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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 09:51 PM
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Experts Eye the E-Vote system in SC Over Obviously Erroneous Result


Brad is on top of the SC primary vote rigging. Here's the sub-title: 'Staggering' disparities seen between Alvin Greene's Election Day touch-screen results and paper-based absentee vote. Will corporate MSM have courage to 'go there'?...

Here are some snippets:

So, what else, besides or in addition to the "plant" theory, could account for Greene's remarkable "victory"?
South Carolina uses ES&S' 100% unverifiable Direct Recording Electronic (DRE, in this case touch-screen) voting machines at the polling place. The machines, also used in many other states (such as Arkansas, where we recently reported exclusively on the disappearance of thousands of votes on May 18th, which neither state or local officials are able to explain to this day) are both oft-failed and easily manipulated in such a way that it's almost impossible to detect the systems have been gamed.

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"With DRE machines deployed statewide (and op-scans used to "count" the absentee ballots), stealing Greene's race would be a cinch," Miller wrote. "Nor is there any reason whatsoever to believe the numbers tossed out by ES&S, the right-wing private company that makes and maintains both those DREs and op-scans."

Miller quotes an email from Jonathan Simon, co-founder and Executive Director of the Election Defense Alliance, asking "Let's assume Greene was a plant, how does that get him 59% of the votes statewide?"

Simon, a long-time critic of e-voting, known for reporting on the extraordinary and still-unexplained disparities between Election Night results and Exit Polls in the 2004 Presidential race, suspects foul-play on the machines.

" was a complete unknown to all voters, D and R. There was no campaign, period, certainly not to Democratic voters, and no evidence at all of one to GOP voters urging them to crossover vote in the D primary (the strategy that was credited with some bizarre results in D primaries in 2008)."

"So, whether Greene was or a plant or not can't really be the issue: you can plant a guy in a race but you can't get him 59% of the vote --- unless you're rigging the machines."

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"The machines are ES&S no-paper-trail DREs, 100% pure, unadulterated faith-based voting. The only question that I want to ask is why James Clyburn and Keith Olbermann and everybody else are focusing on the candidates, when it is so blatantly obvious that they should be talking about the DRE machines. Time to impound a few of those suckers, assuming the code is not self-deleting."

Link: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7890

Maybe the unthinkable will happen and the pundidiocracy will finally look at the obvious?

To be honest, I doubt it. They'll just say, "Well, it can't be proven to have been rigged by the machines so there's no reason to even bring it up. Nothing there. Just leave it alone. Move along."



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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 10:51 PM
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1. the democratic party INC does not care about having clean elections really nt
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 11:35 PM
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2. "Faith-based voting" is a catchy meme that needs to be spread around. It has tremendous potential.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 08:16 AM
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4. It's been around for six years. But it is an accurate description of the problem.
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 11:07 PM
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5. Yup, this and lots of catchy memes have been spread around for years...

...Paper Ballots, Not Vapor Ballots. Don't Let the Computer Eat Your Vote. etc etc etc.

Catchy memes are nice but it's time for realistic solutions. We can't wait forever for the economy to improve (so states can theoretically dump their DREs) or the perfect bill to correct the problem to everyone's satisfaction (that will never exist.)

FBN, I know you know what I mean ;-) :hi: ;-)

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 12:23 AM
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3. So what's next with this? nt
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 07:57 AM
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6. Perhaps a return to reason instead of this reactionary dribble.
Calling this "the SC primary vote rigging" is totally bogus. Cross-voting is legal.
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