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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 07:36 AM
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Election Day troubles could be part of 'international conspiracy'


Alderman: Election Day troubles could be part of 'international conspiracy'
By Andy Shaw
April 7, 2006 -

One of Chicago's most powerful aldermen has a conspiracy theory for the voting problems experienced during the March primary. Alderman Ed Burke wants to know why the Chicago board of elections would pick a Venezuelan company to supply the city's new voting machines, a company Burke believes has the ability to rig an election for political gain.

Both the voting machine company and the board of elections are calling alderman Burke's suggestion of a conspiracy absurd. This happened during a city council hearing Friday on problems during last month's primary.
Alderman Ed Burke, whose wife just got appointed to the Illinois Supreme Court, took back the spotlight Friday at a wild city council hearing where Burke said the vote counting problems on primary election night may be part of an international conspiracy led by the president of Venezuela, who is engaged in a war of words with the Bush administration.

"We've stumbled across what could be the international conspiracy to subvert the electoral process in the United States of America ," said Ald. Ed Burke, finance committee chairman.
more at:

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=4065162
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 07:47 AM
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1. When it comes to our voting procedures nothing is over the top............
....anymore. Everything needs to be taken seriously and questioned.

That much having been said, doesn't Venezuela and more specifically Hugo Chavez hate Bush??
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 08:16 AM
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2. Stumbling is good...
Just glad to see our politicians catching up.

I don't care how one comes to the realization that the outsourced voting systems are a danger to our democracy, just that they do realize.

The very idea that a foreigner could be in charge of a U.S. election is alarming, but no more so than Diebold Elections president O'dell saying that he was gonna make sure Ohio ended up casting its electorial college votes for bush.

But this episode, this Chavez influence, could be a tipping point for the masses. Now the pubbies are dragged into the issue due to their fearless leaders war of words against an owner of one of the companies who count the votes.

Let the games begin!
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 11:31 AM
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3. Chavez fixxing elections is a bad thing? LOL
:)
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organik Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:37 PM
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4. They always accuse others of doing what they do.
It's just the way they work. Accuse the left of "voter" fraud while doing it yourself (election fraud). Point the finger at the Ukraine while fixing elections here at home.

Chavez has made Venezuela far more democratic than it ever was before.

all about Hugo Chavez

I understand Venezuela does use Sequoia machines WITH a paper trail AND open source software, unike Sequoia in the US.

The real deal with us not liking Chavez is that at the current price of oil, his country has the largest reserve in the world - and he doesn't want to bend over and be taken advantage of by the US, which I respect.

Viva Chavez!
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Votergater Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 01:00 PM
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5. ES&S messed up Venezuela's elections in 2000
and apparently the Venezuelan's were so angry that the ES&S technicians hid out in the American embassy. Oh dear. :yoiks:


http://starbulletin.com/2000/06/07/news/story3.html

>>>"Venezuela's president and the head of the nation's election board accused ES&S of trying to destabilize the country's electoral process.<<<

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 11:58 AM
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10. Hi Votergater!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 01:43 PM
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6. K&R...nt
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 06:40 PM
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7. He prefers those good, old-fashioned *'murkin* vote-trashing machines.
"Yeah, but THEY trash your vote in OUR favor."

Great to hear rethugs admit that these effing machines are used to "subvert the electoral process in the United States of America"
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 09:26 PM
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8. If someone wrote a movie script with just the straight facts about all the
e-voting stuff no one would believe it because it's just too melodramatic.
As Thom Hartmann said, this isn't hidden; it's right out there in plain sight...all the "stunning upsets" that always favor one party, the glitches, the phantom votes, more votes than voters, etc etc. MSM has been reporting on that for years, just not too often. Now it's happening daily.

And now we have foreign ownership...how can we get them to get upset about Jeff Dean programming the software with all his felony convictions for computer fraud? Or maybe that wouldn't bother him....unless...Jeff is a DEMOCRAT! But he probably isn't.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:07 AM
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9. kick.nt
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