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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 01:33 PM
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Hacking Community Silent About Push for Internet Voting
The latest threat to election integrity is the push towards Internet Elections. Last year, a group called Democrats Abroad held their Presidential primary for overseas voters on the internet. The Democratic Party accepted the results. Recently a town in Hawaii conducted a municipal election over the internet. Other states are considering testing internet voting first with overseas military voters. You would think either the White Hat Hackers or Black Hat Hackers would glom all over this. Of course, the computer scientists from the e-voting community are speaking out, but what about the guys out in the "wild"? Imagine an internet election where all of a sudden one of the winners is a character from a popular movie?

We in the verified voting community are concerned about overseas voters, but we have safer ways to enfranchise them.



May 14, 2009

America's Newest State Holds America's Newest Election



...America's newest state, our southernmost state, has a different idea. Right now, as you read this article on the Internet, citizens of Honolulu are voting in America's first all-digital online and telephone election. Residents of neighborhoods with contested board seats received pass-codes in the mail, along with a Web address and a phone number allowing them to vote at any time, day or night, from anywhere in the world.

While I typed that paragraph, two people just voted. They may have just gotten home from work, or they may be at school, in the library, or even overseas. Someone else will vote at 3:00 am in his pajamas. And all of their votes are being secured using military-grade encryption technology: faster, more reliable, and more secure than if they had voted on paper....


Alabama overseas internet bill fails - barely

Overseas voter bill sinks
Rep. Martin’s bill falls victim to late amendments
By Scott Mims | Clanton Advertiser Published Friday, May 15, 2009

A bill that would have allowed military personnel and their families overseas to vote online has died in the Alabama Senate.
....Martin said he plans to re-enter the bill next year.



The US Govt tried to set up a pilot to have overseas/military voters cast ballots over the internet.
Computer scientists fought it and defeated it.

An Analysis of Internet Voting Security in the SERVE (Secure ...Jan 20, 2004 ...
This report is a review and critique of computer and communication security issues in the SERVE voting system (Secure Electronic ...



The National organization Verified Voting has this statement on internet voting:

Internet voting systems have all the fundamental weaknessesFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
This is also the position of VerifiedVoting.org on internet voting, and. VerifiedVoting.org will help to publicize it. Q: Why this statement at this time? ...



Since votes must be secret (no one must be able to tell how a particular voter cast their ballot), and since transparency is
very important, as well as auditability, how can internet voting be safe.

Why hasn't the hacker world said anything at all about this?

How can internet voting possibly be safe and secure?

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 01:46 PM
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1. I am completely opposed to this.
Without some kind of paper ballot there is no verifiability, no way to do a meaningful recount. That in itself is reason enough to reject internet voting.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 01:50 PM
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2. The only electronic voting system that is secure
is the one that never gets used.

This should be a non-starter.

I HATE people who try to game the voting system and that is ALL this is.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 02:21 PM
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3. I really think the NASS needs to have its feet held to the fire and speak out
Edited on Mon May-25-09 02:22 PM by diva77
against computerized voting, whether by internet or DRE or optiscam, along with the Hacking Community.
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