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7/15 Election Model PROBABILITY MATH: MONTE CARLO, NORMDIST AND 3 CARD MONTE -- TIA




2008 ELECTION MODEL
A  Monte Carlo  Electoral  Vote  Simulation



Updated: July 15

  • ?click">Chart   State Poll Aggregate + Projection Trend
  • ?click">Chart   National 5-Poll Moving Average Projection
  • ?click">Chart   State vs. National: Vote Share Projection Trends
  • ?click">Chart   Battleground-State Polls
  • ?click">Chart   Battleground-State Win Probability
  • ?click">Chart   Electoral Vote + Win Probability Trend
  • ?click">Chart   Electoral Vote + Projected Vote Share Trend
  • ?click">Chart   Undecided Voter Allocation + Win Probability
  • ?click">Chart   Monte Carlo Electoral Vote Simulation Trials
  • ?click">Chart   Obama Electoral Vote Simulation Frequency
     2008 Election Model Fraud Analyzer 
  • Uncounted  &  Switched Votes
  • ?click">Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Vote Share
  • ?click">Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Electoral Vote
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    This
    State
    National
    State
    National
    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    Poll
    5-Poll
    2-party
    2-party
    Expected

    7/15/2008
    Aggregate
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    ELECTORAL VOTE

    Obama
    McCain
     45.53 
     39.03 
     47.20 
     42.00 
    54.79
    45.21
    53.92
    46.08
    420
    118


        
    15-Poll
    Last Poll
    Sample
     
    NATIONAL MODEL
     
    5-Poll Mov Avg
     
    5-Poll MA, 2-party Proj
    Poll MA
    Poll

    Trend
                          
    Gallup
    Rasmussen
    ABC/WP
    CBS/NYT
    Quinnipiac

    Newsweek
    Pew Resrch
    CNN
    DemCorp
    Time

    Bloomberg
    USA Today
    Newsweek
    FOX
    Rasmussen
    Date
            
    7/14
    7/14
    7/13
    7/14
    7/13

    7/10
    6/29
    6/29
    6/25
    6/25

    6/23
    6/19
    6/19
    6/18
    6/18
    Size
                  
    2637 RV
    3000 LV
    --
    1796 RV
    1725 LV

    1037 RV
    1574 RV
    906 RV
    2000 RV
    805 RV

    1115 RV
    1310 LV
    896 RV
    900 RV
    3000 LV
     
    Obama
            
    47
    47
    50
    45
    50

    44
    48
    50
    49
    47

    49
    50
    51
    45
    48
    McCain
            
    43
    45
    42
    39
    41

    41
    40
    45
    45
    43

    37
    44
    36
    41
    45
    Spread
            
    4
    2
    8
    6
    9

    3
    8
    5
    4
    4

    12
    6
    15
    4
    3
     
    Obama
            
    47.8
    47.2
    47.4
    47.4
    48.2

    47.6
    48.6
    49.0
    49.2
    48.4

    48.6
    48.2
    48.0
    46.6
    47.0
    McCain
            
    42.0
    41.6
    40.6
    41.2
    42.4

    42.8
    42.0
    42.8
    41.0
    40.2

    40.6
    41.6
    41.8
    42.6
    42.8
     
    Obama
            
    53.92
    53.92
    54.60
    54.24
    53.84

    53.36
    54.24
    53.92
    55.08
    55.24

    55.08
    54.32
    54.12
    53.08
    53.12
    McCain
            
    46.08
    46.08
    45.40
    45.76
    46.16

    46.64
    45.76
    46.08
    44.92
    44.76

    44.92
    45.68
    45.88
    46.92
    46.88
    Diff
            
    7.8
    7.8
    9.2
    8.5
    7.7

    6.7
    8.5
    7.8
    10.2
    10.5

    10.2
    8.6
    8.2
    6.2
    6.2
    Win Prob
              
    100.00
    100.00
    na
    99.98
    99.93

    98.48
    99.96
    99.09
    100.00
    99.85

    99.97
    99.91
    99.32
    96.77
    99.97
    MoE
              
    1.91%
    1.79%
    na
    2.31%
    2.36%

    3.04%
    2.47%
    3.26%
    2.19%
    3.45%

    2.93%
    2.71%
    3.27%
    3.27%
    1.79%
     

     

    Assuming that Obama will win 60% of the undecided vote, then based on the latest state polls, the Election Model projects that he will win 54.8% of the two-party vote with 420 electoral votes — if the election is fraud-free and held today. With 55% of the undecided voters, he will have 54.0% with 393 electoral votes. Since Obama won all 5000 Monte Carlo simulation election trials, his electoral vote win probability is 100%.

    Based on the latest 5 national polls average projection (including just-released NYT/CBS and ABC polls), he would win 53.92% of the popular vote.

    One might ask “What are you smoking? Nothing is 100%”. Well, based on the results of 5000 Monte Carlo simulation trials, the win probability is 100%. There is no way that a popular vote winning margin greater than 4% can result in an electoral vote loss. That has never happened and it never will. Monte Carlo proves it. Therefore, any analysis which is based on the latest polls and gives McCain more than a 2% chance of winning the election (assuming it is held today) is mathematically suspect. By inflating McCain’s win probability, they unintentionally provide potential cover for another stolen election.

    Of course, the probabilities will change daily as the state polls change.
    This is the relationship between the aggregate state 2-party vote share and the Monte Carlo EV win probability:
    Aggregate share
    50.2
    50.9
    51.7
    52.5
    53.2

    Win Probability
    69.2
    93.1
    99.1
    99.9
    100.0


    The bottom line is this:

    Fifty state polls (zogby.com and electoral-vote.com) and 5 national polls (realclearpolitics.com) confirm that Obama is leading by 54–46% with an increasing trend over the past six weeks. The Law of Large Numbers (LLN) is in effect. The more polls, the more samples, the greater the confidence that the sample mean is close to the True Mean. So if we accept what the LLN is telling us: with 54% of the two-party vote, Obama is an absolute 100% lock to win the Electoral Vote.

    How is the “win probability” calculated? Is it based on the electoral vote or the popular vote? The Election Model calculates it both ways. And the probabilities match — an outcome which not only confirms both methods but is also intuitively satisfying. The calculations are based on a Monte Carlo simulation (for the electoral vote) and normal distribution (for the popular vote).

    State Model Win Probabilities
    Why is the Monte Carlo (MC) simulation method used to calculate the expected (mean) EV and the electoral vote win probability? For several reasons:
    1. Unlike academic election models which attempt to forecast the popular vote based on a regression analysis using economic and political time-series months in advance of the election, MC determines the probability of winning the electoral vote based on the latest polls right up to the election,
    2. MC uses individual state win probabilities, as opposed to the simple win-no win scenarios in media-created election models,
    3. MC is a powerful tool for analyzing complicated systems when analytical solutions are impractical or impossible.

    Obama and McCain can both either win OR lose a competitive state. In each MC election trial, the winner is determined by a random process based on state win probabilities which are in turn determined by the latest poll. For example, assume that Obama is projected to win Florida’s 27 EV with 51% of the popular vote (based on the latest polls). Many electoral vote calculators would simply add the 27 EV to the Obama column to determine his projected electoral vote total. But this is an over-simplification; McCain has a 31% probability of winning Florida based on his 49% vote share; Obama has 69%.

    In each of 5000 election trials, Obama’s 69% probability is compared to a random number (RND) between zero and one. If the RND is less or equal to 0.69, Obama wins Florida’s 27 EV; otherwise McCain wins. The comparison test is applied in all the states. The winner of the election trial is the candidate who has at least 270 EV. The electoral vote win probability is simply the number of winning election trials divided by 5000. Since Obama won all 5000 election trials, his win probability is 100%.

    The Popular Vote win probability (for any given state as well as the national aggregate) is calculated by the Excel normal distribution function. We will show that Obama’s popular vote win probability closely matches his Monte Carlo EV win probability. Obama’s projected two-party vote share and the polling standard deviation (MoE/1.96) are the only required inputs.
    • Obama’s projected base case (60% UVA) vote share is V=54.79%.
      Assuming a 2.0% polling MoE, his popular vote win probability is 100%.
      The Excel function is: = NORMDIST (54.79%, 50%, 2.0%/1.96, true)
      Assuming a 3.0% MoE, the probability is 99.9%

    • For the 50% UVA projection scenario, V=53.25%; the win probability is 99.9% (2.0% MoE).
      Assuming a 3.0% MoE, the probability is 98.3%

    National Model Win Probabilities
    The National Model calculates the moving average projection based on 5 national polls. The base case 60% UVA scenario is assumed. The model provides a further confirmation of the State Model probabilities. The normal distribution function calculates win probabilities for all the moving averages using the MoE of the latest poll.

    For example, the latest Gallup poll (2637 sample) has a 1.91% MoE. Based on the 53.92% moving average projection, there is a 99.997% probability that Obama will win the popular vote: 99.997% = NORMDIST (53.92%, 50%, 1.91%/1.96, true)

    Election Fraud
    In a true democracy, this would be a slam dunk for Obama:
    McCain supports the most unpopular president in history with 25% approval.

    But there’s a catch: It’s called Election Fraud.

    The Democratic True Vote is always greater than the Recorded Vote.
    A massive voter registration and GOTV effort is required to overcome the fraud.
    • Approximately 3–4 million Obama votes will be uncounted.

    Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes conventional wisdom. But that’s to be expected. Although the media commissioned the exit polls which indicated that Kerry won by 5%, they don’t question the mathematically impossible Final Exit Poll which was forced to match a corrupt vote count. Bush won the corrupt Recorded vote but lost the True vote. Past is Prologue. It would be foolish to assume a fraud-free election.

    That’s why the Election Model now includes a fraud scenario analysis. Even assuming that 4% of total votes cast will be uncounted, McCain would need at least 10% of Obama’s votes switched to his column to win. In 2004 approximately 3% of all votes cast were uncounted. Bush stole 8.0% of Kerry’s votes (analysis below) to obtain his 3.0 million vote “mandate”.

    Zogby was correct in 2004 when he projected that Kerry would win. Unfortunately, Bush won a rigged Recorded vote. Kerry won the True vote, but like Three-Card Monte, what you see is not what you get. Election forecasters and complicit media pundits who projected a Bush win avoid discussing the overwhelming evidence that the election was stolen. On the contrary, a complicit media relentlessly promotes the fictional propaganda that Bush won TWO elections.

    These graphs display the effects of uncounted and switched votes on Obama's projected EV and 2-party vote share.
    ?click">Effect of uncounted and switched votes on the projected vote share
    ?click">Effect of uncounted and switched votes on the electoral vote

    This is a summary of where things stand today:

    THE 2008 ELECTION MODEL

    This
    State
    National
    State
    National
    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    Poll
    5-poll
    2-party
    2-party
    Expected

    7/15/2008
    Wtd Avg
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    Electoral Vote

    Obama
    45.53
    47.20
    54.79
    53.92
    420

    McCain
    39.03
    42.00
    45.21
    46.08
    118

     

    Sensitivity Analysis

    Undecided voter allocation scenario

    Obama
    50%
    55%
    60%
    65%
    70%

     

    State model: Projected aggregate vote share

    Obama
    53.25
    54.02
    54.79
    55.56
    56.34

    McCain
    46.75
    45.98
    45.21
    44.44
    43.66

     

    MoE Probability Obama wins popular vote (NORMDIST)

    2.00%
    99.9
    100
    100
    100
    100

    3.00%
    98.3
    99.6
    99.91
    100
    100

     

    Monte Carlo Probability Obama wins electoral vote

    Trial Wins
    5000
    5000
    5000
    5000
    5000

    Probability
    100
    100
    100
    100
    100

     

    Obama Electoral Vote

    Average
    366
    393
    419
    444
    464

    Median
    364
    392
    420
    446
    468

     
     
     
     
     
     

    Maximum
    451
    473
    486
    503
    506

    Minimum
    284
    319
    345
    360
    373

     

    95% Confidence Limits

    Upper
    411
    442
    469
    491
    503

    Lower
    321
    344
    369
    398
    426

     

    States Won
    31
    34
    35
    40
    41



    2008 Election Fraud Scenario Analysis
    The Election Model has been updated to include two key fraud variable factors: uncounted votes (net of votes padded) and switched votes. Historical evidence shows that over 75% of uncounted ballots are found in heavily Democratic minority precincts. These critical factors are never included in election forecasting models which permeate the media and the internet. In fact, there is no mention of fraud from professional pollsters, political forecasters in academia, media pundits or liberal bloggers on their web sites. But it’s understandable. No one wants to bite the hand that feeds them. Why should any of these interested parties discuss fraud when Democratic politicians won’t? Unlike impeachment, the dirty little secret of election fraud has always been off the table in Congress.

    The base case projection assumes zero fraud. But if 4% of total votes cast are uncounted, McCain would need at least 10% of Obama’s votes switched to his column in order to win. This could be done by rigging strategically selected touch screens, optical scanners, punched cards and central tabulators. Is it just a coincidence that Karl Rove is advising McCain?

    The Election Model calculates projected vote shares and the electoral vote over a range of 36 uncounted and switched vote scenarios. The scenarios range from the True Vote (zero votes uncounted, zero switched) to Massive Fraud (5%, 10%). For simplicity, the model assumes that the scenarios apply equally in each state- an admittedly an unrealistic assumption. But it provides a good approximation to the resulting EV and popular vote.

    In 2004, Bush won by an official 3.0m vote margin (62 – 59m). The official recorded vote was 122.3m. According to the 2004 Census, 125.7m votes were cast. Therefore, approximately 3.4m votes (2.74%) were uncounted. Historical evidence shows that the vast majority (75%) of uncounted ballots are found in heavily Democratic minority precincts. After the uncounted ballots are added to the official vote, the margin is reduced to 1.4m (62.9-61.5m). The 2004 Election Calculator Model (see below) determined that Kerry won by 66.9 – 57.1m. Therefore, simple arithmetic shows that approximately 5.4m (8.0%) votes must have been switched from Kerry to Bush. Note that in Florida, Ohio and several other states, total votes recorded exceeded votes cast (vote padding exceeded vote suppression). Most states had more vote suppression than vote padding; the net difference was the number of uncounted votes.

    2008 Election Calculator
    This model projects that Obama will win the True Vote by 71 – 59m (54 - 45%).
    Basic input consists of the 2004 recorded vote, mortality, uncounted votes and 2004 voter turnout in 2008.
    The True Vote is calculated using slightly modified 2004 NEP vote shares.

           Voted     Est 2008             Calculated True Vote
    in 2004 Turnout Votes Mix Obama McCain Other

    DNV - 17.2 13.1% 59% 40% 1%
    Kerry 95% 60.5 46.2% 89% 10% 1%
    Bush 95% 51.6 39.4% 11% 88% 1%
    Other 95% 1.6 1.2% 70% 11% 19%

    Total 113.7 130.9 100% 54.1% 44.7% 1.2%
    130.9 70.8 58.5 1.6
    2004 Election Model Review
    On Election Day 2004, Bush had a 48% approval rating.
    The model produced a startling confirmation of the state and national models.
    • In the base case scenario, Kerry was assumed to win 75% of the undecided vote.
    • The Monte Carlo simulation determined that he would win 337 electoral votes.
    • Both models projected Kerry the winner with 51.8% of the two-party vote.
      The final 5 national poll average projection was 51.8%.
      The final 18 national poll average projection was 51.6%.
    The Election Model projections were based on state and national Pre-election polls.
    • Kerry’s projected vote share was within 2.0% of his exit poll share in 23 states.
    • The 12:22am Preliminary National Exit Poll indicated that Kerry won by 5148%.
    Exit Pollsters Edison-Mitofsky released their 2004 Evaluation report in Jan. 2005.
    • E-M discussed polling methodology and provided summary statistics by state, region and voting method.
    • Within Precinct Error (WPE) is the average difference between unadjusted exit poll margin and recorded vote count margin.
      It is more appropriate to call it Within Precinct Discrepancy (WPD).
      Kerry won the unadjusted (WPD) aggregate state exit poll by 52.047.0% (average of three measures).
                    Unadjusted Exit Poll             Recorded Vote Count
      EV Kerry Bush Margin KEV Kerry Bush Margin KEV WPE/WPD
      WtdAv TOTAL 51.95 47.05 4.91 337 48.27 50.73 (2.46) 251 7.37 %
    The state exit poll WPD:
    • exceeded 6% in 25 states for Bush and none for Kerry (equivalent to exceeding a 3% MoE)
    • exceeded 4% in 34 states for Bush and just 2 for Kerry.
    • was less than 2% in 8 heavily Republican states (AR, ID, IN, KS, KY, MT, OK and TN).
    • was less than 2% in just 1 Democratic state (OR), the only state which votes 100% by paper ballot.
    The 1:25pm FINAL National Exit Poll indicated that Kerry lost by 4851%.
    • All FINAL National Exit Polls are 'forced' to match the Recorded Vote.
    • The 'forcing' of the 2004 Exit Poll numbers resulted in IMPOSSIBLE demographics.

      Either the state and national Pre-election and Exit Polls were wrong, or the Recorded Vote was fraudulent.
    • The national pre-election RV polls were closer to the True Vote than likely voter LV polls.
    • The LV polls, after adjustments, matched the RVs — and the unadjusted exit polls.
    Two basic methods are used to forecast presidential elections:
    1. Vote share projections based on the latest state and national polls

      In the Election Model, state and national projections are based on the latest polls.
      Both state and national models allocate undecided voters to project the two-party vote.
      The state model uses Monte Carlo simulation to determine the expected electoral vote.
      The Election Model assumes the election is held on the latest poll date.

    2. Projections based on historical time-series data (regression models).
      These models forecast vote-share only and are usually executed months in advance of the election.
    Monte Carlo Electoral Vote Simulation Overview
    The objective is to calculate the expected electoral vote and win probability.
    The win probability for each state is calculated based on the current projection.

    For each of 5000 election trials, the winner of a state is determined as follows:
    Obama’s state win probability (from 0 to 1) is compared to a random number (RND) from 0 to 1.
    If his win probability exceeds the RND, Obama wins the state EV, otherwise McCain wins.

    The winner of the election trial is the candidate who has at least 270 electoral votes.
    The EV win probability is simply the number of winning election trials divided by 5000.


    Other links:
    2004 Election Model Summary, Polling Analysis, National & State Model tables
    Confirmation of A Kerry Landslide
    Election Fraud Analytics and Response to the TruthIsAll FAQ

    HAVA Look:  A Simple, Verifiable, Open Source, Paper Ballot Vote-Recording & Counting System

    Excel Models available for download:
    The Election Calculator: 1988-2004
    2004 Interactive Simulation Model
    A Polling Simulation Model
    2000-2004 County Vote Database

     

    2008 POLLING ANALYSIS AND PROJECTIONS
    National Model  — see atop
    State Model
    State Polls Pre-Undecided Voter Allocation
    EV:
    Projection
    Win
    Trial
    Flip to

    Total

    AL
    AK
    AZ
    AR
    CA

    CO
    CT
    DC
    DE
    FL

    GA
    HI
    ID
    IL
    IN

    IA
    KS
    KY
    LA
    ME

    MD
    MA
    MI
    MN
    MS

    MO
    MT
    NE
    NV
    NH

    NJ
    NM
    NY
    NC
    ND

    OH
    OK
    OR
    PA
    RI

    SC
    SD
    TN
    TX
    UT

    VT
    VA
    WA
    WV
    WI
    WY
    EV
    538

    9
    3
    10
    6
    55

    9
    7
    3
    3
    27

    15
    4
    4
    21
    11

    7
    6
    8
    9
    4

    10
    12
    17
    10
    6

    11
    3
    5
    5
    4

    15
    5
    31
    15
    3

    20
    7
    7
    21
    4

    8
    3
    11
    34
    5

    3
    13
    11
    5
    10
    3
    Obama
    45.5 %

    36
    41
    42
    41
    52

    40
    48
    90
    50
    39

    38
    61
    39
    50
    39

    51
    37
    39
    37
    46

    54
    54
    50
    54
    44

    48
    48
    36
    38
    40

    47
    49
    50
    47
    43

    43
    37
    49
    46
    55

    42
    43
    36
    39
    31

    63
    44
    51
    37
    50
    40
    McCain
    39 %

    50
    45
    39
    39
    32

    38
    32
    9
    41
    43

    44
    31
    52
    37
    40

    41
    47
    44
    56
    30

    30
    29
    42
    37
    50

    45
    43
    52
    38
    37

    36
    33
    37
    38
    43

    38
    42
    33
    36
    31

    41
    47
    41
    42
    55

    29
    39
    43
    45
    39
    53
    Diff
    6.5 %

    -14)
    (4)
    3
    2
    20

    2
    16
    81
    9
    (4)

    (6)
    30
    (13)
    13
    (1)

    10
    (10)
    (5)
    (19)
    16

    24
    25
    8
    17
    (6)

    3
    5
    (16)
    0
    3

    11
    16
    13
    9
    0

    5
    (5)
    16
    10
    24

    1
    (4)
    (5)
    (3)
    (24)

    34
    5
    8
    (8)
    11
    (13)
    BO EV
    359



    10
    6
    55

    9
    7
    3
    3



    4

    21


    7



    4

    10
    12
    17
    10


    11
    3


    4

    15
    5
    31
    15


    20

    7
    21
    4

    8





    3
    13
    11

    10

    Diff < 8%
    250


    3
    10
    6


    9



    27

    15



    11



    8





    17

    6

    11
    3

    5
    4





    3

    20
    7




    8
    3
    11
    34



    13
    11
    5


    Obama
    54.8 %

    44.4
    49.4
    53.4
    53.0
    61.6

    53.2
    60.0
    55.4
    90.6
    49.8

    48.8
    65.8
    44.4
    57.8
    51.6

    55.8
    46.6
    49.2
    41.2
    60.4

    63.6
    64.2
    54.8
    59.4
    47.6

    52.2
    53.4
    43.2
    52.4
    53.8

    57.2
    59.8
    57.8
    56.0
    51.4

    54.4
    49.6
    59.8
    56.8
    63.4

    52.2
    49.0
    49.8
    50.4
    39.4

    67.8
    54.2
    54.6
    47.8
    56.6
    44.2
    Probability
    100.0 %

    0.3
    38.2
    95.5
    93.3
    100.0

    94.5
    100.0
    99.7
    100.0
    46.0

    27.4
    100.0
    0.3
    100.0
    78.8

    99.8
    4.5
    34.5
    0.0
    100.0

    100.0
    100.0
    99.2
    100.0
    11.5

    86.4
    95.5
    0.0
    88.5
    97.1

    100.0
    100.0
    100.0
    99.9
    75.8

    98.6
    42.1
    100.0
    100.0
    100.0

    86.4
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    Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:22 AM
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    1. How did you get all that formatting to work?
    It's beautiful.

    I crave it.

    The story, with its math, was also interesting. I'm a little skeptical of stochastic electoral models because there are too many confounding variables that can't be isolated, not the least of which is Republican election tampering. Still, a good model is useful to determine the depth of that tampering.

    We still need a smoking gun that the public can accept without needing mathematical demonstration. Just one piece of visibly-can't-deny-it evidence that even a comatose wino could recognize, and the house of cards collapses.

    Excellent job. Thank you!

    --p!
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:46 AM
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    2. You don't consider Tim Griffin's discovered Excel caging files a "smoking gun"?
    The dude resigned his interim US attorney's appointment because of the scandal, and Conyers has said he's not through with "Mr. Griffin"

    Recommend the post, both for the HTML and the Fraud perspective having been integrated into the Vote Projection analysis.

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    Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 06:22 AM
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    7. Me? Yes, I do.
    But the caging files require a level of analysis that is not practiced in the MSM and not understood by most voters.

    People tune out math and logic, even when it's as easy to see as Bush era election rigging. The kind of "smoking gun" that will be required will have to be theatrical and/or symbolic. When it can be compressed into a ten-word talking point, it will work. That truly sucks -- but it's how media discourse works these days.

    If we can get sixteen years of pro-education Democratic dominance in Washington, that will probably change. We only had eight from 1961-1969 and again from 1993-2001, but both decades saw tremendous progress, even with merely moderate Democratic policies.

    In any event, historians do take note of these stories, and Bush is destined for a century or more of well-earned ridicule. In 2138, historians will be talking about the all-time worst-ever president, and it won't be Grant. Nope; Mr. Bush has redeemed Grant's good name. At least Grant served in the military with distinction and handled the Confederate surrender with wisdom.

    I did rec your post. It's a keeper. Thanks again!

    --p!
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    helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:46 PM
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    3. First rec! First rec!
    :woohoo:
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    kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 02:55 PM
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    4. K&R.nt
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    tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 08:55 PM
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    5. Note: Be sure to press Refresh to view the latest updated graphs nt
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    dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:35 PM
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    6. Thank you!
    Many thanks for taking the time in putting this together. There is much to study here, and to be honest, it's intimidating when you're not good with numbers. Nevertheless, I'm going to spend time to try and get a better understanding.

    I've bookmarked your 'A Broken Democracy Crash Course' website. I have a few of the books listed there as reading material. Many thanks to you, TIA and others for doing this painstaking task - for all of us.

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