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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:58 PM
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'Fiasco' by Thomas E. Ricks...
I thought this was a good read...It's a long read...about 439 pages, but I felt it was an
interesting perspective of this botched war in Iraq. I didn't agree with him on some things, but
an interesting read nonetheless.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 12:08 AM
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1. An excellent book nt
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 12:17 AM
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2. I have a stack of about 5 books and fiasco is in the middle.
I have to first finish Greatest Story Ever Sold and Imperial Life in the Emerald City.
I have heard Fiasco is top notch.
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FastHorizon Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-09-07 12:47 PM
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8. Almost done with...
Imperial Life in the Emerald City. Highly recommended.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 12:59 AM
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3. may I ask
a couple of things you did not agree with him on - please, thanks
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:06 AM
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4. It's no so much I disagree with him, but
I felt he should have mentioned the Downing Street memo, and also Chalabi's activities prior to
Bushco taking over. Other than those two things, the book imo was first rate.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:16 AM
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5. OK thanks
it's on my reading list
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 12:39 PM
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6. Im about 100 pages into it
Very good so far.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:45 PM
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7. It is for the most part an excellent summary of what has gone wrong in Iraq
and why. Very few in the administration come off well, and some come off as real villains. Not that Ricks is manipulating the facts to present a partisan picture--not at all. He just doesn't pull the punches American journalists are trained to pull to seem "fair" and "balanced."

The big creeps in the narrative: Cheney, of course, particularly for forcing the "dialogue" on Iraq to the far right before it was even out of the gate in August 2002; Wolfowitz, for having his head stuck way up his ass from day one; Bremer, for making two of the most disastrous decisions in almost immediate succession upon his arrival in Baghdad in late spring 2003, mistakes the "coalition" and the Iraqi people are still paying dearly for; Myers for being a stinking sycophant; Sanchez for being in above his head and responding to it by shutting down; Rumsfeld for caring more about his power than about doing his job well. And, of course, Bush, for being utterly and hopelessly without a clue--even to his utter, hopeless cluelessness.
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