Election night, 2004: What's Rove doing with this bank of computers?

[bleever]

Add your caption here, serious or otherwise.



By the way, the woman next to him is his executive assistant, Susan Ralston, whose previous job was as Jack Abramoff's personal secretary. Remember that Rove recalled about election day that he knew the exit polls were wrong because of his own "internal" polling. Remember also that Abramoff lobbied for Diebold and has ties to the creation of HAVA, which required electronic voting with no paper trail.

So what do you think ol' Karl might be saying into his telephone?

[sandrakae]

1. Rigging the election, of course.

[mopinko]

2. where the hell are those votes i paid for?

god damn it, you were bought, now f'ing stay bought!!

[madaboutharry]

3. Don't worry about a thing

Jeb, I just put George 3 mil ahead in FLA!!! Let me call you back, I gotta get Ken Blackwell on the line....

[EFerrari]

4. "Does it look like a real election out there?"

I still don't understand this image. Al Gore was excoriated for making fund raising calls from his office. But, Karl Rove sets up a Bush campaign HQ in the White House and that's fine?

[mopinko]

7. you and me both

that picture has bugged me since i first saw it. can anyone say- hatch act??

[intheflow]

20. Recommended just for your post here, sfexpat.

So right on. It pisses me off no end to see the double standard of what's acceptable and not between Dems and Repukes in election activities. :grr:

[EFerrari]

45. The White House belongs to the People, not the ruling party.

Or, in theory it does. :(

[AndyA]

5. Why, those computers are tied directly to Diebold, of course.

After all, the CEO of Diebold guaranteed the Republicans a win. How else could he have done that?

We need to make sure Rove's computers are non-functional in November.

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[cassiepriam]

6. Move 2000 blue votes to the red column in Warren County,

in Columbus move 3000, and in Cayahoga move 5000.

That should do it, good job!

[Ouabache]

59. "yeAH don't worry about moving any votes in small rural counties

like Morrow County. There aren't many in a small county to move, so just move them in the BIG counties. No one will ever notice we lost 7% support in Morrow from 2000 to 2004. No one will ever question that if we lost 7% there why did we not lose more than 7% in URBAN counties."

[bleever]

8. "Don't worry about the exit polls; we'll adjust those later."

"And get Warren County locked down; we're gonna need to keep our options open there til we see how Cuyahoga comes in."

[Kip Humphrey]

9. Change the vote flip formula to 1.0486 in Ohio; we're still losing!

[EFerrari]

10. It wouldn't hurt if we kept pointing out Abramoff's ties to HAVA

and Rove. . . .

/t

[MelissaB]

11. Serious question

I'm betting that Rove was up to no good, but if he wasn't what was he doing?

Now that the dots have been connected with Abramoff, Diebold, and HAVA I especially find it hard to believe Rove is only "checking his numbers". Also, I keep thinking of J. Kenneth Blackwell and how he plays into this whole mess. Having a computer connected to the central tabulators is just too much of a coincidence.

[bleever]

12. Seriously, why DID he need precinct-level, real-time results?

All the campaigning and get-out-the-vote efforts were already finished or in progress.

Did he really need to be the first guy in the nation just to know how the vote came out?

It makes no sense that he set up that huge operation just to "follow" the returns.

Given this cabal's mania for using every possible advantage, is it even possible to consider that they might NOT have used their inside knowledge of the voting system they helped set up?


:mad:

[EFerrari]

13. No, it's not possible. Especially when you remember Jr.

beaming while Kerry was leading mid evening.

[bleever]

15. Remember the looks of doom on his face, and Pickle's, after they voted?

They knew that they had lost.

Then later Karl got them out for a photo op to grin for the cameras.

Here's another version of the photo I found:



http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://electionsmoking.blogspot.com/&h=344&w=400&sz=31&tbnid=-P-G_aYw2xMAIM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=120&hl=en&start=16&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbush%2Belection%2Bnight%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG

[Amaryllis]

33. Who's Pickle?

[bleever]

36. It should have read "Pickles'", referring to Laura.

The both looked awful coming out of the polling place in Texas.

[kster]

14. Calling in a bombing campaign to start at 12:21, Because

he knows Kerry just beat the machine, and they are going to have to outright flip the election.

[bleever]

16. "Cue the green shoes!"

[Amaryllis]

17. Now do you see why I wanted two-way communication between your

office and the county tabulators, Ken?

[FogerRox]

18. Gimme 100 bucks on Galloping FIlly in the 5th at Aqueduct.

[bleever]

19. "Just do your part, Ken; remember what we did for Katherine Harris?"

"Everything is just fine...trust me, Mr. Secretary."

[Notoverit]

21. Real caption - from BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3987237.stm

Early exit polls quoted by media seemed to give Mr Kerry the edge, but colleagues said Mr Rove indicated right away that they did not tally with his information.

He used his own data to put Ohio and Florida in the Bush column - bringing cheers from the president and his family when he went into the Roosevelt Room and told them

[bleever]

22. "He used his own data to put Ohio and Florida in the Bush column"

:)

That's pretty straightforward, isn't it?

Thank you, Notoverit, and a hearty (belated) welcome to DU.

[Amaryllis]

23. Wow! read this from link provided by Notoverit: Amazing...

By the time election night came around, Mr Rove was in the White House, where, unusually for a political adviser, he has an office.

He set up computers in the Old Family Dining Room and started tabulating results. He had set up a massive network of contacts, not just in state capitals, but individual districts and precincts to monitor turnout and support.

Early exit polls quoted by media seemed to give Mr Kerry the edge, but colleagues said Mr Rove indicated right away that they did not tally with his information.

He used his own data to put Ohio and Florida in the Bush column - bringing cheers from the president and his family when he went into the Roosevelt Room and told them.

And when the TV networks gave either Ohio or Nevada to Mr Bush but not both - which would have led him to be declared as the winner - Mr Rove was one of the president's aides who got on the phone to news chiefs to try to pressure them to change their minds.

[Amaryllis]

24. He set up computers in the Old Family Dining Room & started tabulating

results

[bleever]

25. So...Karl Rove is the vote counter?

Why count?

Everyone has voted. Those votes are getting counted.

Why is Rove counting? Why does his count matter?


???

[MelissaB]

28. Mr Rove was one of the president's aides who got on the phone to news

Mr Rove was one of the president's aides who got on the phone to news chiefs to try to pressure them to change their minds. :grr:

[Amaryllis]

32. That comment blew me away too. Not sure how to read it...

"And when the TV networks gave either Ohio or Nevada to Mr Bush but not both - which would have led him to be declared as the winner - Mr Rove was one of the president's aides who got on the phone to news chiefs to try to pressure them to change their minds."

Try to pressure them to change their minds about announcing a conclusive outcome YET because he knew the outcome would change, or????

[Amaryllis]

34. This was all from BBC. Why didn't we hear about this? Never mind,

I knwo the answer.

[EFerrari]

50. I do remember reading it or hearing it and I don't remember

where because I had no access to LBN at that point. I don't know if one of the anchors slipped or what.

But it makes me think that no matter how much they try to control our access to truth, the truth manages to slip out of their grasp.

[jkd]

26. Forget about the phone sex, I’ll give you a 100 bucks for your vote.

[formercia]

27. Are those Blackberrys?

the two guys behind Rove are using?

[MelissaB]

29. Probably. I don't think they would be playing a PS2 at a time like this.

I had never noticed that before. Good eye.

[Amaryllis]

37. what is the signficance of those being blackberrys?

[formercia]

39. Real time email.

anywhere you are, reach out and touch someone...


Phones are so passe.

[Amaryllis]

42. Yes, but Karl could do that on his bank of computers. dont need blackberry

for that.

[MelissaB]

49. Well, it wouldn't be traced to Karl this way.

[Amaryllis]

51. NO phone or email records to subpoena...

[EFerrari]

52. I guess I don't understand how BBs work.

The user isn't traceable?

If so, WE SHOULD ALL BE USING THEM.

No kidding, my telco handed my records to the NSA wrapped in a ribbon.

[Amaryllis]

53. Seriously? telco handed my records to the NSA wrapped in a ribbon.

Say more. How did you find out? This is freaky.

[EFerrari]

54. EFF has ATT in court for giving us all up to the NSA. Link:

http://www.eff.org/legal/cases/att/

[Amaryllis]

55. I thought you meant that you had found out that they had handed

over your SPECIFIC records...I knew about AT&T.

[EFerrari]

56. Oh, no. Although, lol, it wouldn't surprise me because of

the level of THEIR paranoia.

I won't do a foia request because it's a waste of our time. It should creep me out (but doesn't) that I just assume that anything I post or email or say on the phone or even in our home could be overheard.

The whole idea is to chill our conversations. If I don't give them that, they don't have anything.

And, it's not as though consequences aren't real to me. One of my family members was arrested and held for a year in El Salvador and probably would have been executed in an alley had he not escaped and recieved political asylum in Mexico. I understand fully what despots are capable of.

We just keep moving anyway, right? :toast:

[Chi]

30. 'I don't care about the damn exit polls..we need more votes...'

'I don't care about the damn exit polls..we need more votes in Cuyahoga.
we'll just have Uncle Warren spew the line about reluctant responders, they can't disprove that one
Tell Lucas they need to have a few more machines break down, I'll attach a list of preferred precincts

(Karl covers the phone and leans over to his assistant) is Guckert on the way?, I'm gonna need him after this
'Yes sir, he's tied and waiting in the Lincoln Bedroom''

[Patsy Stone]

31. Probably easier to list what he wasn't doing

I can probably say with all certainty, he wasn't calling to save 15% on his car insurance.

Too many irons in the fire between the vote switching, the phone jamming, coordinating the intimidation and chaos and directing Suzie and Kenny to do his bidding to say exactly which felony was occurring at this particular moment.

You just wont let this go, will ya? :thumbsup:

I'm still waiting for my reply from that BBC reporter about the curious phrasing in that article. I'm sure she'll get back to me any day now.

K&R

[Amaryllis]

35. Which curious phrasing in particular? THere is a LOT of very curious

phrasing...

[Patsy Stone]

38. This:

"He used his own data to put Ohio and Florida in the Bush column." Exactly, how, did he do that? Still waiting for an answer. :hi:

[Amaryllis]

46. When did you ask the question? Maybe it;s time for another question...

THat was a VERY fishy statement...

[Patsy Stone]

47. Right after the article was published

in the flurry of stolen election momentum. I never liked it, and I still don't, and that goes double for Warren County. Oy.
Maybe it is time for another letter, now that time has passed. Not a bad idea at all.

[Amaryllis]

48. Yup. Would love to know the source of that statement.

[bleever]

40. Any chance to see these phone records, via FOIA or other means?

Does anyone have any idea about the accessibility of these phone logs via public right-to-know laws?

(Thanks to diva77 for the idea.)

[autorank]

41. hmmm... thinking...t hinking... oh, i get it, FIXING THE COUNT!

Please feel free to check out HAVA the ERD Mascot and take him home next weekend.

He can get a little testy and show you things you might not like...but it will
be memorable.

[Amaryllis]

43. HAVA the ERD mascot? Huh?

[bleever]

44. From his Election Fraud News thread of today:

[roseBudd]

57. I have photographic proof right here of what Rove was doing...

[stepnw1f]

58. KICKING THIS! (nt)

[Einsteinia]

60. Read this real time post that documents

what Rove was doing at 12:23 a.m.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2004/11/3/3210/18188

[Einsteinia]

61. I meant to say 12:21 a.m.

n/t

[autorank]

62. I'm a sucker for this one...a work of art!!!n/t

[Blue Shark]

63. He was...

...Playin' solitaire...yeah thats the ticket...solitaire.

[bleever]

64. Kicking because I still want to know.

Perhaps we're getting closer to finding out.

[McCamy Taylor]

65. I have been looking for that pic! It was scrubbed from the Internet!

[Wilms]

66. If it was scrubbed, how'd Bleever post it? n/t

[Wilms]

67. Here's my caption.

Karl Rove poses for a what he knows will become a dis-info photo seized upon by paranoids who don't know shit about how elections (in general, let alone 2004) are stolen.

He's probably ordering a pizza.

If there's a valuable story here, it's Abramoff's ex-secty working with Rove.

But sure. Let's trot this photo out as a means to educate the public. Perhaps a knuckle-dragger, or two, will be impressed by the logic.