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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:06 PM
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In your opinion, what is the best literary representation of mental illness?
For me, it is the character of John Smith in Sherman Alexie's Indian Killer. His psychological disintegration is driven by history and racism. I have rarely felt so much from a character.

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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:07 PM
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1. My vote goes to "The Bell Jar"
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:08 PM
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2. i need to read that n/t
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:10 PM
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3. The Children's Hour
Because a sane and innocent person starts to doubt herself when surrounded by lies.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:11 PM
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4. I Nver Promised You A Rose Garden.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:12 PM
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5. Gregor Samsa
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:13 PM
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6. Hannibal Rising
is the epitome of mental illness.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:14 PM
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8. i always wondered what such a character could represent, that makes sense n/t
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:24 PM
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21. It explains Dr. Lector's pathology
you understand how and why he became a monster.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:14 PM
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7. One Flew Over the Cucoos Nest, perhaps.
And Catch 22, for insanity of a different sort.

Wasn't sure if you talking about a character's mental illness or the viewpoint of a system, or of an author's mental illness.
or fiction or non-fiction.
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:16 PM
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9. Dubya's future autobiography.... nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:16 PM
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10. That is a good one for paranoia turned into homicidal rage
but there is one harrowing internal dialogue in "Postcards from the Edge" by Carrie Fisher (really) that is the best explanation for what goes on inside an addict's head that I've ever read.

It's not easy reading for those of us without addictions and I imagine it would be painful for those who have confronted them. The rest of the book is witty but so-so. That one dialog should be required reading for anyone who is living with an addict, though. There's no way to read it and not get it.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:24 PM
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14. all the characters in Indian Killer
had very distinct and believable mental worlds, his white parents in particular, i remain in awe
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:24 PM
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17. I've been in awe of Sherman Alexie for many years
He hasn't managed to write a single bad book. Well, if he has, he's got the manuscript hidden somewhere no one will ever find it.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 08:42 PM
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32. His poetry is just as good as his prose, imo.
We are just adding his newest to our high school curriculum.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:18 PM
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11. A lack of conscious or empathy for a group is more then a mental illness
It is a mind set. If a person does not care about a group, they can treat it like a thing not a person.

Empathy must be wide, and encompass many peoples for people to treat them with dignity.

And in the past we see many examples of people, that through creating a lack of empathy for others, can do terrible things, mostly for self gain.


Love your enemy is really important, and has a huge reason.

Even if you go to battle against someone, if you can still care about them, you will restrain where others hurt, you will talk where others hate, and you will heal where others kill.

Yet you still win the battle, and also the actually good in the world increases.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:20 PM
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12. Jack Prescott in "An Instance of the Fingerpost" is a good example
of someone descending into madness.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:21 PM
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13. On the subject of adolescent / young adult females...
Girl, Interrupted by Susanna Kaysen and Cut by Patricia McCormick.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:28 PM
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15. Fight Club
and also Girl Interrupted.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 03:34 PM
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16. "The Crack-Up" by F. Scott Fitzgerald
I don't think these essay and letters were ever meant to be published, which makes them all the more ravaging, as you read the thoughts of a man who was losing everything. That they were compiled and published after his death made me feel, as I read them, that I was peering, unbidden and unwelcome, into the locked diary of someone I never knew. I felt like a pure interloper, a voyeur, and his words changed my life.....................
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 04:46 PM
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18. "The Double bind", by Chris Bohjalian. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 05:25 PM
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19. For individual characters exhibiting mental illness, you can't do much
better than Roger in Golding's LORD OF THE FLIES. He appears to be an overt sociopath.

There are not many literary characters who are beyond redemptive measure, but of the very few there are, I'd rate Roger at the top of the list.

Joan Didion's novels are peopled with several unstable and self-destructive characters. Charlotte Douglas in A BOOK OF COMMON PRAYER would be a contender.


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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 06:15 PM
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20. Lord of the Flies was a very important book for me in 7th grade
i must reread it soon
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-12-09 09:00 PM
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22. Golding gets the job done, that's for sure. Some gritty, blood-racing
moments, plus there is 'Roger,' certainly a sadist, and so far as I know the most remorseless and unredeemable character in fiction.
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Onceuponalife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 12:49 AM
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23. Robert Bloch's "Psycho" n/t
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:55 AM
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24. Toss up between the narrator of "The Yellow Wallpaper," by Charlotte Perkins Gilman, and
the narrator of Susanna Kayson's "Girl, Interrupted." The former has crippling post-partum depression, (which Gilman portrays with gut-wrenching accuracy) and the latter has been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder (whether or not the narrator actually had or has this problem is for readers to decide, I think, but Kayson captures her sense of alienation quite well.)
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 07:54 AM
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25. "Going Wrong" by Ruth Rendell.

She takes you inside the protagonist's mind and you can understand his convoluted thinking.




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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 04:55 PM
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26. ***thanks for all the great posts and suggestions***
:applause:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 01:42 PM
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27. Sybil
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auditguy Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 04:23 PM
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28. 'The Bird's Nest' by Shirley Jackson
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:43 PM
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29. Lisa, Bright and Dark
by John Neufeld


Except I think it helped make me "more crazy" when I was in highschool. I worried about my mental state even then.
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libguy9560 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 04:45 AM
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30. It's a toss up between
Catcher in the Rye or One flew over the cuckoo's nest.
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litlady Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 01:00 PM
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31. The Yellow Wallpaper should get a nod. nt
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bluescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 03:51 PM
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33. Madness in Literature
That was the title of a Comparative Literature course I took in college back in the 1970's. The reading list for that course contians many excellent candidates. Ones I recall include:

The Sufferings of Young Werther, by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
The Bacchae, by Euripides
Don Quixote, by Cervantes
Hamlet, by William Shakespeare
No Longer Human, by Osamu Dazai
Nausea, by Jean Paul Sartre
Moby Dick, by Herman Melville
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:50 PM
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34. I don't do "bests," but I agree that John Smith is definitely a contender.
I felt such pain for him.
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 01:44 PM
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35. The Speed of Dark
A near-future story told from the point of view of an autistic man, offered the chance to be "cured" of his autism. Written by Elizabeth Moon, a woman who happens to have an autistic son.

Although I'd also have to agree that Lisa, Bright and Dark ranks up there, too.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 05:33 PM
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36. "The Beach" by Alex Garland.....the movie sucked but the novel was exceptional
The mental disintegration was slow but terrifying
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-30-09 10:36 PM
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37. "Good Morining, Midnight" - Jean Rhys...clinical depression
"Crime and Punishment" - Dostoyevsky...paranoia

"The Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold" - Evelyn Waugh...psychosis
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:16 AM
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38. My nomination would be "Hangover Square" by Patrick Hamilton ...
... an author shamefully neglected, even in his native UK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Hamilton_(dramatist)

BTW the Film Noir of the same title is only loosely based on the novel and not half as good IMHO

The Skin
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 10:11 AM
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39. Maybe Septimus, from Mrs. Dalloway.
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 10:11 AM by smoogatz
Woolf nails his perceptions, at least to my ear. And she had some considerable personal experience with mental illness to back it up, of course.
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