth a try.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 05:08 PM
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3. Getting a NYT staff directory
If you send an email to directory@nytimes.com or staff@nytimes.com their auto-emailer should send you back a list of the email addresses of every staff member on the New York Times. Have fun making sure that more than one person at the NYT sees your email!! (only appropriate addressees of course)
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:33 PM
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7. They sent me the list, but for some reason those reporters aren't listed
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:45 PM
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4. Isn't Matt Taibbai supposed have an article out?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:34 PM
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8. He does have an article out, but I haven't seen it.
Does he address any of the issues that I've discussed here?
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:51 PM
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9. Please DON'T nominate this thread any more
This is just a cross post to make people in this forum aware of the main thread, which I posted in GD-P in order to get additional coverage, in the hope that someone there would be able to get me in touch with the reporters. But I don't think that it's a good idea for us to have two similar posts on the greatest page at the same time. The mods might think that we're over-doing it.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:53 PM
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10. This may seem quaint, but have you tried calling them on the phone? nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:13 PM
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11. As I said above, I'll do that
It doesn't seem to me likely to work, but you're right, it's worth a try.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:03 PM
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12. UPDATE -- Good news -- for now
Someone just pm'd me with the address and phone numbers of the two reporters. She obtained them from switchboard.com, which I had never heard of before.

I feel that it is best to start off with a letter, rather than a cold phone call. So my plan is to send both reporters a letter, wait about two weeks, and call them if I don't hear from them.

I will get this letter in the mail this afternoon:

Dear Mr. Fessenden/Ms. Zernike,

I am writing to you as a concerned American citizen.

When George W. Bush won Ohio in last year’s Presidential election I was very surprised, given various reports I had heard about the political situation in Ohio, especially your excellent September 26th, 2004 report in the New York Times, “A Big Increase of New Voters in Swing States”.

Consequently I have extensively studied the Ohio election, and eventually I came to the conclusion that the new voter registration situation for Ohio depicted in your article was not consistent with a Bush victory in Ohio. So I then checked the official Ohio voter registration figures listed on the Ohio Secretary of State’s web site, and I found that those figures are most inconsistent with the situation depicted in your article. I would be happy to share with you my analyses that led to these conclusions if you wish, but for now I want to make this a short letter.

I hope that you can understand my concern about this, especially given the strenuous efforts of high level Ohio officials to prevent a recount of the vote, and their refusal to cooperate in efforts to investigate the election.

In order to help me and my fellow citizens understand what happened in this election, with the goal of learning how to prevent this sort of thing from happening in the future, I would greatly appreciate it if I could speak to you about this. Could you please e-mail me at XXX or call me at XXX at your earliest convenience?

Sincerely,
XXX

I need to add, however, that I would still very much appreciate it if anyone who knows these reporters would help me out -- I am not terribly confident of getting a good response to this.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:44 AM
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13. If they don't respond go to the Ombudsman (they have their own name for it
like readers representative. The former rep took a six week vacation during the summer of 2004 election but there's a new one and he's reasonable. You have a right to the informaiton, well, we do. I see where you're going with this, I think and it makes a lot of sense.

Here's how to contact him, Byron Calame. If you don't get a response, he could help.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/thepubliceditor/index.html

Here's one of his articles. The first sentence will give you a chuckle.

Read the first sentence while thinking of Judith Miller
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 07:32 AM
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14. Thank you, if I can't contact them by other means I will try Byron Calame
How about this quote, from his column: "If a reply is appropriate you will hear from us shortly". Hmmmm, that seems to allow quite a bit of wiggle room.

When I tried your second link I got a message saying that the article was unavailable.

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