"Actionable Fraud" Is All We Need to Demonstrate.

[johnfunk]

...to all those who demand absolute proof, I once again state that absolute proof of fraud (or a smoking gun) is not needed at this point in the proceedings. However, for those who still want to hear about some quite definitive fraud, please consider the following:

(1) That when voting officials tell the voting public that they have counted all ballots, when they have in fact tossed huge batches of ballots in the trash canisters, then that is actionable fraud.

(2) That when voting officials tell the voting public that they have counted all ballots, when they have in fact loaded huge batches of ballots in the back of a pickup truck that just happens to have a pro-Bush sticker on it, then that is actionable fraud.

(3) That when voting officials tell the voting public that they have turned over all official voting tallies, when they have in fact tossed some official vote tallies that they said didn't exist into trash containers, then that is actionable fraud.

... and there are seventeen more. Go here and read it all. And when Tom gets to the details on the Supremos, keep in mind that Chief Injustice William "The Segregationist" Rehnquist may be indisposed.

Props to Thumbs at Eschaton for posting the link!

[lonestarnot]

1. YEAH RIGHT ON CHALLENGE TO THE DUEL

Let's Roll!

[berniew1]

7. Strong indications of major electronic glitches or fraud in Ohio counties

Strong indications of major electronic glitches or fraud in Ohio in several counties

In analyzing the still-unofficial results, the totals reveal that C. Ellen Connally, an African-American Democratic candidate from Cleveland running for Ohio Chief Justice, received more than votes than Kerry in many counties. For example in Butler County, Connally received 5347 more votes than Kerry. The list of the counties where Connally actually outpolled Kerry include Auglaize, Brown, Butler, Clermont, Darke, Highland, Mercer, Miami, Putnam, Shelby, Van Wert, and Warren.

The reason the Kerry vote counts are suspect is because Connelly, a retired African-American judge, was vastly outspent in her race, and did not have the visibility of the presidential race. Thus for a more obscure Democratic candidate, farther down on the ticket, to get many more votes statewide than Kerry, suggests something happened to suggest there may have been a transfer of Kerry votes to Bush. ""Statistically, Kerry, as the Democratic presidential candidate, should have more votes than Connally. In a presidential election, most voters have the priority of casting a vote for president and the votes for president are almost always much higher than those of candidates farther down the ticket. As of election night, 5,481,804 votes were counted for Bush and Kerry. 4,327,270 votes were counted for Moyer and Connally.

""This looks like a computer glitch or a computer fix,"" said Bob Fitrakis, a lawyer, political scientist and Editor of the Columbus Free Press (http://freepres.org ) who has written about election irregularities since Bush was declared the winner. Fitrakis is among the team of lawyers who announced they would soon file an election challenge in the state’s Supreme Court.

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/warren.htm
http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm
www.flcv.com/ohiov04.html

[jamboi]

16. That is what Cliff Arnebeck referred to as "prima facia" evidence. n/t

[texpatriot2004]

2. Thanks for this information. It seems there is proof enough. n/t

[mom cat]

3. Straight shooting piece..a good read!

[roguevalley]

4. Thank you so much. I love to hear this.

[texpatriot2004]

5. kick it

[oscar111]

6. KERRY WINS IF sixty votes per ohio precinct, and highlights from above

this is my first rough shortening of the link above, orig post... an overlong KOS post with good legal thought, prob from a lawyer. Also see its first few numbered cases on Actionalbe Fraud, which are new to me.
Also see the case from eithteen hundreds.

Just jump to several places with READ HERE if you are short on time:
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Major Tom on "Actionable Fraud" and More! by Einsteinia
Tue Nov 30th, 2004 at 15:55:32 PST
Hello Koss:

Historical Precedent for the Taking

Back in the Presidential Election 1876,
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  the dispute eventually fell to the Republican Congress which swiftly voted along party lines and awarded the election to their brethren, Rutherford Hayes. At that point in time, Tilden and his brethren could have sheepishly walked away like Al Gore had done in 2000, as appears Kerry is doing now; however, they didn't.
READ HERE:
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The Democrats were so outraged and DETERMINED not to be defrauded, they fostered nationwide threats of civil war. With the country in such grave turmoil, the two parties subsequently entered into negotiations and finally reached the famous "Compromise of 1877" by which the
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Republicans acceded to several hard demands of the Tilden forces which included guaranteed appointments of Democrats to certain Federal offices and posts as well as a promise that Hayes would not seek a second term of office as President.
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Do We Have Sufficient Grounds?

I say to them, "that at this point in the proceedings, indisputable proof is not required whatsoever."
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  I would respectfully suggest that the criminal law, "reasonable suspicion standard" has also been met concerning some of the activities that we have been informed about - destroying original polling tapes.
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  Diebold, et al., should be required to prove how any of its vote machines malfunctioned in any given instance, or put another way, they should have the burden of proof to demonstrate that all of its machines functioned properly, just as they were intended to function.
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About "Trade Secrets"
  Friends, they are not absolute.

READ HERE:
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consider the following:
(1)  That when they have in fact tossed huge batches of ballots in the trash canisters, then that is actionable fraud.  
(2) they have in fact loaded huge batches of ballots in the back of a pickup truck that just happens to have a pro-Bush sticker on it, then that is actionable fraud.  
(3) they have in fact tossed some official vote tallies that they said didn't exist into trash containers, then that is actionable fraud.  
(4)  That when voting officials state that they have turned over all official records pursuant to an appropriate Freedom of Information Request (FOIR),   when they have in fact not done so, then that is actionable fraud.  
(5) when voting officials secret or destroy public voting records in order to conceal it from the public, then that is actionable fraud.  
(6)  That when voting officials dissemble anything of significant import concerning an election, then that is actionable fraud.  
(7)  That when voting officials intentionally give the voting public wrong information about who can or cannot vote
(8)  That when voting officials intentionally give the voting public wrong information concerning where a person can vote,  
(9)  That when voting officials intentionally give the voting public wrong information about who can or cannot register to vote in an election, then that is actionable fraud.  
(10)  That when individuals accept voter registrations from members of the voting public and promise to bring them to the Registrar of Voters, but instead tear them up or throw them away
(14)  That when members of the opposing party tell the voting public that they will be arrested for overdue parking tickets at the polling site when they vote, then that is actionable fraud.  
(15)  That when voting officials tell the voting public that they do not have any additional machines to put on site, when they know there are another 87 of them sitting in their warehouse, then that is actionable fraud.  
(16)  That when Blackwell states in a media interview that there were only a few minor problems during the Ohio election, when he knows the statement to be completely false and untrue, then that is actionable fraud.  
(17)  That when voting officials tell the voting public that they have enough voting machines on site, when they know that they do not, then that is actionable fraud.  
    
(18)  That when voting officials tell the voting public that they have sent out by mail, as per individual request, 50,000 absentee ballots, when in fact they did not, then that is actionable fraud.  
(19)   hide from the voting public the fact that they have thrown out thousands of provisional ballots, then that is actionable fraud.     
(20) key people who generate the secrets codes for their voting machines and tabulators are convicted embezzlers, hackers and felons, then that is ACTIONABLE FRAUD.  
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A Few Other Important Considerations:
While I'm discussing improprieties, I should also mention a few other actionable grounds which can be used to base a recount or a election challenge upon. How about:
1 voter suppression,
2 voter intimidation, and
3 voter disinformation.
----- minority precincts and college precincts have
4. half the voting machines in Republican districts?
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Do you realize that perhaps the votes of
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60 people PER Ohio PRECINCT,
could mean the difference between Bush or Kerry.
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Help America Vote Act Madness:
For those who do not know, the act actually financially rewards companies like Diebold that introduce "Direct Electronic Voting Machines Without Paper Trails" to new voting districts

[RaulVB]

8. In Carter's words

"Florida's electoral system does not meet international standards"

[texpatriot2004]

9. Carter is so right about that. n/t

[texpatriot2004]

10. kick

[donachiel]

11. Love your avatar!

Tux is so cute. :)

[texpatriot2004]

12. kick

[texpatriot2004]

13. kick

[texpatriot2004]

14. kicking it

[texpatriot2004]

15. kick it

[liberalla]

17. Finding the Corpus Delicti in the 2004 Election Results

This may not be exactly related to "actionable fraud", but it reminded me of this other article by Katherine Yurica:

"Ordinarily victims of crimes do not have to prove the existence of the crime. The dead body or the charred ruins of a burned down building provide visual, concrete proof of the wrongdoing. Sometimes, however, the crime is intentionally hidden, buried among honest transactions, covered with obstacles, and driven through layers of deception to lie at the bottom of a muddy pond—or at the bottom of a huge box of ballots in a warehouse or buried in a computer application’s program.

But without evidence that a crime was committed there can be no apprehension of the perpetrators, hence the search for the corpus delicti—the dead body or the thing upon which the crime was done.

Finding evidence of a crime is not the same thing as finding “who did it.” All the FBI or other investigators need to start a criminal investigation is evidence a crime has been committed. And it is for this reason I have been surprised and shocked at the mainline media’s news bureaus and reporters who have produced articles and comments dismissing valid evidence unearthed by researchers who are investigating the November 2, 2004 elections."

continued: http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOut.htm

[texpatriot2004]

18. Man this article does a body good. n/t

[texpatriot2004]

19. kick

[wiggs]

20. What needs to be done with this....

This is good stuff. What would really be helpful is to list these 20 fraud statements and then under each one give date, place, and description to all the actual events that relate to the statement.

For instance, under statement calling witholding of information actionable fraud, we would find the dates and places where Bev asked for information from Volusia but didn't get it. In addition, all the other instances of witholding information (Warren County witholding poll books) would be added and updated as need be.

Each statement might have as few as one example, some might have dozens.

All the information would be housed at a website for all to see. One place, very readable and updatable.

Perhaps someone here with resources can do it. Perhaps this request could be posted on Kos for Major Tom to do it (I'm not registered).

[info being]

21. Just a little bit of fraud is too much.

If any fraud can be proven, a revote would make sense.

[Danish Reporter]

22. Info on possible vote fraud needed!

Dear DU'ers

My name is Bo Elkjaer. I'm a danish reporter, writing for the second largest newspaper Ekstra Bladet. Check it out at http://www.eb.dk. Yes, we're tabloid, but not the kind of tabloid you have in the US. This year I was awarded the Cavling Award - the danish equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize - along with two colleagues from a competing newspaper. We received the award for our work uncovering the machinations behind the Iraq war. I wrote a white paper on the danish, US and UK governments rhetoric and fabrications on iraqi wmd. A pdf copy of the white paper can be found - in danish - here: http://www.datashopper.dk/~boo/irak/hvidbogen.pdf. It's titled in danish: 'Loegnen om krigen - krigen om loegnen', which basically translates to 'the lie about the war - the war about the lie'.

The reason why I'm writing all this?

I'm currently researching and writing about the irregularities of the US presidential election. In the course of this I'm trying to gather as much information as possible about what happened.

I have written several articles on this subject. Not anything that would surprise regular readers of DU anyway, but I read the DU regularly and want to tell you, that not all media is silent on this issue. I first wrote about this a couple of days after the election after I found the Gahanna 1B ghost votes in the lists.

All these things you talk about should be gathered and put together systematically. All holes need to be filled. I read Wayne Madsen's articles. The vote padding would leave "fingerprints" on the election results - these "fingerprints" would stick out probably in the form of discrepancies from exit polls etc etc.

This all sums down to one thing: Facts.

Please, help me! (oh, and your self of course!) Gather the facts. Map them out. The more hard, verifiable facts that can be produced the better.

For example: At what time was Warren County, Ohio, locked down? What was the name of the alleged FBI agent that warned of possible terror attacks?

What other polling places were locked down? Why?

Please feel free to contact me at [e-mail]

[newyawker99]

23. Hi Danish Reporter!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[BlueDog2u]

24. What was the name of the alleged FBI agent that warned of possible terror

attacks.

Good F'ing question. We have been wondering that here and the US media has apparently decided that the answer doesn't matter. Someone putting pressure on the local Warren media from overseas would be a great idea. The fact that no one has apparently pursued this question is about as good a reason as you can imagine to think that real journalism is gasping to survive in America. Go for it!

[jamboi]

25. I've never seen any name given. If I were a reporter I would just call up

the person that made that claim (what was their position?)and ask them directly.

[cyn2]

26. Here are 3 sites that list info

https://voteprotect.org/

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/

http://www.votersunite.org/info.asp

[Karenca]

27. Hi Bo Danish Reporter

So happy to meet you.
Welcome!
We will all be thrilled to help you help us.

[Helga Scow Stern]

28. I posted this in case no one else has.

[texpatriot2004]

29. The way I understand it, we have enough to show

actionable fraud...easy.