Wouldn't we gain credence if the Election Fraud groups all joined forced?

[cyberpj]

My own favorites folder contains 11 separate sites and I know, from staying in touch with this forum, that there are many many more that have valuable claims and evidence.

Doesn't it make sense that both the groups and the claims and the evidence would have much more power if they united into one huge National Group?

I have the exact same feelings about the 9/11 groups.

I just don't understand why people keep creating and maintaining all these small separate entities that can be shot down or ignored one at a time.

THE POWER COMES WITH THE SIZE THAT CAN NO LONGER BE IGNORED.

Thoughts?

[Comandante_Subzero]

1. Org Proliferation

The same is true of many forums & other activist sites...vvaw, ivaw,
vaiw, etc...why not one prog national newspaper for example, & buying a TV station? Why does only the Right do these things? Sure, they have more money but we're not broke either.

[cyberpj]

2. I had the same thought - the the Repubs and ultra right do this well...

Everything about Dems and Dem issues seems scattered across the landscape with energies divided by too many groups.

It's really frustrating to me.

[cyberpj]

3. And hey! Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[jillan]

4. I wish the Dnc would join with Move on! and others!

Like PDA, DSSC..
they are all working for the same goal. They are all begging for contributions.

1 party united to include those on the very left all the way thru the moderates.

I know we are more to the very left, but it shouldn't matter.
Then we could make our voices known in one place.
I was hoping Dean would do this when he took over the DNC. I know he is doing alot for the states right now. We need unity. Strength in numbers.

[jen4clark]

5. Exactly right!!

I've always been frustrated by this as well cyberpj! Same thing happens with all the "action alerts" on issues of the day - I'll get 4 or 5 emails from different groups to sign a petition for the same thing... Wish I had a solution for how to get us all together.

[cyberpj]

7. Unfortunately, like Repubs, it has to come down from the top -

The big guys have to go out there and gather in the little guys - sort of like corporate takeovers.

Because FIRST YOU FIND WHAT YOU CAN AGREE ON AND THEN AGREE TO GO AFTER THAT THING TOGETHER!

Each group has to agree on the priorites of the greater good for a change instead of too much self-interest.

DNC should be making those overtures with this same explanation.

[helderheid]

6. I say Dean consolidates them all and takes it on as a DNC issue

only half joking

[cyberpj]

8. Yep!

I just posted that same thought above before I read your post...

Unfortunately, like Repubs, it has to come down from the top -

The big guys have to go out there and gather in the little guys - sort of like corporate takeovers.

Because FIRST YOU FIND WHAT YOU CAN AGREE ON AND THEN AGREE TO GO AFTER THAT THING TOGETHER!

Each group has to agree on the priorites of the greater good for a change instead of too much self-interest.

DNC should be making those overtures with this same explanation.

(not joking at all)

[sunnystarr]

9. I was typing your thoughts earlier today when a t-storm

caused the power to go off and on and poof all my words were gone. It was part of an appeal to get really organized since we seem to expend time, resources, and donations in too many places that replicate the process - and spin our wheels for a short term fuzzy that doesn't achieve the goal.

While the internet brings us all together, we are spread out over so many sites and lose effectiveness. Maybe a coalition led by the activists who are leading the crusade on individual organization sites, who will work together and organize.

[Bill Bored]

10. I agree, except that a lot of this stuff has to be done at the state/local

level. That information should be shared, but there are still 50 sets of election laws to deal with + DC, and hundreds or thousands of local BoE regulations.

But you have a point. It took me weeks to figure out who to give $25 to last November to help with recounts! That is not acceptable.

Many people donated to Bev Harris's group only to have buyers' remorse.

Maybe there needs to be consumer protection for election protection!

This place, now linked to from the domain <http://electionfraud.net>, really could serve as a clearinghouse for all this stuff, but there are many who don't come here for various reasons.

Needless duplication of effort certainly doesn't make sense though.