New Yorkers, Instant Runoff is being pushed in your state. If you like computerized voting then you might not mind.
Passing Instant Runoff Voting in New York means a Pot of Gold for voting vendors Instant Runoff Bill Introduced in State Assembly January 27, 2009 Posted by irvnyc in Uncategorized.
In past legislative sessions, New York State Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr. has introduced a bill that would allow for instant runoff voting in certain local New York elections. This year, a similar bill, A03281, has been introduced by Assemblyman Brian Kavanagh.
Assemblyman Thiele’s past IRV bills haven’t made it out of committee. Notably, Assemblyman Thiele is a Republican in a Democratic-dominated Assembly. Assemblyman Kavanagh is a Democrat, so his bill may have a better chance.
The bill is currently in the Election Law Committee, whose members are listed here. If you live in one of these assembly members’ districts, please call or write to them and urge them to approve of Assemblyman Kavanagh’s bill!
To track the status of the bill, see this page.
Sequoia, Dominion or others would LOVE to sell you their junkie machines and get all of your HAVA funds.
Thats like a pot of Gold.Scotland gave up its hand counted paper ballots for a form of IRV:New Yorkers need to be aware that if IRV takes root in New York, it will incentivize the use of electronic or computerized voting machines. Dr. Rebecca Mercuri
warned Scotland about this, before that country switched to computerized voting.
Voting machines were recommended to Scotland, because counting STV/IRV is so complex:When Scotland adopted STV (a form of ranked choice voting) they traded their hand counted paper ballots to computerized voting machines:Scottish officials
followed the advice of "experts" including the non profit "The Electoral Reform Society" and switched from hand counted paper ballots to computerized voting in May '07 to support STV, a form of Instant Runoff:
3.3.1 Experience of counting STV elections elsewhere led the Scottish Executive to examine the feasibility of counting the ballot papers electronically. Following a procurement exercise in late 2005 DRS Data Services Limited (DRS) was selected as the preferred supplier to provide the equipment and support necessary to support such a process. DRS provided the e-counting services in the Greater London Authority / London Mayoral Elections in 2000 and 2004. DRS also involved Electoral Reform Services (ERS) in their proposals – ERS having extensive experience of STV elections.
("Electoral Reform Services" is related to the Electoral Reform Society, a non profit whose goal is to spread IRV).
You might say - but they have paper ballot/optical scan, so thats ok.
BUT - IRV is being promoted as a way to GET RID OF RECOUNTS in Minnesota, so that paper will be worthless.Your View:
Instant runoff cheaper than recount Mankato Free Press, MN - ...Second, would be to institute IRV voting — this is instant runoff voting or ranked voting. This totally eliminates the need for a recount. ...
But IRV can cause the need for a recount, as it did in Cary North Carolina in Oct 2007.The election officials couldn't count just 3,000 ballots correctly:
"Critics Take Runoff Concerns to Elections Board" NBC 17 Tuesday, Oct 30, 2007 - 07:29
...What IRV does is violate one of the basic principals of election integrity, which is simplicity," said Perry Woods, a political consultant in Cary.
He says a small glitch threw everything into turmoil.
Basically, someone counted the same group of votes twice; the error was caught, and corrected after an audit.
Woods says his problem is with how they conducted that audit.
"In this case, they ended up recounting all the ballots again and calling it an audit," said Woods. "I felt like if they were doing that, the public should have been involved, so no doubt is there."
Will Sequoia, Dominion, or others help get IRV passed so that they can sell you machines?
Yes IRV can be counted by hand, but its very hard. It also has to be counted at a central location,
which violates your state laws.
What will you do?