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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:27 AM
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I'm probably gona get my ass kicked for this but...
Are there any good books by politically conservative authors or ones which have a conservative slant?

I know that PJ O'Rouke is good.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:28 AM
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1. Florence King is very funny.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:29 AM
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2. William Saffire's novels are accomplished and --
-- interesting. I'd skip his political ideology in his daily columns, but his command of language is sublime.

But balance it out with Gore Vidal's JULIAN.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:40 AM
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3. P J O'Rourke is a waste, just awful. How about Edmund Burke?
Or Chesterton. Or Father Guido Sarducci!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 08:35 PM
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6. Yes, Burke is a good choice.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 12:46 AM
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4. Pat Buchanan is said to somewhat lucid (sometimes)
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:23 AM
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9. Pat makes perfect sense sometimes
then goes off the deep end other times.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 09:53 AM
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5. O'Rourke WAS good, but no more. Like all conservatives, he's a sore winner
Edited on Thu Jan-13-05 09:54 AM by Inland
and the ascendancy of the right turned him more sour than funny.
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I_Love_Oregon Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:26 PM
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7. the best conservative I can think of
is Michael Medved. He has a new book called "Right Turns". I've thumbed through it, and it's pretty good.

Most of the others are morons, but Medved is tough.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:03 AM
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8. Oh, no! Read it again!
He's one of the biggest rightwingmorans around. Ugh.
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I_Love_Oregon Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:53 PM
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10. I don't mean "best" as in good
I mean "best" at stating his case. He does it well, and we need not be afraid as Democrats to engage.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 11:53 AM
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11. He doesn't state his case well.
His sophistry is horrific. He's a propagandist who follows the usual pattern of today's right wing. Nothing more.

It's not about engagement or not engagement. He's just among the worst of the worst. He's another Limbaugh, though he uses bigger words. In the end, there is no difference.
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I_Love_Oregon Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 12:06 PM
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12. Wrong
You've either never heard the guy's show, or you're confusing him with Mike Savage,who is a nut job of the highest order.

Mike Medved is a clear thinker who specializes in taking phone calls from our side of the debate. This allows for a real discussion to occur.. I highly recommend listening to him some day to see for yourself.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 07:43 PM
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13. No, I'm right.
I've heard the show and read his crap. Just because he's not Savage doesn't mean he knows how to make an argument. He is anything but a clear thinker. And if you call that real discussion, then I think you need to get out more.

Really!
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I_Love_Oregon Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:23 AM
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14. ok, just keep your head in the echo chamber
and at least you'll feel better. Me, on the other hand, would rather no my enemy in order to defeat him. Therefore, I will listen to the other side, engage him when possible, and do my best to convert him to my point of view. You keep the dial locked onto Air America.
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 03:23 AM
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15. No, you're wrong!
actually, I'm just teasing. I don't even know who Michael Medved is. I thought he was a movie critic.
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:26 AM
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16. Movie critic? Me too.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:52 AM
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17. LOL! (Reply to post number 14, not 15)
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 12:54 AM by HuckleB
Yeah, talk radio's gonna teach you a lot all right. Enjoy the same old, same old, day in and day out. Sure, I check in now and then, but it never changes. And, yeah, I wasted my time on it years ago. Life is too precious. You won't actually understand your enemy by wasting your poor ears there.

You are full of assumptions, aren't you?

:eyes:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:53 AM
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18. Actually, he does do that. Or did, at least, on his website.
More of a "family-friendly" vs. "not family-friendly" schtick. But...
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:34 AM
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26. Savage is funny sometimes
I listen to him on the way home from work.

He'll start a sentence about a tax bill and end the sentence explaining the proper way to cook linguini. Then like Forrest Gump he'll say, "and that's all I want to say about that." Makes me laugh.
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MissBrooks Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 10:41 PM
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19. PJ is hilarious...
As long as he steers clear of politics.

I read a few articles he wrote - about cars and about the America's Cup - I swear I laughed out loud!

He mentioned the most important thing about watching the America's Cup is the essential Gin and Tonic.

I thought it was funny.

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-21-05 12:14 AM
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20. Pete Peterson, Running on Empty
is supposed to be good.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-23-05 01:51 AM
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21. A few of Patricia Cornwell's mysteries are OK. Wry Martinis is funny.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:30 PM
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24. Wry Martinis. Christopher Buckley is funny...
His fiction is hilarious too, most of the time.
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McFlyGuy Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:44 AM
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22. Colin Powel's book is good
A soldier's life... very right wing but some interesting stories. all the military jargon is confusing. interesting passage about his opposition to gays serving openly in the military, bordering on homophobic.
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fugrepugs84 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:28 AM
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23. I'm pretty convinced
that the words "conservative author" and "good" don't belong in the same sentence. Look at journalists like Mark Steyn for example! It's all fluff.
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:29 PM
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25. O'Rourke has one joke
and he tells it over and over and over...
How about Our Enemy The State?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:15 AM
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27. I find Christopher Buckley usually pretty funny...
...although his latest (Florence of Arabia) uses some pretty grating comic devices (eg car bombs) that - to give him the benefit of the doubt - I'll assume he wrote before the IEDs really started going off in Iraq.

"Thank you For Smoking" and "Little Green Men" are great. "Wry Martinis is pretty good, too, as I recall.
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adwon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 11:48 AM
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28. Two suggestions
PJ is one of my favorite writers. Parliament of Whores is simply one of the best political books ever written, in my limited range of opinion.

Another is William F. Buckley, Jr. Buckley is much more Old Right than today's batch of Republicans. While I don't find myself agreeing with him much at all, he's a great counterpoint for questioning many of my political beliefs. Plus, he's an excellent writer.

Oh, Pat Buchanan is not for the faint of heart. While I think Pat can raise some questions that are rarely asked by anyone on any side of the aisle, too often his solutions are just wacky. The upside of Pat is that the structure and analysis of his arguments are well-written and easy to follow. The major downside of Pat is that the vast majority of his solutions are just irrelevant.
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