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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:27 PM
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The Men Who Stare at Goats. What a weird read.
Any thoughts on Jon Ronson's look at the madness in military intelligence?

I'm about 3/4 of the way through it. I just don't know what to think.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:28 PM
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1. "military intelligence" is the ultimate oxymoron
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:47 PM
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2. I've read excerpts...
... and I find his style and language very quirky and well-suited to the subject. It's a sort of "Carlos Castaneda Meets the Three Stooges" tale. It's on my upcoming reading list when I'm done with current projects.

Cheers.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 02:10 AM
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3. I really liked it but in one sense, I'm not sure I allowed myself to
believe it. I'm not saying its not all true, I'm sure it is. But...when you let yourself think that there is a guy working for us who keeps running into walls because he believes he can pass through them.

Yowza. It was a great quirky fun to read book.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:43 AM
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5. It was also a three part TV series
I saw him interviewed - mad as a hatter. Here's a lecture he gave in the early 90's on RV:

http://www.crvmanual.com/docs/lecture0592.html
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 02:42 AM
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4. Ronson's earlier book "THEM" is even better
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 12:01 PM
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6. Ronson's one of my heros
As somebody's said - Them is probably better (Alex Jones, David Icke, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, OKC, Ruby Ridge, Ian Paisley, Omar bakri Mohammed, ...) but Goats is very weird, unbelievable at times (although I knew about the Remote Viewing (there's a really good book about it, buggered if I can remember the title) & the whole Olsen LSD case).

He made both books into TV series' - Secret Rulers of the World and Crazy Rules of the World - which you hopefully can download via edonkey from here:

http://www.rinf.com/articles/jon-ronson.html

If you have trouble, I know the Bilderberg & Bohmeian Grove ones are kicking around the net (conspiracy theorists love them - it was with Ronson that Alex Jones got the "Ceremony of Care" footage from Bohemian Grove). The network Trio picked up the first series a couple of years after it aired, so perhaps it'll do the same for "Crazy Rulers".

(At the above link, there's also a six-part BBC Radio 4 series he did & links to various articles)

Them is being turned into a film, written by Mike White (School of Rock, The Good Girl, Chuck & Buck) and directed by Edgar Wright (Shaun of the Dead

Ronson also writes a small, humorous, weekly piece in the Guardian called "Out of the Ordinary" - this search link pulls up many of them:

http://browse.guardian.co.uk/search?search=jon+ronson

Finally, here's his website which has links to a fair bit of stuff. The forum's a good place too, especially as Jon posts there every now & then.

http://www.jonronson.com/

Also FYI, here's a link to Jim Channon's "First Earth Battalion" manual:

http://ejmas.com/jnc/jncart_channon_0200.htm

(per Channon, he's advising the Pentagon again)

and you can pick up a First Earth Battalion T-Shirt here!:

http://www.offkilter.co.uk/feb/

Okay, I'll stop my fan wankery now!
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