OK, let's say, in my hardbodied youth, I send Allentown Jake a masturbation tape

[Nikki Stone1]

I'm going out with him, we've got a good thing going, and I send him a tape to keep him busy at night when I'm away on business.

Now, fast forward 10 years. I am, lets say, a college professor who speaks out against the censorship of a fellow professor. I get on TV and Jake, who is down on his luck, decides to sell the tape I sent him years ago for money. Suddenly, I am no longer a principled professor speaking out on censorship but a "whore" a "c--t," a prostitute, a bitch. And Jake can pay his rent.

Who is to blame for that?

[Dreamer Tatum]

1. Not getting your point.

What are you saying?

[Nikki Stone1]

7. I am saying that the Carrie Prejean situation brought up an important issue

Whatever you think of Prejean--and I find her stances absolutely appalling--I do not understand why a sex tape made for a boyfriend suddenly makes you a target for left wingers' misogyny.

[Dreamer Tatum]

13. That's a fair point as regards misogyny.nt

[Nikki Stone1]

142. Yeah, and I can see this kind of thing happening to someone a lot less nasty

That's why it worries me.

[MNDemNY]

25. I say the point should be, don't make a fucking tape, or suffer the consequences.

[Nikki Stone1]

31. REALLY??

It's my fault?

[MNDemNY]

39. You made the tape, let it out of your control, the fault lies with your judgment.

Yup. really.

[Nikki Stone1]

51. So I do one thing when I'm crazy about a guy and I have to "pay"?

Come on. Really?

You sound like the fundies.

[MNDemNY]

63. Lapses in judgment always have a price.

Why would it not? The question of "should" is not involved. The fact that it "does" is what is relevant. No body ever said life was fair.

[Nikki Stone1]

67. But my very question was about whether I am at fault, not whether life was fair.

It's clearly not fair.

[MNDemNY]

80. The "price" will be paid, regardless."fault" is irrelevant.

[Nikki Stone1]

83. But you are assuming fault on my part

So it is not irrelevant.

[MNDemNY]

93. No, I am not. responsibility, yes, "fault" that would be subjective. No need to go there.

And as far as Ms faketitties is concerned, she earned the scorn far earlier than this tape.She is merely reaping what she has sown.

[Nikki Stone1]

143. So you have no sympathy for me at all.

:Sigh: :(

[MNDemNY]

156. For you? probably, for the silly pageant queen? nope.

But my sympathies do not lessen the "price", now do they?

[Nikki Stone1]

161. There shouldn't be a price.

But I appreciate that you would have some sympathy for me. :)

[tblue37]

204. The misogyny is nasty, to be sure, but I am also nevertheless

appalled at the incredible stupidity of young pople who do not realize that anything on tape or in pictures is there forever, able to be used against them.

Why do they have to be such narcissists? I think maybe bcause they have been on film since birth--many being filmed even as they are being born. They go through life thinking of events not as experiences, but as photo ops. It's your birthday: hold still for a picture. Look like you're having fun so I can get a video of it! Say something clever for the videocam.

Think of all the young people who lose job opportunities because their prospective employers have googled them and found them on Facebook acting like drunken thugs. No one seems to realize these days that inappropriate behavior, if caught on film, can always come back to bite you in the ass--especially if someone has video of your ass getting bitten.

[dem mba]

131. because she's a hypocrite

who portrays herself as a puritanical child of god, yet had a boob job, poses in bikinis and made a sex tape.

the vitriol would be there if it was Harry Prejean portraying himself as a puritanical child of god, yet had a penis job, worked at Chippendale's and made a sex tape.

[robinlynne]

201. because she was screaming about the immorality of others, specifically gay people.

edited to add; She screamed morals morals morals you have no moralss ll the time to loving people who want only to be together, have a family, have children, honorable things. It's called hypocrisy.

[imdjh]

2. We'd have to see the tape first.

[Nikki Stone1]

10. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

:D

[TheWraith]

28. And engage in detailed analysis.

[dionysus]

3. sorry, the OP header made me spit soda...

:rofl:

[Nikki Stone1]

12. That bad, huh.

:rofl:

[Cali_Democrat]

4. You are to blame

:P

[Nikki Stone1]

18. Now stop sticking out that tongue so provocatively.

:evilgrin:

[AllentownJake]

5. Well if you were a Right Wing Evangelical nut job and I had some gay friends

I'd probably just hand the tape to the media for free

:rofl:

[Nikki Stone1]

20. Oh, come on. You would not.

I don't believe it. :p

[AllentownJake]

29. Oh yeah I would

If I saw someone bashing my gay friends in real life on TV and I had a tape of said person masturbating I'd give the tape to every news outlet.

I'd start with Foxnews, because first you would need a squeegie over there, than you'd have heads explode when the tape showed up on MSNBC.

[Nikki Stone1]

32. Well, then you're not getting the sex tape.

:P

[AllentownJake]

45. Why does every woman I meet always say that to me?

:evilgrin:

[Nikki Stone1]

54. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Serves you right, Fox News!

:rofl:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

91. i would in a heartbeat. you stand against my rights, i will do whatever i can to invalidate

your claim to morality

[Nikki Stone1]

96. Wow, that makes you a hypocrite.

And did you read the OP?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

99. no it doesnt. you cannot both claim greater sexual morality than me, and yet

not have it.

yes, i did read your op.

[Nikki Stone1]

108. Did my OP claim a greater sexual morality?

I was actually fighting censorship if you recall.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

111. no, but the hypothetical i was replying to was different. i was replying to the hypothetical

in which you were a crazy evangelical parading against gay marriage.


in prejeans case she made a moral stance against gays based on sexuality. she has no ground to stand on.

[Nikki Stone1]

113. But that wasn't my OP. What would you do in the case of my OP?

That was my question.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

114. you do understand that i can reply to different parts of the thread

i replied to your op seperately

i was replying to a subthread. in which, you were an evangelical.

"Well if you were a Right Wing Evangelical nut job and I had some gay friends
Edited on Tue Nov-10-09 01:27 PM by AllentownJake
I'd probably just hand the tape to the media for free "

That is the subthread along which i was replying

[Nikki Stone1]

117. But I never said I was an evangelical. That was someone else's post

So using the pronoun "you" toward me is unfair since I didn't post it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

136. umm. we are all talking hypotheticals, right? so i responded where you told this

person that they would never send it in.

i dont think you should take things so personally. its a bit strange.

here is what i responded to specifically "Oh, come on. You would not.
I don't believe it. :p "

[Nikki Stone1]

138. OK, now I'm really confused.

Let's start again.

I am, let's say, a college professor. In my past I made a sex tape for a guy (or girl) I was crazy about. So now, 10 years later, I am trying to help a professor buddy who has been censored. Fox Noise buys my tape from TMZ (who got if from an ungrateful ex--it was a really excellent tape :) ) Now Fox is showing it to prove how awful liberal college professors are. What would be your response?

[cliffordu]

6. Ask Jake to send me a copy, as I need to see all of the evidence before I decide.

[Nikki Stone1]

119. Assume it's a really excellent tape.

:evilgrin:

[cliffordu]

173. I have absolutely no doubt that it is.....

:evilgrin:

[Nikki Stone1]

186. Well, it had to keep the guy home at night.

:D

[cliffordu]

188. ...And busy, too!!!!

:rofl:

[Soylent Brice]

132. +1

we can set up a panel to decide it's credibility as evidence.





:hide:

[Nikki Stone1]

177. Well, to be fair you'll have to have a few lesbians on the panel too

They'd actually have a clue of what they were looking at and how it should be judged.

:evilgrin:

[imdjh]

8. Well, since I am constantly amazed that there aren't gay men stepping forward with stories about....

..... Republican men they have had sex with in the past, then I can hardly fault someone for using such a take to his advantage. I think that if there is a guy out there who has had sex with Charlie Crist and/or Marco Rubio he should come forward to expose these hyposhits for what they are.

[AllentownJake]

9. To the Mods no need to lock this

I don't mind being called out here.

[berni_mccoy]

33. They'll have to see the tape to make that determination.

:rofl:

[rucky]

11. One door closes, another one opens. n/t

[The Midway Rebel]

14. Did you sign a contract that you claimed that you had not done such a thing? n/t

[Nikki Stone1]

26. No. but I am a college professor and teach 18-25 year olds

whose parents might be appalled.

[EOTE]

37. Then your hypothetical doesn't really apply here. NT.

[Nikki Stone1]

43. So for you, it's all about the contract.

But suppose there was no contract but your 19 year old daughter was in my class.

[anigbrowl]

66. Well, if you change enough circumstances it'll fit any scenario

Actually, if my 19 yo daughter was in your class I'd figure she is an adult you can make up her own mind about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with Prejean having made such a tape for her boyfriend...hell, I don't really care if she made it for the whole internet, where it will probably appear sooner or later. My problem is with her presenting herself as a beacon of purity in an immoral world. If she had a 'live and let live' attitude this wouldn't be a big issue, but she doesn't.

[Nikki Stone1]

68. So you'd leave your kid in my class.

OK. That's fair.

[anigbrowl]

123. As far as I'm concerned, her staying in the class or not isn't my decision to make

Even if I disapproved of your class in some way (eg questioning your critical thinking ability), that's an opinion I can express but not act on. Again, the hypothetical case here has so little to do with reality that I think it's useless to try establishing moral equivalences.

[Nikki Stone1]

130. Actually, it's not so far fetched as you think.

No particulars....but trust me on this one. :)

[EOTE]

77. I wouldn't be appalled. I'd let my daughter stay in your class.

But the contract does mean something. She shouldn't have signed it if she knew she couldn't live to its standards. And all of her moral bloviating rings awfully hollow because of her tape as well as other things.

[Nikki Stone1]

81. OK

.

[dddem]

199. As the parent of an 18 year old college student,

If I am willing to send my (adult) child off to experience life in the real (college) world, then I really have no right to be appalled at anything she might be exposed to. If I am, then maybe one of us wasn't ready to cut the cord, as it were.
And to answer your original post, taking the chance that today's boyfriend (or girlfriend) is going to be your life partner is risky. Once the breakup occurs, you should have played it safe and retrieved anything that could be held against you should you ever become famous (or infamous). Sadly, I would say it's your fault, if you can actually be blamed for someone elses lack of discretion (or class if you ask me). Unfortunately, it's the price we pay when we trust. I wouldn't give up on trusting people though.
Peace.

[rd_kent]

15. Depends.....

No woman should be subjected to those kinds of insults for making a sex tape, but if you now call for that tape to not be published, you lose your right to lecture on censorship.......When you made that tape and gave it to him, it became his property to do with as he pleases.

[Dreamer Tatum]

24. Not if she was a minor when it was made nt

[rd_kent]

38. True. Very true.

Now, if they were both minors when the tape was made and he still has it 10 years later, is he in possession of child porn and a criminal?

[Dreamer Tatum]

47. I've always wondered that. She'd better thank her lucky stars she was 17. nt

[WonderGrunion]

50. If she were a minor than she violated kiddie porn laws

and also violated her contract with the Miss USA pageant. She should lose her $1 million lawsuit and go to jail and register as a sex offender.

[Dreamer Tatum]

57. Kids who sed naked pics to other kids should go to jail, or just republican ones?

I think that's a little harsh.

[WonderGrunion]

64. It is harsh. It's a law that needs to be changed.

But it is still a law. I'm all for putting Repuke hypocrites on the sex offender list, though.

[Dreamer Tatum]

69. That's really a law? Wow. Did not know that. nt

[WonderGrunion]

82. Yeah, google sexting and child pornography.

An amazing number of young girls are being busted for producing kiddie porn by sending naked texts and videos over their phones.

[Dreamer Tatum]

92. Draconian. nt

[WonderGrunion]

104. Agreed. It's an abuse of prosecution to pad the resumes of DAs

Looking for easy convictions against scared teenagers.

[Nikki Stone1]

35. Censorship applies to public speech, not private.

And California has a right to privacy built in to our constitution.

[rd_kent]

42. OK. I think the guy is a douchbag for releasing it.

But that just goes to show you that trust is a commodity that is taken for granted.

What I want to know that if she made that tape as a minor and he still has it now, is he in possession of child pron?

[Nikki Stone1]

48. That's an excellent question, rd.

And I don't know the answer.

[NoQuarter]

46. Making the tape is not the reason for the epithet slinging.

It's the holier-than-thou, superiority dance hypocrisy that hand jive ladyfingers is contaminating the discourse with that has brought (more of) this on.

[Nikki Stone1]

So you wouldn't call me lots of crude names if Jake sold my tape to Fox News?

Provided I was your typical liberal college professor.

[Egnever]

16. If you signed a contract saying that tape did not exist, You are.

[Nikki Stone1]

36. A university wouldn't make me sign something like that, I don't think

So assume that there is no contract.

[Egnever]

103. Then there is no fault

Just inconvenience. People are going to judge you no matter what you do.

[Nikki Stone1]

109. That's true enough.

Tell Jake that this is why no one is sending him a sex tape.

[Jackpine Radical]

17. Now, let's instead imagine

that you're a big-time moralist, trying to run other peoples' sex lives, and AJ does what he does.

In both scenarios, I think AJ is wrong, but somehow I feel more sorry for you in the former scenario, and see it as the more deplorable act. But hey, that's just me.

(And I always secretly suspected that Allentown Jake guy was bad news.) :silly:

[Nikki Stone1]

40. Oh, that evil Allentown Jake....

Assume that I am your typical liberal college professor.

[redqueen]

19. YOU are.

You have a vagina, right?

Well there you go!

[Nikki Stone1]

59. Damn! Ain't that the truth!

He says he would send it to Fox News. :D

[Autumn]

21. I would say Jakes landlord

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: After all you and Allentown Jake are consenting adults.

[question everything]

22. You, for not thinking straight

And this holds for couples. Seems that J.Lo is having a similar problem with her former ex husband.

All digital media: tapes, Internet, facebook, twitter, DU posts emails, voice mails - are there forever. So before you post anything online, or leave a voice mail or send an email - with or without attachment - think of how you'd feel if 10 years down the line you have a different feelings or interactions with the recipients of your missives and how you'd feel.

[malaise]

73. Ding ding

That's the simple truth

[Nikki Stone1]

172. Even among progressives?

Wouldn't you have my back?

[malaise]

194. Nah

:D

[Nikki Stone1]

122. So, who in love always thinks straight?

And should that be a permanent punishment, or should we all just get over ourselves?

[question everything]

150. Don't think of it as punishment

Well, if it is a tape the skin may be wrinkly by now and some sagging here and there but if you loved what you did then, take pride and ownership of it.

I think that this would be the best strategy for this to "sink."

And if you've since entered a convent, just express your regrets and that you are trusting god to forgive you.

:shrug:

There have been several instances of rabid RWers who have had abortions and then regretted it. I think that "Roe" herself had. So you can turn "youthful indiscretion" into a badge of character.

Some will always praise you, others will call you a "flip flop." But if you are secure in your past actions, you'd come ahead.

But, I agree with your original premise that we, liberals, are often hypocrite the way we gang on the RWers while tolerate our own. Not just sex but other areas. (Sex is different if the politician has run on a "family value" slogan).

We have been "in your face" about Bush the way they are now about Obama. And, as our candidates often fail to realize: kitchen table issues are always the most important to the voters that will get them rally.

[Nikki Stone1]

151. I appreciate this post.

And thanks.
:)

[Autumn]

23. delete/ computer hiccup

[WonderGrunion]

27. She was suing for $1 million for wrongful termination due to religous discrimination

Her production of a sex tape, even one for private viewing by a boyfriend, was a violation of the contract she signed to become a Miss California contestant. It was introduced as rebuttal evidence when she said she had never done anything to violate her contract. It wasn't blackmail.

[Dreamer Tatum]

30. +1

[WonderGrunion]

34. Oh, and I need to PM AllentownJake...

for "personal" reasons, not what you're thinking. Perv. :hide:

[Nikki Stone1]

98. Yeah, personal reasons.

:evilgrin:

[redqueen]

55. Yeah...

I can't say I agree that it was blackmail.

My main beef with this situation is the people who seemed to be so eagerly awaiting a chance to use sexist slurs against a 'slutty whore'.

[WonderGrunion]

75. Your beef is a good one. There is no excuse for misogyny.

I'm eager to bash her, but just for being a moralizing hypocrite.

[Nikki Stone1]

89. That I can live with.

Thank you.

[tammywammy]

110. I agree with that as well

I don't think she's a "slutty whore" anymore than I'm a slutty whore. :)

I think she was naive if she didn't think a tape like this would come out. If she had won Miss USA the tape was destined to come out. The fact that she engaged in a high profile lawsuit against Miss California it was destined to come out. But again, she probably assumed that he didn't keep it.

[Nikki Stone1]

168. Exactly.

It's like they get to release all this woman bashing at once.

[Nikki Stone1]

65. Yes, but what about me?

It's all about me!

(Seriously, should every woman who makes a tape or photo for a b-friend be at risk for losing her job?)

[WonderGrunion]

70. In your scenario, you are the wronged one.

This tape didn't cause her to lose her job, it was rebuttal evidence in a wrongful termination suit. She had already violated contract by not showing up to Miss California events and taking private speaking bookings. This was just the nail in the coffin.

[Nikki Stone1]

107. Would you come and support me if this were the case?

And assuming that Allentown Jake had already been a nasty critter and sold the thing to Fox Noise, which was now airing a split screen with my sex tape (blacked out for the explicit parts) on one side and David Horowitz trashing "liberal" college professors on the other.

[WonderGrunion]

124. I'm a partisan Democrat first and a liberal second.

If Faux News was bashing you, I'd have your back. And I would decry them for censorship of the tape. :evilgrin:

[Nikki Stone1]

127. You're all heart.

:rofl:

[WonderGrunion]

157. I don't believe my heart is the organ promoting this defense.

I could be mistaken... but i don't think so.

[Nikki Stone1]

162. Well, it's doing a real stand-up job.

:rofl:

[WonderGrunion]

184. Hey, my eyes are up here!

:blush:

[Nikki Stone1]

187. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[redqueen]

166. Yes...

it's your brain! :)

[WonderGrunion]

170. You just keep telling yourself that...

:rofl:

[redqueen]

171. Hehehehehe...

O8)

[tammywammy]

97. +1 n/t

[AllentownJake]

41. Can we get this on the front page

:rofl:

[rucky]

49. Not without video.

[Nikki Stone1]

115. Anything to get your name and a sex tape in the same sentence.

LOL!!!!

:rofl:

[SidDithers]

44. Are you suing your college for wrongful dismissal?...

Did you lie during your job interview, when asked if you'd ever posed naked for pictures or video?

Unrecc'd.

Sid

[Nikki Stone1]

174. I might be. But there might not be anything in the contract about private sexual activity.

So then what?

[SidDithers]

180. So then your analogy to Prejean's situation falls apart...nt

Sid

[Nikki Stone1]

182. But the discussion about the hypocrisy of progressives does not.

Progressives should be the last people to support the use of a private sex tape, made during the course of a relationship, to publicly bring down a female. That's what bothers me. You can be all for the firing of Prejean on technicalities, but don't be so happy about a private sex tape being used to do it. What happens when your sister or daughter gives a photo or a tape to a man she loves and later that is used to destroy her career? We, as progressives, should be for sexual privacy and against it being used to destroy people. Let the fundies believe in that kind of crap.

[SidDithers]

190. The tape wasn't used to "publicly bring down a female"...

it was used as evidence in a legal proceeding.

Perhaps Ms. Prejean, knowing that there existed that particularly embarassing piece of evidence, which clearly showed that she breached her contract with her employer, shouldn't have been trying to extort $1 million from them. The defendant is under no obligation to "play nice" in their efforts to win in court.

Sid

[dddem]

202. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who is old enough to have sex

should be old enough to know NOT to make a sex tape or send nude pictures to a current lover unless they know they will get them back once they become an ex-lover. Now videotaping someone without their knowledge or consent is a whole different case, and should be severly dealt with. But that's not what we're talking about.
'Having your back' because you're a progressive doesn't mean you should stop taking responsibility for your actions.
Do I think Bill Clinton should have kept his vow of fidelity? Absolutely. Do I think he should have been treated the way he was by his colleagues, the media and much of the country? Absolutely not.
Did I think he was a great president? You bet, and it didn't change after monicagate. But I still think he was stupid and should have known better.
Whether we support the use of a private sex tape is irrelevant. What is important is that we all know (right or wrong) that they WILL be used, and as intelligent people, we should be vigilant about our own behavior and our responsibilities, especially when we choose to live a public life. Glass houses and all.
But that doesn't mean I won't support you when they try to attack you. Doing one stupid thing doesn't take away from all the smart things you do, you know?
Peace.

[laststeamtrain]

52. Has it really come to this?

DU becomes largely a place where people get together to watch TV & talk about it. ZZZZZZZZ.

Now it's this. Bizarro 'what ifs' about sex tapes.

How much more pop culture stoooopid can DU get?

[AllentownJake]

60. Beats constant Kucinuch bashing threads

:rofl:

[Nikki Stone1]

85. Yeah it does, doesn't it.

:rofl:

[WonderGrunion]

100. Is "Kucinich bashing" now a euphamism for masturbation?

He is nicknamed "the Kooch" after all.

[Nikki Stone1]

121. Oh no...

"Bashing the Kooch" becomes a new term....

[redqueen]

148. lol

I'll never forget going to one of his speeches and hearing people chanting "KOOCH! KOOCH! KOOCH! KOOCH!"

(Yes, I have a juvenile sense of humor.)

[Nikki Stone1]

152. Well, anyone would forgive you under those circumstances.

:rofl:

[WonderGrunion]

159. It's better than "Hiking the Appalachian Trail"

My non-political friends have no idea what I'm talking about when I say that. They would at least get "Bashing the Kooch"

[Nikki Stone1]

163. Ouch! My stomach hurts!

I'm laughing too hard.

The abs are getting a workout.

:rofl:

[WonderGrunion]

178. Any other muscles you want me to help work out?

Nevermind the camera in the corner... :yoiks:

[TheWraith]

53. I'm not sure your analogy holds up.

After all, in your scenario you haven't done anything that would be considered hypocritical--as a professor you're advocating non-censorship, not public morality. Also, "professor" and "beauty queen" aren't equally respected social positions.

[cali]

56. completely and totally misguided comparison. Beyond lame.

[Nikki Stone1]

62. Really? Why is it lame and misguided? I could be fired for a personal sex tape

for a guy I had a relationship with. Can you imagine the parents of those 19-20-somethings?

[cali]

72. really? says who? You? and just what is your legal background and expertise?

You wholly made up a situation and now you're fucking flogging it like it's some reality.

[Nikki Stone1]

94. Sure I can be fired. Especially if I'm not tenured. The university can succumb to pressure

I am in charge of teaching young people.

Why are you so angry at my thread? Has it been awhile? ;)

[myrna minx]

58. Thread titles I never thought I'd see posted here for $1000.00, Alex.

:D

[Nikki Stone1]

126. Hey, I was a fan of Jocelyn Elders.

Put it out there! :)

[Vickers]

61. You are taking a progressive stance 10 years down the road, she is taking

a hypocritical/anti-gay stance.

Most people gleeful over this masturbation tape are laughing because she was all values and shit, and it turns out she may not be as squeaky clean as her Repuke handlers thought she was.

Me? I liked the post the other day where someone said (paraphrased) "I hope that plenty of Repukes see this and realize that masturbation is a healthy and normal thing for people to do."

Still need to see your tape, though.

:spank

[Nikki Stone1]

76. Let's assume that the tape is pretty decent.

Would you pressure the university to fire me?

[RetroLounge]

71. I'd say you laked good judgement

but a "whore" a "c--t," a prostitute, a bitch?

You cannot deterine that from a tape.

I'd have to ask Jake :D

RL

[cali]

74. unreccomended for utter absurdity.

[AllentownJake]

90. For Real

As hard as I've tried over the years, I've been unable to get one sex tape.

[RetroLounge]

95. You need to make the first move

and send yours out first.

:D

RL

[AllentownJake]

102. No one wants to see that

[Nikki Stone1]

133. Now how do you know?

There are a lot of women who might appreciate the entertainment.

[redqueen]

118. Hahahahahah

:thumbsup:

:7

[Nikki Stone1]

101. Seems liike Cali's been unsuccessful too.

;)

[Rabrrrrrr]

78. You are.

[RetroLounge]

79. I also rec'd this

Because the OP's title NEEDS to be on the front page...

:rofl:

RL

[Nikki Stone1]

86. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[ecstatic]

84. I finally understand the purpose of Hide Thread

[Nikki Stone1]

112. Glad to have been of service.

:)

[Starry Messenger]

87. This thread delivers!

:D

[La Lioness Priyanka]

88. bigotry? but if you had just proven yourself a bigot, a month or two ago

you would have no sympathy from others

[Nikki Stone1]

120. So how am I a bigot again?

Hello?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

139. honestly, you should stop taking things so personally in a hypothetical situation

i answered your question with bigotry.(Who is to blame for that?)

I also stated that had you proven yourself a bigot a month ago ala prejean, no one woudl have sympathy for you. had you not, and just had the bad luck of having a bad ex and a sexist society, a lot of people would have sympathy for you

[Nikki Stone1]

140. So I am hypothetical bigot?

:wtf:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

146. ugh. nt

[Tommy_Carcetti]

105. Recommended, simply because I'd love to see the title of this thread on the Greatest Page.

Hey, I can dream, can't I?

[RetroLounge]

106. GMTA

:hi:

RL

[Tommy_Carcetti]

125. Okay, who is un-recing?

And why do they hate America and/or masterbation tapes?

[Nikki Stone1]

128. It's the anti-masturbation league.

:evilgrin:

[cherokeeprogressive]

116. Is this tape for sale somewhere? AllentownJake! How much? Ebay?

With a good porn name like Nikki Stone, it's GOTTA be good...

J/K ;)

[Lex]

129. If you have to send Allentown Jake a masturbation tape while you're away on business

just to keep him "busy" then I'd say that's your problem right there.

[AllentownJake]

134. I've tried using that logic in my sale before

it has never worked.

[Nikki Stone1]

135. Oh, come on.

I'm all for a man thinking of me fondly when I'm away. :)

[Kansas Wyatt]

137. Jake, because there was a 'trust' between you two.

When you broke up, he should have destroyed the tape or given it back to you... First broken trust.

The second broken trust is when he sold it, without your knowledge or ability to have any say in it.

Sorry, that's just my opinion.

By the way, how hot are you in this tape?

[Nikki Stone1]

141. Assume extremely hot.

And your answer is exactly how I think. Jake would be a real scum if he did this.

Poor Jake....

:rofl:

[Kansas Wyatt]

169. Since Jake is now scum and I'm upstanding...

Can I see the tape?

I promise not to make any copies.

[snot]

144. Everyone who called you "whore" a "c--t," a prostitute, a bitch.

[Nikki Stone1]

153. Thank you.

That's exactly right. :)

[rug]

145. Well shit. Now I'm not sure what to do with this tape of AllentrownJake masturbating.

[Nikki Stone1]

154. I hear America's Funniest Home Videos is looking for material.

:evilgrin:

(Poor Jake...)

:rofl:

[mullard12ax7]

147. Gross, incestuous infighting makes you all look like creeps

Spewing what little data you've collected on some internet persona's in a direct and personal manner is just so perverted.

[smoogatz]

149. Weak analogy.

Let's say you're a completely brainless bimbo who makes a living parading your Brazilian wax and breast implants around in a bikini. Let's say someone makes the mistake of asking you an actual serious question in the "interview" portion of one of these extravaganzas. Let's say the answer that pops out of your mouth is that your sexual identity is morally superior to other sexual identities. Let's say the religious right makes you their latest poster-child, and you launch a new mini-career based on bigoted sanctimony about "opposite marriage" and all the usual Xtian crap around sex, including but not limited to pre-marital chastity, etc. THEN let's say that a tape of you masturbating with a huge dildo (illegal in Alabama!) emerges, which, along with the topless photos that have also cropped up and been inadequately explained by you, kind of delivers the coup de grace to your newly minted image of heavily made-up fundie purity and wholesomeness. People call you impolite names, but the one that really stings is "hypocrite," because it's true.

[Nikki Stone1]

155. But what about the situation in my OP?

That was what I was really concerned about.

[smoogatz]

176. Why?

[Nikki Stone1]

185. Because.

:)

[cbdo2007]

158. Moral of the story here is - never send nude pictures/video to anyone. Relationships are fickle and

your parts are likely to be displayed all over the internet.

I know, everything thinks their relationship will last forever. Hell, I'm married and think my wife and I are perfect for each other, but even that will one day probably end in divorce. Very very few relationships stay together forever and it's not worth it to send your naughty bits out to anyone. If you do, then accept the consequences and the lesson learned.

[Nikki Stone1]

164. Sigh.

I kinda think it spices up a relationship, especially a marriage. But I get your point.

:(

[flvegan]

160. Hardbodied masturbation climbing the Greatest Page!

[TZ]

175. Is it minty fresh though?

:rofl:

[flvegan]

179. Only when

I'm in the mood for that flavor of condom. OR something.

[slackmaster]

165. That would be mutual fault, Nikki

Your fault for making the tape and for trusting Allentown Jake.

Allentown Jake's fault for going back on his word.

There are no heroes in this scenario.

[Nikki Stone1]

167. Are you against tapes in general or just their consequences?

Just wondering.

[slackmaster]

181. No, the tape and the consequence are none of my business

Nor are they my problem.

[Nikki Stone1]

183. Would you just ignore it then if I were accused of having a tape?

Good progressives would say it was none of their business and focus on the issue at hand, which in the OP, would be censorship.

[slackmaster]

191. Yes, I would ignore it. It's a personal issue, a pecadillo from your past that you can't erase.

It does not reflect on your present standing as a professor or what you are teaching.

Good progressives would say it was none of their business and focus on the issue at hand, which in the OP, would be censorship.

IMO a good Christian would take almost exactly the same position. We have all sinned. We can be forgiven. I have things that come up on Web searches that I posted and now wish I had not posted. What really matters are your character and integrity NOW.

[Nikki Stone1]

197. Good post.

That's all I was looking for.

[Dr. Strange]

189. So this now falls under "Entertainment?"

I have GOT to see this tape!

[WonderGrunion]

195. I've found this thread very entertaining.

:woohoo:

[Nikki Stone1]

198. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[truebrit71]

192. It depends on whether you got your boobies enlarged for a beauty pageant...

...and then proposed that a large portion of the general population should be denied their basic civil rights...

[TK421]

193. This thread has "Legend" written all over it

[Nikki Stone1]

196. Legend?

Please explain. :)

[TK421]

203. Talking about popularity there...sorry

this is some great stuff! :D

[Nikki Stone1]

205. It was so good they moved me from GD to Entertainment

Even though I was trying to make a political point. :)

[TK421]

209. Okay....but honestly you would be at fault ( in regard to the OP )

I would feel bad for you that your trust in that person was violated, especially when given such a tape with such sensitive material...people just are not to be trusted...more so these days

It would be slimy if someone did that, though

[question everything]

210. Should have stayed at GD

Isn't it interesting that LBN has several threads of exactly the same story and they stay there, while this one the moderators noticed?

[Ratty]

200. Say your name was Nicholas Stone

And you were a guy whose masturbation tape ended up with the media. Still misogyny? You seriously think Nicholas would be treated any different?

[Iggo]

206. You can't let anyone take pictures of you naked...

...unless you're okay with the whole world seeing the pictures.

Don't pose for pictures you don't want anyone to see. And I mean anyone.

That's the only rule for posing naked.

[ZombieHorde]

207. The people calling you names are to blame for the name calling.

Almost everyone in the U.S. masturbates, almost everyone in the U.S. films something or photographs something, I don't care if someone combines the two activities.

[Vinnie From Indy]

208. I smell a web site !!!!!

Naughty girl! :)

My only comment on Prejean is that she is a victim of her own screwed up morality. In short, it is her hypocrisy that deserves criticism, scorn and ridicule.