Wouldn't right now be a perfect time for a big break in the case?

[garybeck]

Right now it seems even the republicans are upset with Bush. On the GD forum there are many stories circulating about people who have friends who have voted republican for years and now they are done with it. They finally realized that they are liars.

Wouldn't this be the perfect time for something big to come out about the stolen election? Like a big time whistleblower, or some new evidence? I think it would be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

So if there are any potential whistle blowers out there, who can't sleep at night knowing what you know, NOW IS THE TIME! Don't worry, the 70% of the country who disapprove of Bush will make you a hero!

[IndyOp]

1. Kicked & Recommended for any Lurkers 'round here --

If you know ANYTHING about the past two stolen presidential elections you have a MORAL obligation to speak out. The subhuman who has stolen two elections has now killed 10,000's of Americans. If you have ANY decency you will STEP UP and SPEAK OUT!

[Helga Scow Stern]

2. Recommended, and I was thinking the same thing, gary.

And also how much this reminds me of the days on DU after the election was stolen. Watching, digging in shock as the truth comes out.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

3. Excellent time for it to happen!

I can't sleep at night because I have been expecting this to happen soon! The nation is fed up with the administration, the media is fed up, the troops are fed up....only ones who aren't are the kool aid guzzlers and most of them are slowing their fluid intake down. I predict it is only a matter of time before we have SEVERAL more whistleblowers. Plus, I think with the indictments in Cleveland, they know if they don't talk, they may end up indicted themselves!

[dooner]

4. Oh yeah. n/t

[kster]

5. kick recommend.nt

[hvn_nbr_2]

6. Yes. I've also been thinking it might be a good time for Fitzgerald...

to bring a few indictments.

[garybeck]

7. I think we don't really need a break, we just need some ATTENTION

we've been ignored and degraded and criticized and made fun of for 10 months.

we have all the info. we have whistle blowers. we have white stickers. we have scandals, investigations, lawsuits, ...

if the media would just take notice and get off their asses, we're ready.

the people want to know this

we want to tell it to them

who is standing in the middle?

[garybeck]

8. how about the VOTERGATE movie being released?

I haven't heard a peep from those folks. Anyone know when it's supposed to come out?

the timing could be perfect. the question is, will it get shown in the theatres?

[TheModernTerrorist]

9. I'm thinking it would be even better

if someone came forward with the TRUTH and told us that 9/11 was a set-up by the feds.... cuz it is...

[kster]

10. I' m thinking it would be better

if we could ban the vote stealing machines before 2006, so that we could get rid of all this corruption on or before 2006.

Garybeck, doesn't Mr. Conyers have a whistleblowers set up on his web page?

[Amaryllis]

14. Yes! Ban the machines!

[garybeck]

18. whistleblowers

I can speak with some knowledge on this subject.

There are a few things any potential whistleblower should know:

A whistleblower can remain anonymous if they choose. (Remember deep throat?)

There is reward money (a lot of it) available.

Total protection is available. There are lawyers waiting to help you. You can remain anonymous.

If you don't know who to get in touch with, i can help.

[bleever]

11. Somewhere a potential whistle-blower can't sleep, seeing the

carnage in NO that could have been avoided.

Time to do the right thing.

[kster]

12. Garybeck,

doesn't Mr. Conyers have a whistleblowers set up on his web page?

[autorank]

13. Amen brother gary. My prediction is 36% approve is the magic #

I won't be tedious and reinsert my prediction piece of several months ago (mainly because I can't easily find it). But, "management" knows that Bush is "dangerous" as Nancy Pelosi says. They know he has to go. The most elegant way of getting rid of him right now is "election fraud-stolen elections." I'm not sure they'll do this just yet but it's the final card. Look for something major from Fitzgerald by the end of the month. They've already indicted DeLay's PAC so look for them to squeeze him individually.

The Watergate scenario is looming but who wants "them" to give us the updated "Ford". Cheney and Bush need to go and Gore needs to be this decades "Ford" replacement. He won 2000 period, no questions about it.

I believe...

[Amaryllis]

15. Don't think they would do election fraud; too many other rats would go

down with that ship.

[autorank]

16. Ohh, they'll try but we've still got some time and we're going to stop it!

Nobody's responding to my post on ERD about making pre-election requests for ballot book revidews post election as one pre-emptive measure. I may be all wet on the idea but I think that there need to be about 50 pre-election requests that all target fraud-rich strategies. Who cares if the current climate indicates they'd be turned down. Let them do it and they look like asses and then there can be law suits. Who cares if they've stackedk the courts. That will be further proof to the public. It's a broad strategy--get them on the defensive on key points and the tactics of the pre-election requests serve that strategy. Whatever.

[kster]

17. Kick.nt

[mod mom]

19. Maybe with the winds of change at CNN, some of those late night exit polls

can be re-examined.

[kster]

20. Kick just in case ...nt

[emlev]

21. Great project for DUers--outreach to potential whistle-blowers

(No time to read this whole thread, so someone may have said this)

Let's brainstorm about who they are.

-Employees at voting companies (Dieb-Throats, etc.)
-Employees at Boards of Election/Election Offices
-Secretaries of State and their employees
-Other election workers
-Police officers in Lucas Co., Ohio who investigated Dem HQ break-in
-Exit pollsters

Here's how to begin:
1.Keep this list growing.
2.Pick an item and try to track down names and contact info.
3. Begin composing a letter/email that can be sent to these people.
4. Set up support system for people who do come forward. (Sherole Eaton hasn't gotten enough help. Shame on us for that!)

I think the next week or so is *not* the right time for someone to come forward, because stories will get buried by Rita.

But maybe this is one chance to topple the Bushies without them staging another terrorist attack, because an attack right now would only make it clearer how unable they are to respond!

[Stevepol]

22. What about Dieb Throat? If MSM would grab onto it, that could be the

straw that broke the camel's back. But the American people are just not ready to re-take their democracy I suppose. Eventually, enough people will understand. It's all just very frustrating.

Part of it is that the media just will not accept the exit polls as an indicator of fraud. I recently sent a LTTE to the local paper about electronic voting. I focused on the Micro-Vote machine since that's what we use here. At the end I had a part about the exit polls indicating that Kerry had won by 3% and that the data was still being studied by uscountvotes.org. I included that to indicate the lack of trust people have in the election process. The letter was published but only after that part was excised and replaced by a remark about the Baker-Carter hearings having recommended ths same thing my letter recommended. Actually, my letter recommended either a paper ballot or paper ballot print-outs and required audits for all elections where voting machines are used to count the votes. I think that message is getting out at least and very soon will begin to work, but unless the exit polls are generally acknowledged as indicating a need to audit carefully and recount when the audits aren't exact and put people in prison when they are shown to be stealing elections, the paper trail is meaningless.