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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:54 PM
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Unbefreeekingbelievable!!
CNN just showed Bush being interviewed outside in Crawford. A reporter asked him about Ukraine and Bush said how concerned they were about vfraud and all the irregularities. He then took about 5-6 more questions. Do you think anyone asked him the obvious follow-up question?

I am so sickI could :puke:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:57 PM
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1. here's the bucket!
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 01:57 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
Sorry it's used, I've been feeling that way for the last *3* f'in weeks! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:25 PM
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16. You're going to need a bigger bucket...
because we've got 4 years of this B.S./hypocrisy, irony/absurdity left to go.
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Banazir Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 04:01 PM
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33. Longer than that, if nothing's done.
If nothing's done, of course, then it'll be longer than 4 years. It may not be Bush in four years, but if it worked this year they're not going to stop tampering with votes (and all associated hypocrisy) just because Bush's term ran out.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:57 PM
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2. To be expected
any press who would have asked that question have been excluded.

CNN needs to have its ass kicked with emails and faxes every day. They have joined FOX as an unquestioning source for administration propaganda
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:58 PM
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3. if we all barf together
will they listen?
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:59 PM
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4. Barf bag!
:puke:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:02 PM
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5. Maybe we should all visit the WH
and "purge" for Democracy.

I assume they can't arrest you for getting sick in the building that now represents the death of American Democracy.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:03 PM
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6. Do we live in a parallel universe???
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:04 PM
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7. The media will never change unless we challenge their bullshit
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:00 PM
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22. "We" do challenge them. DEMS in power refuse to,
I'd love for once to see a high-profile DEM laugh in Wolf Blitzers or Judy Woodruff's face and say-

"You guys are so full of propaganda- and here is why...(current examples)Since when did (CNN, NBC, whatever) become the Rush Limbaugh program?... No, no, no-I'm not finished- here are some more lies about DEMs you personally have told and never corrected- allow me to read from the transcript I brought..."

etc etc- I would shit my pants if saw a DEM stand up for the truth in that way. Not a pundit or hollywood star- but an actual Democrat.

To me, it seems like the only way to fix it- CALL THEM ON IT-TO THEIR FACE.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:13 PM
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27. No, it's not their function to do so.
You never saw Bush** or Cheney** do that, did you? Because that'd be a nail in their political coffin. It's the function of surrogates to get in their face and call the corporate whore media on its hypocrisy. Surrogates ike Randi, and Dr. Dean, and us, to name just a few.

NGU.


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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:49 PM
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30. YES- I have. You are totally incorrect.
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 03:51 PM by Dr Fate
For one thing, there is a logical flaw in your statement- there is no real need for the GOP to "challenge" an entity that is on their side, is there?

But even still, they do say certain things that are messages to their Rush-ditto base about media-DEMS cant even do that.

I have indeed seen top Republicans, including Bush "take on" the media.

In Bush's most recent press conference, in fact- he accused the media of "stirring up partisanism" and accused a "fiesty" reporter of "being against the will of the people" since he asked too many questions.

I've seen actual Republican Congressman use the term "Liberal media" and "Biased press." Actual Republicans in office, including Dick Cheney have suggested that people watch FOX.

I think you are incorrect.



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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:05 PM
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8. Why do the rug burns on the knees of the corporate media...
...surprise us any more?? It'd be unbefreeekingbelievable if one of those whores really did ask the obvious follow-up question.

NGU.


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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:06 PM
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9. Yes, you are right. We live in a fascist dictatorship.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:10 PM
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11. indeed we do
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:22 PM
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14. The pic is too funny!
Glad I didn't see him gloating. The media probably slobbered all over Bush like usual. Barf bag coming. :puke:
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rosyhue Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:16 PM
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13. so true
they are a dweeby lot, aren't they? Totally afraid of making waves...no spunk or conviction whatsoever...it's gross
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:08 PM
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10. Out problem is we better start believing it and
doing something about it.. and I'm not talking emails, phone calls, boycotts or any of the other soft glove stuff either. We need to start deciding what we're going to do.
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rosyhue Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:14 PM
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12. love the barfing smiley face
it's doubtful anyone rebelled against media dorkdom by asking G the obvious fraud questions. It's totally gross he addressed the Ukraine issue. And from his Crawford weenie-farm, no less. Why is this idiot still around? WHY?? He kills intelligent people's brain cells!
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:24 PM
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15. interesting perspective you have
gross
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:27 PM
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17. I get the inpression they are saying this stuff about the Ukraine
just to smack us in the face. Neener, neener, nah, nee, nah, nee, nah,nah. We own this country, so up yours!
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:39 PM
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18. Repukes always work the up-is-down, black-is-white angle
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 02:40 PM by anamandujano
It has been working for them for a long time, and the press is PAID to go along. Emails, boycotts, etc---forget it, they are a business arm of the repukes. It's an easy area of their business to write off for not earning any money since they make up for it elsewhere. And, needless to say, propaganda delivery systems are the same as advertising, expensive but invaluable.

If the world press doesn't go after this, then THEY F*CKING DESERVE what BushCo dishes out, and THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.

They know we didn't vote him in either time and that our hands are tied because of the pervasiveness of their reach, including the whore press, including our complicit "leaders".
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wlubin Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:48 PM
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19. What they are doing is projecting this onto the Ukraine election. It is
similar to you having committed a murder, and then forming a movement to help find the killer. The last person anyone would suspect as being the killer is you. So in fighting against the voter fraud in the Ukraine, the repubs have now created a greater distance to the Truth that voter fraud has actually occurred here in the usa. Now in order for a dumb american to believe that voter fraud took place in the usa not only would they have to believe that it occurred, they would also have to believe that we are hippocrates.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:00 PM
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23. They have also opened up their own can of worms
They can hardly fault the voters for wanting to ensure that fair elections were held here as well, and as many have posted, that is how this challenge must be framed.

Use their own words and allegations against them.
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:58 PM
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31. Yes, I agree with this
We're getting a lot of great quotes from Shrubby, Inc. That includes Colin Powell who delivered some whammies, reported in Friday's NYT.

If Kerry and Company DO build a solid case and break with Election Fraud, I'd love to see Shrubby & Friends each eat scrambled eggs (with Pancakes from the DU to gag on--Ha!)
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:58 PM
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32. At least we've got them on the Offensive!
That's what we must remember. Bush felt he HAD to come out and make a statement...put a 'spin' on things. So for once, HE's on the offensive. And VERY MUCH so because he even took questions from reporters (no matter how 'staged'). Remember he almost never does that.

And the best part IS, it wasn't a very good 'offensive' at that. Just like in the "Wizard of Oz," I think we're attributing far too much power to the man behind the curtain.

Then again, maybe not... :crazy:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:54 PM
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20. If the the Liberal Media exists, it sure does suck at its job.
n/t
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:56 PM
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21. contact CNN
here's their NEWS TIPS page where you can suggest a story -- i think the obvious story here is that our election has more circumstantial evidence as theirs.

pound them with this message!

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form11b.html?1
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:04 PM
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24. Done. n/t
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:07 PM
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25. me too, it felt GOOD n/t
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:11 PM
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26. My suggestion:
Edited on Fri Nov-26-04 03:11 PM by Chimpanzee
What is wrong with you people?

How about covering the election fraud and the recounts? How about covering the mathematical improbability that the exit polls could be off that much beyond the margin of error in 10 of 11 swing states? You focus on the Ukrainian election, but we have the same situation here and you are silent. You should feel very ashamed.

I can't believe that our press has been silenced like this!
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:24 PM
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28. That would violate the
one question rule. They're like trained dogs with him now.
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Middle Finger Bush Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:44 PM
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29. i believe this is their strategy
to saturate the media with foreign vote fraud stories while at the same time setting up the response "if there was fraud in this country, obviously people would have reacted to it and the media would have talked about it"
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