What Election 2004 would have looked like minus the Confederacy.

[elperromagico]

I think you can guess where this is going. Take away the 153
electoral votes provided by the 11 Confederate States of
America, leaving 385 electoral votes and 193 needed to win. 

Now, remove Kerry, Bush, and Other votes from those states -
subtract from total vote for each candidate. 

Here's what you come up with (using numbers from Dave Leip's
US Election Atlas): 

Kerry		43,147,458		50.51%		252 (65.45%)
Bush 		41,373,021		48.43%		133 (34.55%)
Other		909,668		        1.06%		0 (0.00%)

Furthermore, using the electoral vote counts from 1864 - the
only election where none of the Confederacy voted - you get
this:

233 electoral votes, 117 needed to elect.

Kerry           159 (68.24%)
Bush            75 (31.76%)

Now, this has no real bearing on the election, but I find it
rather interesting all the same. Thought I'd share.

[bemis12]

1. Well, you proved it

If you throw out the Bush states, Kerry wins.

[elperromagico]

4. Not my point at all.

My point is that without the former Confederacy, Bush couldn't win.

But if your point makes you happier, then fine. :)

[forgethell]

8. But, we can't throw them out

, hell, we didn't even let them go. And their vote is certainly as good as anyone's.

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Hey, where's your eyeball?

[elperromagico]

6. Replaced by "I Voted," then replaced by nothing.

Things were getting cluttered anyway...

[Radical Activist]

3. So Kerry only got 50% outside the south

I thought he would have done better than that. So, we can't blame it all on the South. Kerry didn't even do all that well everywhere else either. How sad.

[elperromagico]

5. Ahh, but he did extremely well in the electoral college.

And over 50% is a mandate, dontcha know? :D

[forgethell]

9. The win is the mandate.

The power is in the office. Of course, it helps if you have both houses of Congress, too.

[KnowerOfLogic]

10. Yeah, that's pretty disappointing. Jeez, pretty soon the whole

damn country's going to go "Confederate."

[Ima]

7. Thats a different take on things

[johnaries]

11. HEY! Remember, Lincoln was a Republican and the South...

was Democratic. The Civil War was about Federalists against State's rights, with the South trying to assert State's rights. I live in a "red" state, but I live in a very "blue" section of this "red" state.
We are supposed to be the progressives, and above "regional stereotypes". Can we at least act like it? Those of us in "blue islands" in "red states" need your support more than ever! We are fighting hard against ignorance, but it ain't easy. But we're not giving up, even though we're surrounded by idiots. Please don't make it harder for us!

[Yupster]

12. Wanna hear the Confederates celebrating?

In 1935 a Confederate veteran who was 9o years old taped his rememberance of an actual "Rebel Yell."

It doesn't sound like you'd expect it to, but it sounds like all the written descriptions described it.

Have a listen...

http://www.26nc.org/History/RebelYell/main.htm