Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Note to DoJ: Don't Jog in Central Park at Night and Think Before Suing NY

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:22 PM
Original message
Note to DoJ: Don't Jog in Central Park at Night and Think Before Suing NY
I wonder if the DoJ turned down the wrong street by suing NY for not being HAVA compliant.

A coalition has formed there and is telling the fed not to force them "into hasty procurement of voting systems which are not secure, poorly tested, and which fail to reliably and accurately record and count votes."

New Yorkers are generally friendly people. But they have their limits.
:D


New York Voters and Civic Groups Intervene in DOJ Lawsuit

Rush to Judgment on Voting Machines Risks Electoral Chaos in 2006

A coalition of New York voters and civic groups, including New Yorkers for Verified Voting and the League of Women Voters of New York, announced today that they are intervening to oppose a lawsuit filed by the US Department of Justice (DOJ) against New York State.

On March 3, 2006 a Motion for Intervention in the DOJ lawsuit was filed in the United States District Court, Northern District of New York, by Larry Rockefeller, a longtime voting activist; Bo Lipari of New Yorkers for Verified Voting; The League of Women Voters of New York State; Lionel Logan of the Syracuse Onondaga County Branch NAACP; and Steve DeWitt and Hank Nicols, Election Commissioners from Tompkins and Otsego counties, who joined in their personal capacity as registered voters.

If the Department of Justice action forces the State of New York to overhaul New York’s voting systems before the September 2006 primary it risks Election Day chaos. The lawsuit could result in New York being forced into hasty procurement of voting systems which are not secure, poorly tested, and which fail to reliably and accurately record and count votes. Using untested voting systems acquired in haste is a recipe for disaster.

The United States Constitution guarantees the right of citizens to have their votes counted in honest elections. The DOJ case represents a threat to this fundamental right.

http://www.nyvv.org/intervene.shtml

pdf of joint announcement

http://www.nyvv.org/MIpr060203.pdf

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. Damn! They're already gearing up to steal the next one! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:45 PM
Response to Original message
2. Maybe Dave Letterman will break the news to the nation
about these vote counting machines. Go New York. Show them what your made of.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Wow, that would signify a turning point wouldn't it? Step up Dave! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 11:54 PM
Response to Original message
3. Do they know about Vote-PAD??

as an alternative?

http://www.vote-pad.us/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. And how about the people out of work
that would come in and count ballots for an honest days pay? And the printing companies that would hire people if they had a big ol ballot printing order? You could give $ credit to college kids that come in to count the ballots. We don't need these companies or their election theft machines counting or tabulating our ballots.

I hope New York makes a stand and tells them to keep their f.... money.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Vote-PAD is the BEST alternative to DRE (founded by a voting activist)
NY can remain HAVA compliant without those damn DREs. No need for litigation.

More info:

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70036-0.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. BradBlog Link
Vote-PAD: The Simple Voting Device that May Save American Democracy!

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002329.htm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 10:00 PM
Response to Original message
7. Wait a minute....
What's wrong with hasty procurement of voting systems which are not secure, poorly tested, and which fail to reliably and accurately record and count votes?

This is America isn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 03:57 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC