News about Kerry joining OH suit getting big airtime on Hardball!

[Wordie]

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. So...

We now know what the buzz is in DC. Good. Sweat you bastards.

[musette_sf]

2. Woo-Hoo!

But what is the Tweetster saying?

[ooglymoogly]

53. chris mathews is a mildly dumb man in an intelligent spot.

the dumber people think he is telling it as it is, the rest know it is a bunch of sht.

[musette_sf]

54. It's the malaria!

[lonestarnot]

56. He's also a repulsive in case you've never watched before

[ooglymoogly]

64. oh yes i've watched

i have ulcers to prove it. i watched while he and colonel klink (wolf blitzer) destroyed clintons presidency. and i have watched while he and colonel klink have pushed this presidency on us. oh yes i have watched, but no more.

[sportndandy]

74. mildly dumb is like mildly virgin

you have to be all or nothing, and he is definitely all

[RaulVB]

3. That means...

The Washington "hacks" are nervous they might miss their next paychecks.

[Patsy Stone]

4. Is it over?

Can you recap, pls...

[Wordie]

5. They now have D. Orrin, NY Post, and Frank Rich NYT, both saying a

recount isn't necessary. "It's not going to change a thing." according to Rich.

Matthews asking if it has to do with Kerry wanting to run again.

YUCK.

[Carolab]

7. These people are IGNORANT

or SHILLS

Pick one.

[tridim]

8. And tweety just said

It's "pathetic to grow a beard"..? Talking about Gore.

Tweety, it's pathetic to be a whore like you.

[LisaL]

17. HTF did Florida refuse for Gore to have a recount in2000?

They freaking let Miami Herald reporters do a recount of several counties in 2004.
It's pathetic that Bush is in the white house!
:nuke:

[Patsy Stone]

Cruella DeVille

decided...with some help from Jebbie-kins.

[lonestarnot]

57. and Teresa LeHoe

the butterfly ballot biatch

[peacetalksforall]

62. with a connection to Khassogi...big time behind the scenes

partner of the Bushes.

Behind the scenes means that he is allowed to do his dirty work without a spotlight on him by the RPNs (Republican Corporate Networks).

[Patsy Stone]

34. oops

double post

[DoYouEverWonder]

73. Anyone can do their own recount

after the votes are certified.

The recounts are not 'official' recounts so they supposedly don't matter at this point.

[RaulVB]

19. "Tweety" likes to suck Republican members...

Of Congress.

[Patsy Stone]

9. Let's start writing e-mails kids...

Tell her it's about COUNTING THE VOTES!
Tell Tweety Gore is not PATHETIC!
Tell Frank Rich to get his head out of his ass...

[The Backlash Cometh]

10. Matthew is so clueless.

He is like a man hanging to driftwood being taken away further and further from shore by the currents. Goodbyyyyye Christopher!

[demodonkey]

36. Frank Rich??? Sheesh. He's nothing but "the butcher of Broadway"...

When he was a theatre reviewer his mean-spirited writings closed more shows and put more actors and other show business people out of work than anybody else in the history of "journalism".

He is no better as a "political reviewer".

Rich is one mean rotten man.
HE IS JUST PLAIN MEAN.
And an ass to boot.
JMHO.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. Good thing you asked.

I have absolutely no desire to change the channel to find out. I'll just sit here patiently and wait for some kind soul with a stronger stomach than I have to let us know.

[Wordie]

11. Also said in earlier part of the segment that Kerry was doing this in

response to pressure from the blog world and Jesse Jackson.

[Patsy Stone]

14. I bleeve the word was Conspiracy

C-O-N-spiracy...

[RaulVB]

12. What type of "Democrat" is Matthews???

He really wrote speeches for Carter?

So, that's why Carter lost I guess!

[Patsy Stone]

13. A Republican Democrat

with no brain. Sometimes I'm better informed then he is.

[RaulVB]

15. Ah...a "Republicrat" (n/t)

[FloridaCrat]

47. I'm not anything like him. Can I change my name?

I don't see the CRAT in him. He's a CRAT like Theresa LePore is a CRAT. They do that so they can get elected in Democrat strongholds and then their true colors (shitbrown) show. They are so stupid. I can't stand the way he has the reputation of being a crack reporter. yuk

[SueZhope]

49. Not a dem any more

I here tweety voted for bush

[Patsy Stone]

52. Only voted?

Didn't take him to bed after buying him a nice dinner? Sheesh.

[Halliburton]

16. The recount hasn't even started!

And that bitch from the New York Post said that they have increased Bush's margins? Matthews didn't even bother to correct her! I like Keith's coverage much better! Matthews is an idiot who deserves to be fired!

[LisaL]

18. WTF?

Looks like Kerry picked up more votes than Bush did in provisional and absentee ballots in OH.
What are they even talking about?

[Patsy Stone]

21. It's called Spin and Lie

You should be used to it by now...

[Patsy Stone]

23. She just said Tom Brokaw's from a Red State -- Who cares???

...Because they are the uniting party. Not dividers.

[RaulVB]

22. Is a "drive by" statement...

She knows that's a lie but not it was said on TV and some moron will believe it.

Typical MSM tactic.

[politicasista]

26. If he picked up som e votes why is Bush still leading?

:wtf:

[RaulVB]

29. Because Bush was "leading" by 136.000 votes before...

Kerry is just reducing the gap at this point.

[LisaL]

30. Because Bush's lead is too big for Kerry to overtake him.

[politicasista]

33. I guess Ohio is still a GOP state

Everyone loves Smirky despite his faults. What a joke!

[Patsy Stone]

20. Yes, she's just making it up as she goes along.

Don't forget the reason Satan Baker III said there was no need to recount, because the votes had been counted and counted again. Which, of course, they weren't.

[driver8]

58. Spin, Spin, Spin!! I'm sick of this shit!

These idiots get on tv and spout any garbage that they want and the public is supposed to believe this as the "truth"? I guess "average americans" think that anyone on tv must be important and therefore must be correct??

Why doesn't anyone see that this is about our democracy? Also, it it's not going to change the results of the election, why are they all afraid of a recount?

My stomach is in knots...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Anyone who says, "It won't affect the total outcome......

Knew that they were padding in non-swing states plenty, and knew that anything they had to add to the swing states to make the booger win, would be offset, on the whole.

How diabolical...Wonder how they came up with the $3.5 million number. Bet that was a great debate. Someone said $4mm and some else said $3 ??????

[ahyums]

25. So why does MSNBC continue to be the only channel

which covers this story properly, are they taking Olberman's lead, being influenced by him though talking to him, or is this a corporate decision of some kind?

[New Earth]

28. well

isn't MSNBC owned by Microsoft? And i don't for sure, but i would think Microsoft doesn't contribute to Bush campaign....but i kind of pulled that out of my ass..

[Patsy Stone]

35. Bill Gates loves Chimp. n/t

[Qutzupalotl]

38. Unfortunately, they do.

At least Gates does. Go figure.

[LisaL]

41. It's probably those tax cuts to super rich.

I am sure Gates is one of a few who benefits from Chimpy's tax cuts.

[Patsy Stone]

43. I'm thinking Government Contracts

and don't think those GEMS tabulators don't run on Windows...

[flyarm]

50. remember gates was under investigation ...

for a long time under clintons admin..about a monopoly..in soft ware...he was under investigation and suits by clintons attorney general..it was a long case...fly:argh: :argh:

[Zen Democrat]

55. Gates went Republican after the Dem Justice Department filed anti-trust

on him for bundling Windows and Explorer.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

42. I thought they were owned by GE n/t

[FloridaCrat]

51. Gates bought a reduced slap on the wrist after being found GUILTY of US

ANTITRUST laws - Illegal Use of Monopoly Power, through huge donations to the repugs. Microsoft was found GUILTY in April of 2000 and one of the first things Ashcroft did was to soft peddle the remedy phase of the suit. One of the things being called for by the 13 states that were co-plaintiffs was to split Microsoft into several companies. The US ended up settling for much less, obviously. Several states as well as the European Union refused to settle. The EU actions are still on the agenda and I think they will be far more serious about the penalty phase than the US was.

[ginnyinWI]

60. no, GE owns NBC and MSNBC n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. Before the election, out of CBS, CNN, ABC they seemed to

me to be the most liberal (I use that word loosely)to me. But they are really as bad as the others -- except for Oberman.

[Patsy Stone]

32. Ratings...We're watching aren't we?

Whoring around trying to jump on the bandwagon...or, in the words of Katherine Blackwell: Running around the block to get out in front of the parade.

Let's all turn it off for 10 until KO. Ok, go!

[Karenca]

27. Orin from the NYPOST'''''''

The skank from the rag
Shut up Deb........I cant stand this.
I'll wait for Keith

[Zookeeper]

37. I haven't watched Tweety since the election....

He's a total flake and is usually sporting a boner for some Rethuglican shill.

However, we should all e-mail MSNBC and point out that it's NOT about whether or not an investigation changes the results! It's about fair and honest election practices!!!!

[Patsy Stone]

39. Amen, Brother!

I was writing as we speak. But write to her too. She needs some clarification with all that Murdoch air in the NY Post offices.

[saracat]

44. I guess I'm immature but for me

it IS about changing the election results.

[Zookeeper]

48. Oh, Saracat, I'd be thrilled if that happened...

but (IMHO) the point we need to hammer home is that our elections must be conducted honestly. And even Rethugs will care if they realize that future elections could also be rigged for the DEMS.

On a personal note, even if we end up stuck with Smirk for four more years, it will be gratifying to see his election "victory" exposed as shady and questionable. So much for a mandate.

[driver8]

61. If we can't change the election, make it hell for rethugs! n/t

[Helga Scow Stern]

40. Just lying about something doesn't make it go away.....

this is only going to get bigger. It is like a volcano beneath the surface. We must keep it in the world of the real as the spin machines go on full blast. We do that by talking to each other. When it is time, we will be out in the streets.

[jsascj]

45. Olberman's on and will be talking about it

[understandinglife]

46. Just say, HALT and....

....remind everyone one of these media darlins we, as citizens of the franchise are the controlling stakeholders and then say:

"I Declare The 2004 Election Invalid: Someone I do not know was prevented from voting"

We will prevail in this, just as the Ukrainian opposition did tonight.

[lonestarnot]

59. 2004 Election Invalid - bushit illegitimate and jeb too

He wouldn't make a pimple on a real presidents ass!

[Jimdish25]

63. It's not just about counting provisionals!

Especially in Florida!. But also in Ohio it involves whether or not the votes cast on "regular" ballots were counted and tabulated properly. Is there something I'm missing here other than two idiots guessing if Kerry is going to get 80 or 90% of the "provisional" vote and then trying to get a few yuks out of it?

I predict there will come a time when Matthews takes this seriously. But who the hell cares.

[AgadorSparticus]

65. AAAAH! ROFL tweety is pushed to talk about votergate b/c of KO

i guess the latest viewer ratings for countdown didn't settle too well in the hardball court. :evilgrin: LOL

hey twitty, i'm STILL not going to watch your pathetic show, you whore!

[tbuddha]

66. Matthews isn't a republican...

he's becoming a republican whore though

[vitoria]

67. My dad passed away Nov. 2 - before he could vote for JK

Election day had to be the most devestating day of my life. A double-whammy.

He was standing in line to vote in Akron, Ohio, when he collapsed from a heart attack (supposedly, although still waiting for autopsy report/death certificate). He was 75 yrs old - never been to a doctor in his life - a little stubborn about doctors, etc., but we thought he was in excellent health (slim, athletic) so never pushed it too much.

We don't know exactly how long he stood in line, although we heard it was only for about hour (my mom wasn't with him - she always preferred to vote later in the day - he always voted when polls opened)

Strangely enough, he was at my home for dinner Sunday evening (a traditional Italian family tradition) before Election Day. That night, I urged him and my mom to go to to vote at the local Election Bureau on Monday instead of standing in long lines in the cold forecasted rain on Tuesday. My dad proudly said he never missed an Election Day in his life, and that standing in line wouldn't bother him. I tried, obviously not enough! In the long run, I guess it was going to happen, one way or another....

My dad was a liberal democrat, a dedicated veteran, and absolutely hated Bush and his regime. Boy, I wish he could have had a chance to vote! On the other hand, I'm kinda glad he never learned of the devastating Ohio results.

Been lurking here for a long time. I saw Kerry at Akron University in March and fell in love with the guy, although he had my vote and I was impressed with him earlier on from watching him on c-span, etc. Another rally in late August in Akron and I was more than hooked on him. I miss him so bad. Every time I see the Chimp on tv I can't believe 1/2 of our country is so stupid.

Thanks for keeping me sane. For sanity, I read DU often.

[proudtobeadem]

69. I'm sorry about your Dad, I lost mine years ago, at least when he went

he probably went thinking Kerry would win (although he may still in the end). Welcome to DU, stay awile, it really does help. :)

[Zookeeper]

70. Welcome to DU, Vitoria....

'So sorry to hear about your dad. I think your story should be heard by the media. Have you sent it to anyone else? Maybe Olbermann?

Best wishes to you...:hug:

[Blue in the face]

72. I'm so sorry

That is so tragic, my thoughts go out to you and your family.

[Wordie]

68. He doesn't get it. I'm sending this article from Newsweek to Matthews.

Its by Steven Levy. Here's a taste:

<snip>
It would be easy to dismiss this bunch as a society of paranoids. Indeed, their complaints seem beyond the pale when key e-voting critics claim that despite some problems, there's no evidence that the outcome was affected. Anyway, at this point, even pictures of Karl Rove personally hacking Diebold machines wouldn't budge the incumbent from the White House. Is it time for these folks to shut up already?

To the contrary, their curmudgeonry serves an important purpose. The nature of the ATM-style voting terminals used by a third of the country in 2004—and set to increase over the next few cycles—doesn't merely invite controversy. It makes doubt a permanent part of the process. The problem is that the new devices have no way of proving to the voter that his or her choice is reported in the final tally. Researchers have demonstrated that the machines themselves are not foolproof—and, worse, are potentially susceptible to vote-stealing schemes. <unsnip>

It's a really good article. I hope Matthews will read it. Here's the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6595385/site/newsweek
So, even with Matthews' dismissiveness, there is still more and more info coming out that confirms what we are saying.

[Zookeeper]

71. Great article! Thanks for the link. n/t