NY League of Women Voters Warns of "Pandemonium" Introducing Computerized Vote Counting

[Wilms]

So why do they keep advocating for them?

"Even though it's only a local election, it's going to be pandemonium on voting day if voters don't get an eyeful before they go in," Amiran said of demonstrating the new machines.

http://post-journal.com/page/content.detail/id/534623.html?nav=5004

"...only a local election..." Yep. The type of election that will likely never be adequately audited and therefore ALWAYS be determined by malleable software if optical scanners are used.

The article goes on to wrongly suggest the pilot (sic) program will only involve 16 counties, "according to election officials". Only off by a factor of three. :eyes:


Why is there so much ignorance about this in NY State? Why did a county election official recently claim that optical scanners aren't computers? Why do so many (refuse to read the law, and therefore wrongly) assume that HAVA, rather than ERMA, requires the replacement of lever voting machines?

A likely major source of the confusion is New Yorkers for Verified Voting and their chief evangelist for computerized vote counting, Bo Lipari.

New Yorkers involved in election administration and advocacy could do their constituents well by taking the time to learn the facts.


Here's a summer reading list:

ERMA
http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/hava/Chapter181VotingMachines.pdf
http://www.elections.state.ny.us/NYSBOE/hava/Chapter506.pdf

HAVA
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/voting/hava/HAVA_2002.html

Bryan Pfaffenberger - Machining the Vote: A brief history of lever voting machines
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Machining-the-Vote--A-brie-by-Rady-Ananda-080628-791.html

Teresa Hommel - WheresThePaper.org
http://www.wheresthepaper.org/ny.html

Howard Stanislevic - E-Voter Education Project
http://e-voter.blogspot.com/

UCONN - Voting Technology Research Center
http://voter.engr.uconn.edu/voter/reports/

[Bill Bored]

1. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength,

Software is Hardware, HAVA is ERMA, Certification is Transparency, A Spot Check is an Audit, A Recanvass is a Recount, A Voting Machine is a Voting System, Verified Voting is Ballot Marking, and of course A Roll-Out is a Pilot.

Any questions?

[clear eye]

2. Thank you for this.

It's enormously useful for those of us working on other issues who don't have the time to find all this info. I truly hope you've cross-posted it to the NYS forum.

Oh, and Bill Bored, your reply is priceless.

[Captain Hilts]

3. Here's a photo of a pissed off Leaguer...

[Democracy Cop]

4. The real deal regarding lever's Yes or No

For a really well balanced site regarding election ballet counting you should check out http://electionsmathematics.org

[Wilms]

5. Bad link and it's Kathy (Copyright) Dopp.

Whatever it is, she came up with it first.

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