These are audio links to Thom Hartmann and Paul Lehto's presentation in Portland on "The Corporate Takeover of America's Elections."
This will knock your socks off. I have been immersed in election fraud/reform for over a year now, and I was continually astounded by their superb ability to frame the issue in its simplest terms. These will help you in talking to people about the issues, or writing letters, or articles, or whatever. Many excellent sound bites in here.
I copied some quotes, but you HAVE TO JUST LISTEN TO THIS! I could transcribe the whole hour; it’s incredible stuff. Brilliant. They complement each other so well; it’s like they did a Vulcan mind meld. They both are so knowledgeable about history, the law, the constitution, and they are both expert framers of the issue. Whoever listens to this, please pick our your favorite quotes and post.
Thom concludes with this: “The vote should be ours; we should hold the vote, there should not be for profit corporations inserted between us and our vote and our government and our elected officials.” At one point in the Q and A, someone asked Thom, “How do I talk to people about this? It’s so complex.” Thom said no, it isn’t complex at all; it’s very simple, and basically repeated this statement, or some variation: It is an outrage that for profit corporations have inserted themselves between us and our vote..
Thom: The vote is the heartbeat of democracy.
Paul talks about the Snohomish County study and the lawsuit, but primarly uses is as a framework to make his points about the bigger picture.
Lehto: Elections are all about power transfer and money transfer. The people who administer those elections are a select few government representatives who then keep those ballots secret. It’s virtually impossible to get your hands on those ballots and count them for yourself. The best way to think about it is, “I have no basis for confidence in our elections.” What can you do? You can say all day every day that we have no basis for confidence and there is nothing that anyone can say that’s based in fact that can take you off that track because it’s a 100% accurate position.
If you’re in the position of trying to prove something, the burden of proof is on you and the other side is going to pick away at your little facts and keep saying, “That doesn’t convince me.” The big picture is that the elections in the US have no credibility.
Given power and money are being transferred here and that this is the sole super power and the wealthiest nation on earth, and our history of wars and assassinations, is it conceivable that an individual or group of individuals may want to do something non-violent (to do a money and power grab)?
Reasonable people leave open the possibility that something may be going on. Unreasonable people condemn reasonable people as conspiracy theorists. This word conspiracy has developed this aura of unlikelihood.
On another level, it’s not really relevant whether someone purposely threw the election; the numbers are off. The wrong candidate was elected. Intent is only relevant in the law as to whether it’s criminal or not. In terms of the integrity of our democracy it doesn’t matter whether it’s malfunction or someone deliberately hacked the computers, it’s all the same. The data is wrong and there’s no basis for any confidence in that data.
Not only does the emperor have no clothes, he has no wardrobe and he lives in a glass house.
Democracy dies in secret.
The voters of America are blindfolded, and therefore impotent, but only until you realize you're not impotent.
I could quote the whole thing! It’s that good.
Thom Hartmann...about 33 minutes
www.PhilosopherSeed.org/realaudio/thartman.ram
www.PhilosopherSeed.org/mp3/thartman.mp3
Paul Lehto....about 32 minutes
www.PhilosopherSeed.org/realaudio/plehto.ram
www.PhilosopherSeed.org/mp3/plehto.mp3
Thanks to Amaryllis here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x388978