"New York Halts E-voting Machine Testing" FROM AN UNLIKELY SOURCE

[kster]

If we ever come together on this, the Politicians are in DEEP SH*T.



"New York Halts E-voting Machine Testing"
Computerworld ^ | 29 January 2007 | Marc L. Songini

Posted on 01/29/2007 5:08:20 PM PST by lifelong_republican

"...The New York State Board of Elections has suspended the testing and certifying of electronic voting machines after learning of flaws in the test methods of the company it hired to do the job..."

(Excerpt) Read more at computerworld.com ...

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The electronic 'voting' systems haven't been proven to be suitable for use in elections, mainly because they aren't. They're ideal for election subversion, though.

1 posted on 01/29/2007 5:08:22 PM PST by lifelong_republican
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ORIGINAL ARTICLE:



January 29, 2007 (Computerworld) -- The New York State Board of Elections has suspended the testing and certifying of electronic voting machines after learning of flaws in the test methods of the company it hired to do the job.

For several months, Ciber Inc. had been testing machines under evaluation for purchase by the state under a $3 million contract signed in 2005.

The Ciber testing process had gained accreditation under federal guidelines set in 2002 but has yet to be certified for meeting updated requirements created in 2005.

The U.S. Election Assistance Commission last summer failed to grant Ciber’s request to gain special interim accreditation that is available to companies whose application for 2005 certification has yet to be acted upon

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=280967&intsrc=hm_list

[lostnotforgotten]

1. Hooray NY State - We Voted Last Time With The Old Mechanical Machines

Good enough for me.

[aquart]

2. I love my levers.

Nobody better try to get between me and my levers.

[lostnotforgotten]

3. Hear, Hear - Three Cheers For Levers!

eom

[aquart]

9. Hip, hip, hooray!

Had Ohio and Florida had levers, ahhhh......what horrors could have been avoided.

[The Count]

4. levers rule - and that's 31 electoral votes that won't be stolen by Chuck

Somehow - I see Hagel gobbling it all

[kster]

5. Message in freerepublic

To: lifelong_republican
There is something to be said for an actual physical ballot.

Well, we in New York DON'T vote using "actual physical ballots". We pull levers on antiquated (sometimes 50 years old or older) machines that provide absolutely no paper trail. NO PAPER TRAIL. No physical ballots. None. Nothing to recount but a counter inside the machine. And it hasn't been much of an issue.

But don't let pesky facts get in the way of an agenda.

[Bill Bored]

8. Big difference between non-scalable risks and scalable risks.

(The computer risks are the scalable ones.)

[autorank]

6. Everybody is getting on board. You don't mess around with the Empire state!

Who in their right mind at EAC decided to take on New York State. Please, they have enough bright people there to fight anybody to a stalemate. Smart, bright people who are ready to litigate, negotiate, evicerate...whatever you'd like.

I love the testing angle...here's a nice history of excellent articles:

Michael Richardson on EAC Testing-excellent

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[kster]

10. Yep, everyone knows and understands what is going on

To: Reform4Bush
Actually, hand-counted paper ballots, for all their faults, are indeed more reliable and less vulnerable than the electronics, per a study reported by "National Geographic":

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/11/1101_041101_election_voting.html

The destruction, alteration, or addition of physical ballots requires more work to affect fewer votes, and carries the risk of detection.

The electronics lose, change, and add fake votes by the thousands with the risk of doing so undetectably.



18 posted on 01/30/2007 4:38:43 AM PST by lifelong_republican (Valid Elections: The Idea of America)
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