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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:30 AM
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WTF! 100% Bush 2000 voter turnout and 73% Gore turnout in 2004?
Edited on Tue Aug-16-05 08:33 AM by TruthIsAll
To believe that Bush won by 3 million votes, then you must believe that 27% (13 million) of Gore voters decided to stay home and EVERY Bush 2000 voter came to vote.

Do you believe in Intelligent Design?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x367600
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:36 AM
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1. Otherwise known as...
News from Planet OH RIGHT SURE!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:38 AM
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2. Which is the only planet where two positives equal a negative. n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:39 AM
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3. thanks
you also have to believe that 19,000 votes got loaded into the voter data
in Miami County, Ohio after the polls were closed and the machines were
turned off at the exact same ratio as the previously recorded votes.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 08:46 AM
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4. It would be interesting to see some breakdowns
of voter registration...how many registered, which party they declared, and how of many newsly registered also voted.

I know during the run-up, one of the segments were the 18-25(?) year olds. "Analysts" were saying Kerry had more of this youth vote than Bush, but Bush was doing 'surprisingly' well. They also were saying that these are the same people who don't show up at the polls on election day.

Given the shenanigans with voter registrations, e.g. signing a petition supporting marijuana legalization that changed party declaration, it's not a 'suprise' Bush had gained ground in that segment. But I also read accounts of many of these voters finding they were unable to cast their vote due to registration problems (dirty tricks).

On the one hand, I think people should be responsible and make certain they are registered with plenty of time to spare in case steps need to be taken to register again. Also, I think people should verify with absolute certainty where they can vote and document where that information came from. That said, questionable events took place that would have prevented them from voting at worst, or placed numerous obstacles that only a determined voter would overcome.

The bottom line is: Yes, I believe they stole it.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 09:08 AM
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5. 2 recent articles
http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html
by a Cal Poly prof

And find the Harpers article "None Dare Call it Stolen"

250% increase in democratic area voters
25% increase in republican area voters
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-16-05 11:05 PM
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6. Truth -
without media coverage, is just a concept. I still believe in it, though. Intelligent Design, however, only makes me think of Attila, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot, and like every stinking member of the Bush Family. Intelligent Design? Nah.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 12:00 AM
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7. kick.nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 02:46 AM
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8. Actually, I believe that Election 2004 was an "intelligent design" and
Edited on Fri Aug-19-05 03:40 AM by autorank
a damn good one.  Unlike the 2000 fiasco when it almost
slipped away, the troops were deployed and well instructed in
2004.  There were questionable and incredible results across
the country.  An example of high speed, random Darwinian
evolution.  I think not, more likely an "intelligent
design" to steal Election 2004.  When does a coincidence
theory become so laughable that those advancing it seem like
they're part of the conspiracy even when they're not?  How
about right now.

The assumptions necessary to believe that Bush wan are legion.
 The arguments to support his victory are the only transparent
thing about Election 2004.

We are at the tipping point.  The defenders of the faith-based
theory of statistical and behavioral analysis are about to
take a quick ride down Occam's Razor.  It's not too late to
open your eyes to see and use your ears to hear the truth.

Take a look at how the states break out.  This is not the
stuff that inspires you to see * as having won in 2004.  Did
this just occur ex nihilo?  Or by coincidence? Or through the
influence of the evil "liberal media?"  No.  Itt's
the unvarnished reflection of the true status of * and
company.  This poll has shown him down for months.  Now,
look...

(btw, If I were in the WH, I'd have a special nightmare
tonight when I saw how close the weighted and unweighted
averages are.  Goodness me, the spiral down is across the
board...

From the great DU user BamaLeftie's post in GD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4390515&mesg_id=4390515
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(Released 08/16/05) http://surveyusa.com/50StatePOTUS0805.htm	

APPROVAL RATING FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH   	
SORTED ALPHABETICALLY BY STATE   	
		                  08/05 	Net 08/05
http://surveyusa.com/50StatePOTUS0805.htm	
# 	State 	      '04 ECV  Apprv.   Dis. 	Net
1 	Alabama 	Bush 	52% 	45% 	7% 	
2 	Alaska 	````````Bush 	46% 	49% 	-3% 	
3 	Arizona 	Bush 	45% 	52% 	-7% 	
4 	Arkansas 	Bush 	40% 	56% 	-16% 	
5 	California 	Kerry 	32% 	62% 	-30% 	
6 	Colorado 	Bush 	45% 	53% 	-8% 	
7 	Connecticut 	Kerry 	33% 	62% 	-29% 	
8 	Delaware 	Kerry 	32% 	64% 	-32% 	
9 	Florida 	Bush 	44% 	53% 	-9% 	
10 	Georgia 	Bush 	47% 	51% 	-4% 	
11 	Hawaii 	        Kerry 	43% 	49% 	-6% 	
12 	Idaho 	        Bush 	59% 	36% 	23% 	
13 	Illinois 	Kerry 	38% 	57% 	-19% 	
14 	Indiana 	Bush 	48% 	49% 	-1% 	
15 	Iowa 	        Bush 	42% 	55% 	-13% 	
16 	Kansas 	        Bush 	46% 	50% 	-4% 	
17 	Kentucky 	Bush 	42% 	53% 	-11% 	\
18 	Louisiana 	Bush 	48% 	48% 	0% 	
19 	Maine 	        Kerry 	40% 	58% 	-18% 	
20 	Maryland 	Kerry 	34% 	62% 	-28% 	
21 	Massachusetts 	Kerry 	32% 	64% 	-32% 	
22 	Michigan 	Kerry 	38% 	58% 	-20% 	
23 	Minnesota 	Kerry 	39% 	59% 	-20% 	
24 	Mississippi 	Bush 	49% 	47% 	2% 	
25 	Missouri 	Bush 	38% 	58% 	-20% 	
26 	Montana 	Bush 	50% 	45% 	5% 	
27 	Nebraska 	Bush 	55% 	42% 	13% 	
28 	Nevada 	        Bush 	40% 	57% 	-17% 	
29 	New Hampshire 	Kerry 	42% 	55% 	-13% 	
30 	New Jersey 	Kerry 	35% 	61% 	-26% 	
31 	New Mexico 	Bush 	41% 	56% 	-15% 	
32 	New York 	Kerry 	34% 	62% 	-28% 	
33 	North Carolina 	Bush 	47% 	47% 	0% 	
34 	North Dakota 	Bush 	51% 	45% 	6% 	
35 	Ohio 	        Bush 	37% 	60% 	-23% 	
36 	Oklahoma 	Bush 	50% 	46% 	4% 	
37 	Oregon 	        Kerry 	41% 	56% 	-15% 	
38 	Pennsylvania 	Kerry 	40% 	56% 	-16% 	
39 	Rhode Island 	Kerry 	29% 	68% 	-39% 	
40 	South Carolina 	Bush 	45% 	51% 	-6% 	
41 	South Dakota 	Bush 	45% 	52% 	-7% 	
42 	Tennessee 	Bush 	43% 	52% 	-9% 	
43 	Texas 	        Bush 	54% 	43% 	11% 	
44 	Utah 	        Bush 	57% 	38% 	19% 	
45 	Vermont 	Kerry 	33% 	63% 	-30% 	
46 	Virginia 	Bush 	42% 	52% 	-10% 	
47 	Washington 	Kerry 	40% 	57% 	-17% 	
48 	West Virginia 	Bush 	45% 	51% 	-6% 	
49 	Wisconsin 	Kerry 	41% 	55% 	-14% 	
50 	Wyoming 	Bush 	58% 	38% 	20% 	
		
Weighted Average 	41% 	55% 	-14% 	  	
('Weighted Average' means each state is weighted
proportionally to its share of USA population. For example,
California, the most populated state, is given 71 times the
weight of WY the least populated state, in a weighted avg.) 	
		
Unweighted Average 	43% 	53% 	-10
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Dynasty_At_Passes Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-19-05 03:52 AM
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9. TruthIsAll have you ever looked at and read this paper?
Is this information not viable for public consumption?

http://www.answers.com/topic/2004-u-s-presidential-election-controversy-voting-machines

I see this posted in alot of places, why no spotlight on this unbelievable evidence in any of the media?
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:36 AM
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10. This info has been around forever. Nothing new. But media silence.
Edited on Sat Aug-20-05 02:37 AM by TruthIsAll
We saw posts on this history 3-4 years back.

Why is this not for public consumption?

For the same reason that the media/congress lied about Bush winning the FL recount, didn't cover the 2002 senate election fraud and won't cover the 2004 fraud.

Because they don't want clean elections.

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Dynasty_At_Passes Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-20-05 02:49 AM
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11. But who's paying whom off?
Why is the corporate media interested in unclean, dishonest elections?

Who's paying who off, and where is the federal investigations into this? That's the question I keep wanting an answer to.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 03:53 PM
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12. Thanks for raising this again. WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET!
Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 03:55 PM by autorank
Let's see if I can come up with a scenario to keep those 13 million voters home:

1) They actually headed for the polls but forgot where they were going and ended up in Wichita (a 'dissociative fugue').
2) When they got to Wichita, they voted by provisional ballots which were accepted but never counted.
OR
3) They were so upset by 2000 they just decided to sit home.
OR
4) They were so upset by 2000 they wanted to vote but the polls and the race were to lopsided against Kerry, they thought he had no chance.
OR
5) They decided to vote for Bush because they were so happy about the war and the destruction of Social Security and the rape of the environment (all issues that Democrats just love to support).
OR
6) NONE OF THE ABOVE because the vast majority of them did show up and vote for Kerry and the damn thing was fixed.

Extra credit for the right answer if you show your work.

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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 07:22 PM
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13. kick - In tribute to his tremendous contributions - WHY??? :( n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 10:25 PM
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14. Kicking for truth, justice, and TIA's invaluable work.
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