Torchwood fans...apparently John Barrowman is in talks to join...get this

[xultar]

Desperate Housewives.

Fucking PUKE alert.

Why would he want to be on that stupid ass show. He's so hot. So Gay. I love that guy, I know it will open him up to the US market which isn't a bad thing but he's so delicious as Captain Jack.

:cry:

[CakeGrrl]

1. Mainstream exposure...can't beat it if you're an actor in these times,

I guess.

Well, if he can share a screen with Gale Harold, aka Queer as Folk's Brian Kinney, it won't be for naught.

:P

[xultar]

4. John loves to kiss so maybe there will be outtakes of those two flirting on the set

There is a youtube of John kissing the guy from Dr. Who @ comic con and it is so cute.

I love me some John B. He's Gay and proud and that is so sexy.

[Xithras]

20. Not so much in private.

Harrowman has been in a serious relationship with someone since the early 90's and has a civil union. Most of the "kissing" is simply part of the characters he plays in public eye. When the cameras are off, he's apparently very devoted to his partner.

I doubt that he'll be flirting with his co-workers, unless it's in the script or part of his on-camera characters persona.

[xultar]

22. Oh I know. His husbands name is Scott Gill right? Something like that.

Can't I make a funny?

[Xithras]

24. Lol, yeah, but I think he prefers the term partner.

Believe me, I may be a bi-man married to a woman, but that same thought went through my head. One of the beautiful things about my wife is that she'd probably get mad at me only over the fact that SHE didn't get a shot at him ;)

And Barrowman has spoken publicly about his opposition to the use of the term "marriage" for gay unions. He is a huge critic of any sort of organized religion, and sees "marriage" as a religious institution...and therefore a tainted term. He prefers the terms "union" and "partner".

Keep in mind, though, that in the UK the term "partner" is commonly used by all sexual orientations (especially among the younger generations), and denotes equality. He comes at it from a different perspective than we do. Still, we should probably respect his choice.

[xultar]

25. True.

[Deja Q]

2. It's a popular show, he's an actor, he wants to make more money.

Also, if he's really on the market, I'll buy him for exclusive use. Of course, that might ebb his Cap'n Jack character, which chats up and tries to screw every person he finds (great, more stereotype-enforcing on the part of the idiot who wrote Jack's character...)

[enlightenment]

3. I don't think he's on that market.

Happily married, last I heard . . .

[xultar]

6. Fucking A. Straight up. John is in the UK where the GLBT community is better respected

than here.

Us people who look @ the show through the bullshit we have going on here think Captain Jack is stereotype because the IS is fucked up. When in the UK it isn't.

[xultar]

5. Seriously, Jack is from the future, and in the future we're all screwing everyone AND

thank god.
The gender of your partner isn't as important in the future.

Isn't that what we are striving for? Right? That race, sexuality, ethnicity, religion isn't important in the future...

AND ANOTHER THING...

The UK is WAY fucking ahead on GLBT awareness and Torchwood is a show from the UK. So quit thinkin with your American backwards ass bullshit hat on.

[iamjoy]

7. I Never Saw Harkness That Way

I never saw Captain Harkness as enforcing stereotypes about, well, gay people because he isn't gay or even bisexual. This is a man from the 51st century and it doesn't seem right to label his identity in such "old-fashioned" terms.

He does not try to screw every person he finds, he just oozes charisma from every pore. As a straight female I never thought I'd find two guys kissing as hot, but somehow, when it's Captain Jack Harkness...
Oh, and I wouldn't have expected to find it gross, either. It seems like a lot of shows that have same sex kissing are doing it to try to be daring and get attention. It doesn't seem natural on the part of the characters/actors and they always make such a big deal about it. On Torchwood it always seemed so right.

And I believe Russell Davies is gay (as is John Barrowman), so I don't believe there's any intention to harm.

[xultar]

10. No shit. And it is a show from the UK. Americans need to quit putting their

backwards ass sensabilities on other countries.

I'd rather that the show not be on the air here, hell pull BBC America all to-fucking-gether if Americans can't see past their own backwards asses to look to people who have made the jump into acceptance.

[iamjoy]

27. I Had a Lower Opinion of Owen Harper

than of Jack Harkness. I mean, Harkness seemed to respect that Gwen had a boyfriend and never really went after her that way. Owen Harper didn't care.

Now I say this not to bash Owen, who had his own demons. This is after all, a television show, not reality. But if we are going to talk about stereotypes, why not talk about men and women who aren't faithful, or who go after sexual partners already taken? There are plenty of straight people who do that. I guess I am a backwards American because I do look down on people who screw around on a partner.

And one thing I like about the show is it seems to show same-gender sexual encounters in a way that is not negative, doesn't seem to exploit and doesn't drag out all the old stereotypes.

[JoDog]

21. There was a throwaway line

in TW season 2 where Jack explains his luck with all sexes. Apparently, by the 51st century, human pheromones had evolved to become much more powerful than our weak, 21st century ones. Contemporary humans cannot resist. All Jack has to do is turn on the charm.

I never really viewed Jack as a stereotype either, and I don't think he's played as such. He just comes from a time and place where people have given up pigeonholing sexuality. He likes all kinds of sex, and isn't ashamed of it. The rouge's charm Barrowman gives him has made him such a great character.

[xultar]

23. I love the eppy where he meets the dr who is experimenting with the bugs

Martha Jones from Dr. Who is in the eppy and Jack gets all flirty with the Dr running the bug test trials...

Oh and the one where they meet the guy who's wife died and there was sports equipment under the bed. ROFL.

[Gothmog]

8. Is Torchwood going to be renewed?

I saw one rumor that it was going to be renewed and then saw that the talks were not final.

[xultar]

11. Yes there is a season 4. Don't know how they will do it, maybe another mini

like they did with Children of Earth. IF that is the case maybe John can do BOTH!!!

[Xithras]

18. Davies wants Torchwood to be all miniseries for now on.

He said that his ideal season would consist of two or three miniseries run back to back. The question is whether the BBC will fund it, since Children of Earth cost the BBC as much as an entire normal season of Torchwood.

Plus, Barrowman is apparently an expensive actor to hire nowadays. He's all over the place in Britain.

[xultar]

19. I wish he was all over the place @ my house. I'm so in love with him and Vin Diesel.

Yes. I know strange but each so hot in their own ways.

[tocqueville]

9. Jack Harkness is ubisexual

and he can fuck a lot of aliens

[xultar]

12. Well, he is from the future. He can fuck me anytime.

[tocqueville]

13. I am from Europa, does that count ?

:eyes:

[xultar]

14. nope.

[tocqueville]

15. damn

[Behind the Aegis]

28. Hell no, girl! Get in line..forms behind me!

He might be a little worse for wear, but...

[Occulus]

29. Actually, I think he said he was "omnisexual" on the show

All directions, bless his heart.

Or, as his onetime partner (played by James Marsters) put it (paraphrasing here):

"Oooh, look at..."

"That's a poodle."

:D

(I think that was either in or around "Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang")

Sadly, I do think we saw the end of Torchwood as an episodic series with "Children of Earth". If CoE really did cost an entire seasons' worth of cash to produce, we'll be very lucky to see even one miniseries next year, much less a full year of individual episodes. That's a shame and a waste of a wonderful franchise, of course, but both the economy and the writers put the show into a corner (given Ianto and Jack, what's to become of this Army of One? Martha and Mickey? Do not want).

I intentionally made that as vague as possible for reasons that become clear once you've seen all there is to see (which is itself intentionally vague for spoilerific reasons).

I'd love to see another full season of Torchwood, but I don't see how it would be possible unless they did a flash forward into the future, so a team with Gwen and Jack and whomever else could congeal out of the CoE aftermath or- defying all reason and logic- do the unthinkable and the previously undone by tying the series into Doctor Who very very tightly, making the watching of both shows essential to the understanding of the underlying plot for the shows' respective seasons.

I know that's a long shot (and one frell of a long sentence), but I think maybe they should make Doctor/Torchwood a two hour block that maintains continuity and intricately integrates the plot across two shows for an entire season. I think it's the only way to save both.

If one has to go, though, I vote for Torchwood. The pedigree of The Doctor alone must be preserved. Wrap it up with one final miniseries, tie up all the loose ends, and let it go. It has always been a hell of a ride, and I'd be sad to lose it, but if the time has come to pull the plug, end it on a high note.

[tocqueville]

30. the BBC confirmed that Torchwood has been picked for a fourth serie

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Torchwood_episodes

I used ubisexual as a neologism made with "ubiquitous"

Children of Earth hasn't been aired in France yet

[Xithras]

16. I makes sense why they'd want him.

People have complained that Bob & Lee have been little more than "gay windowdressing" on the show, and since the guy playing Andrew is leaving, the ability to insert a gay-oriented storyline becomes a bit harder. Barrowman not only opens the possibility for more interesting storylines with those characters, he's also a hell of a lot better looking than the guy who played Andrew.

I'd imagine the storyline would involve all of the housewives drooling madly over the hot new guy down the street, only to find him in bed with Bob or Lee one morning.

[xultar]

17. I wonder if I can get cast as either Bob or Lee in time for that to happen...

I am a gay man trapped in a woman's body you know. I guess I couldn't have the surgery by then but a little CGI and no one would be the wiser.

[loyalkydem]

26. Okay

Not sure what to say to that.