Diebold hires top Dem for PR blitz (former DNC chair)

[MelissaB]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4408897

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

1. This has gotten totally out of control....

Now these fraudulent election stealers are buying off democrats, or "sell out democrats" in the DLC in other words.

No wonder the DLC doesn't care about stolen elections! Look at the money in it for them, they can be elected to any position they want!

Here comes Evan Bayh for President, brought to you by corporate sellout whores of america. :puke: :puke: :puke:

I hope to god Howard Dean or someone shouts them down.

[Land Shark]

2. Unbelievably bad must reading

[autorank]

3. MelissaB thanks for the pointer. What a stunner.

I think a little E-Activism is called for...a linnk to the frigging DNC telling them to reign this guy in. Let's see what we can come up with.

[autorank]

4. MelissaB thanks for the pointer. What a stunner.

I think a little E-Activism is called for...a linnk to the frigging DNC telling them to reign this guy in. Let's see what we can come up with.

[Dynasty_At_Passes]

5. Yes way ahead of you.....

[e-mail]

http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contact/

[e-mail]

[tommcintyre]

6. Why not ask him directly, why he feels "OK" taking this job.

In his bio he claims to be a "life-long Democrat"; and he ran for Gov. of Ohio in the last election. So, I think it's very reasonable to ask him directly for an explanation - along with emailing everyone else mentioned above.

[e-mail]
202/408-5210
http://www.sonnenschein.com/attorneys/index.aspx?aid=0004475

Contact Howard Dean:
http://www.dnc.org/page/s/contact

Contact the DFA to make sure Dean gets the msg too:
http://tools.democracyforamerica.com/contactus.php

Joe Andrew is an advisor to NDN.
http://www.ndn.org/about/#Who_we_are

A list of NDN email addresses is at:
http://www.ndn.org/about/contact.html


Background info:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Joseph_J._Andrew
"Joseph J. Andrew (Joe), a member of the Advisory Board of the New Democrat Network, is <was> a candidate for Governor of Indiana.

Andrew has been a business lawyer and small business owner for years. He's directed several nonprofit organizations, and at an unusually young age, became the Indiana State Democratic Chairman.

Andrew "spearheaded successful campaigns" for Evan Bayh and Frank O'Bannon and was elected as National Chairman of the Democratic National Committee."

http://www.idsnews.com/story.php?id=18564
"Published Wednesday, October 1, 2003 Joe Andrew, Democratic candidate for governor of Indiana, spoke at the Indiana Memorial Union, Tuesday."

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=127&subid=171&contentid=955
Of course, "Joe Andrew, was a founder of the Indiana chapter of the DLC."

More info here:
http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/newsitem.asp?id=11763

and here:
http://www.leadingauthorities.com/13411/Joe_Andrew.htm
"...is a life-long Democrat ..."

[tommcintyre]

7. I just sent this info to Brad,

along with to opening post from the other thread.

Hopefully he'll run with it.

[tommcintyre]

8. FYI: Andrew STRONGLY backed Simon Rosenberg (NDN) for DNC chair

http://www.simonforchair.org/endorsements/statements/joe_andrew_letter.html
Joe Andrew's Letter to DNC Members - January 13, 2005 (extolling Rosenberg's virtues)

http://www.ndn.org/simon_rosenberg/
"Simon B. Rosenberg is President and Founder of NDN and one of the most dynamic, innovative thinkers and political strategists in America today.

Rosenberg has transformed NDN, which he founded in 1996, national membership organization which fights each day to restore the promise of America, promotes strategies to modernize progressive politics, and invests in a new generation of emerging leaders.

Before founding NDN, Rosenberg worked in a dozen states as a key member of two presidential campaigns, including for Michael Dukakis in Iowa in 1987-88 and for Bill Clinton in the New Hampshire primary and the Little Rock War Room in 1991-92. From 1993-1996, he worked at the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Leadership Council. In 2005, Simon was a leading candidate for Chair of the Democratic National Committee."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Simon_B._Rosenberg
Simon B. Rosenberg is President and Founder of the New Democrat Network (NDN). "Rosenberg has helped make NDN one of the nation's most influential political organizations. NDN has helped bring nearly 50 New Democrats to the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives, and elected New Democrats to state and local offices in 35 states."

"Rosenberg has nearly 20 years of media and political experience. In the 1980s and early 1990s, he worked as a television news writer and producer, for programs that appeared on ABC News, PBS, and various cable stations."

"He served as a key member of two Presidential campaigns, working for Michael Dukakis in Iowa in 1987-88 and for William Jefferson Clinton in the New Hampshire primary and the Little Rock War Room in 1991-92. He also worked at the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Leadership Council before founding NDN in 1996."

"Rosenberg and his work have been featured in numerous books and articles and two well-known movies about the 1992 Presidential campaign, Feed and War Room. He is a member of the Aspen Institute's 2001 Class of Henry Crown Fellows and a 1985 graduate of Tufts University."

[tommcintyre]

9. A little more info on what Andrew is all about:

http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_11/b3672071.htm
" Democrats are no better than the GOP Old Guard. In 1980, the Demo-cratic National Committee forced states into closed primaries or caucuses and sued those that didn't comply. ''No one's disenfranchised,'' insists DNC Chair Joseph J. Andrew. ''It's allowed our party to become much more unified.'' <So more DLCers win the primaries, in place of liberal Dems?>

Exactly, say RNC leaders. But what price loyalty? A 1996 survey by pollster John Zogby found only 27.5% of Republicans and 31% of Dems felt their parties reflected their views. Says Zogby: ''A party cannot exist as a conservative party or a liberal party in the U.S., especially when more and more voters are independent.''"

(Note how the RNC is in total aggreement. My research has found that it is much more about maintaining control of the respective parties; and much less about actually winning.)

[tommcintyre]

10. He weighed in on touchscreens in CA. April 23, 2004

So it looks like he's been involved in this for a while.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:Zl1BSqhWBSAJ:www.globalexchange.org/countries/unitedstates/democracy/1791.html+%22Joseph+J.+Andrew%22&hl=en
""If California decides not to have touchscreen voting, no question, I think that will have a powerful effect on the rest of the nation," said Joseph J. Andrew, former chairman of the Democratic National Committee during the 2000 Florida recount."
snip
"If you decertify DREs we will be in court the next day," he warned.

"Every single big civil-rights group, every single disability group feels differently than this panel here," Andrew said.

"We have been talking about the individual problems of an individual vendor," he said of Diebold, "but the problem is, we are making precedential decisions on electronic voting here."

[tommcintyre]

13. NYT: Andrew "condemning voting-machine paper trails"

Posted by auto over here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2023715

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/15/technology/circuits/15POGUE-EMAIL.html?ex=1124769600&en=32201339d2fe9e6c&ei=5070
July 15, 2004 (3rd page)
snip
"Yet a pro-machine speech by Joe Andrew, former chairman of the Democratic
National Party, makes an intriguing point I thought I'd pass on. (Diebold
sent the transcript to me.) It makes both parties' stances seem
counterintuitive:

"Any Democrat who thinks that getting rid of electronic voting machines
will help the Democrats win is simply out to lunch. Study after study
shows that the voters who are most likely to be helped by
are the disabled (they are not intimidated and vote independently), the
less educated (the machines are easier to read and are more like ATM's,
which almost everyone uses), lower socioeconomic groups (who trust
machines more than they trust people), the truly elderly (bigger print, no
pressure-sensitive punching or marking on small circles), and U.S.
citizens who are more comfortable voting in a language other than English
(Older Hispanics and Asian Americans). Now it doesn't take a genius, or
even a former Chair of the Democratic Party, to tell you that those are
all Democratic voters."

In the end, though, the speaker wound up condemning voting-machine paper
trails, which is where he lost me."

[tommcintyre]

14. "Andrew pooh-poohs questions about "rigged" elections as politics."

http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/voting/press/pres20040305.html
"But Joe Andrew, the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, says electronic voting is the future. Andrew pooh-poohs questions about "rigged" elections as politics.

...

But the bottom line for Andrew is that the new technology will help enfranchise disabled voters and those for whom English is not their first language."

[freedomfries]

11. Thanks for posting

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

12. he should be kicked out of Democratic Party

What an SOB, trying to make sure elections are rigged.

It is time for the grassroots Dems to speakup, and see to it that
this traitor is thrown out.

Read the Report on the Ohio Election, DREs disenfranchise voters, especially democratic ones.

What a jerk.

He has got to be kicked out, and Howard Dean better speak up.

[roseBudd]

15. maybe he is computer illiterate and has never seen an if then statement

[mod mom]

16. Let me guess DLC-DEMS who LOVE CORPORATIONS, anything for a dollar.