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sunshinekathy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 12:53 PM
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Ensure Vote Count Accuracy - in a nutshell
This one page (two-sided) handout describes practical do-able ways to ensure accurate vote counts in future U.S. elections. It is targeted to election officials. Please pass this out to your county and township election officials and county officials and push for its implementation.

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/election_officials/Audits_Monitoring.pdf


FYI, the National Election Data Archive (also US Count Votes) needs to grow its base. We only have 1,300 members of our email announcements list and $1400/month in donations and we need to have 100,000 and $20,000/month donations very soon to build the National Election Data Archive database that we've designed.

We have not had even enough to pay for our expenses and a stipend for one person yet. To successfully run a nonprofit business, and especially one with a big technical project to build takes a team of full-time people.

See our financial report here:
http://electionarchive.org/fairelection/financials1.html

See what people we need:
http://www.electionarchive.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=106&Itemid=71

Please help us/join our effort which is the most commonsense approach to fixing the integrity of elections.

Subscribe to our email announcements list and ask your friends to do the same by emailing:

election-subscribe@uscountvotes.org

We need your help!

Donate if you can:

http://www.electionarchive.org/fairelection/donate.html

Or consider joining our Board and spendoing time helping. I cannot keep trying to do the work of six people - and I'm not very good at it either.

I should be writing a response to the Election Science Institute analysis of the OH exit poll data and a history of the academic debate surrounding the exit poll discrepancies and trying to get our latest papers signed and published and write comments for the U.S. Election Assistance Commission voting system guidelines and I can't do anything effectively because instead I'm trying to get our 501-3c status, raise funds, create marketing materials, run a business, make contacts with state election directors to obtain data, etc. while I let my personal life fall apart. Plus I am the founder and leader of Utah Count Votes (see http://utahcountvotes.org) It looks like after much work we may've succeeded in stopping the state-wide adoption of Diebold DREs and that four counties (over half the state's population) will adopt a paper ballot optiscan system instead. We'll know by Sept. 9th and it's been an incredible battle with the Lt. Governor's office inventing untrue stories about me in press releases here.

Without funding, adequate supporters on our email list or help, NEDA cannot become a reality and that means we'll continue to have elections which are completely open to insider embezzlement, innocent errors and electronic failures determining the results. It takes a long time to figure out and write the papers that need to be put out.

Here is an important report I made of the recent National Association of State Election Director's Conference I attended:

http://utahcountvotes.org/NASED/PublicReport_NASS_200508.pdf

Please help.

election-subscribe@uscountvotes.org

http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/US/election_officials/Audits_Monitoring.pdf

Thanks.

Kathy Dopp
http://electionarchive.org


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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 03:26 PM
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1. Nominated.
Thanks, Kathy!

:yourock:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 04:00 PM
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2. I believe n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 06:59 PM
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3. I, too, believe
I believe that your organization is worthy of a closer look. Someone needs to get our act together, eh? Good work, Kathy.

Say, how'd you find DU, or are you a returnee? Don't mean to pry, just wondering.

Also, IIRC, it was your report about the Fla., 2004 election that was about the first to begin showing the funny numbers coming out after the election?
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sunshinekathy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 08:03 PM
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5. DU was discussing my work with US Count Votes
As I recall, I originally joined DU after the Nov 04 election because there were discussions going on here about the academic debate over the exit poll discrepancies.

However, we are never going to be able to clean up elections in America if we don't insist that our candidates never concede until after looking at the detailed election data and audit the voter verifiable paper record of ballots with hand counts.

The Green party's David Cobb was my hero after Nov's election because he stood up for the voters and the right to have our votes counted accurately and tried to obtain fair recounts in many states, after Kerry walked away.

Best,

Kathy
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 08:42 AM
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12. Thanks to you, RonB and the other stalwarts for all the fine exit poll...
work over the last 10 months. The fact that so many have made such a huge effort to detract from the exit poll discrepancy work (with such pathetically flimsy "work" of their own) has only reinforced the validity of your efforts.

Keep up the good work!
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 07:12 PM
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4. Nominated! I still believe!
In the truth.
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 08:34 PM
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6. Kick...n/t
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 10:55 PM
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7. hmm my post was in the AM-- this thread was started in the PM
SO how could I possibly answer in this thread at 9 or 10 am?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x391348
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 12:19 AM
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8. Waste no time with ESI!
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 01:14 AM by Bill Bored
Their whole argument rests on the assumption that the 2000 election in Ohio was honest, doesn't it? And what evidence is there for that exactly? None whatsoever!

And for 2004, they still found 2 precincts that had impossible WPEs (or where they alphas?) by their own admission. That's 4% of their sample precincts, right? So they may have had 4% corrupted precincts in an election with only a 2% margin. No fraud? Prove it!

In 2000, Ohio had the same ballot order rotations, punch cards without precinct codes and the same blatantly partisan Secretary of State running the election as they did in 2004. So why would that election have been any more honest or dishonest than the latter one?
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:24 AM
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9. They explained the graph wrong too!
Got the exit poll result and vote mixed up on the graph with the gray bars. Yeah, they're scientists alright. Real scientists.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 01:47 PM
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10. Yes, but Bill they're "scientists" n/t
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 04:27 AM
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11. I thank you, please keep everyone updated.
Yes those scientists in "election science institute" aren't really scientists as far as I can tell, they got numerous things mixed up and didn't cover so much as one side of the debate.

You Kathy and your people are doing great work, and know that we are behind you, some real scientists like Steve Freeman and many others are fully backing you.
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sunshinekathy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 12:15 AM
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13. Thanks for the emotional support!
I appreciate the emotional support and need it after over a year working for no salary and no one to support me - draining down the resources.

What US Count Votes (or now National Election Data Archive) really needs most now is a PR/Marketing type person to help lead that effort for us because us math nerd types have no idea how to create the marketing materials or do the fund-raising to get our project off the ground.

We need to be able to hire programmers, project manager, statistician (Ron Baiman preferably), executive director, and liaison for the 50 states' election officials. We math types are good at designing information systems like the one we need and analyzing, but not so good at marketing and fundraising that we need to do now to build the organization.

Best,

Kathy Dopp
http://electionarchive.org

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jkd Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 01:20 AM
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14. Utah's DREs
Emery County will hold strong, but Salt Lake County approved them yesterday. Wouldn't it be ironic if the Republican stronghold of Utah County was the only other county to reject the DREs. Do you think you've convinced Summit County?
I believe the only other option the Lt Governor has allowed for HAVA funds are Diebold Opti-Scans. Is that correct?
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