Michelle Duggar gives birth to baby No. 19

[The Straight Story]

Michelle Duggar gives birth to baby No. 19

For the Duggar family, it's now 19 kids and counting. Michelle Duggar delivered a baby girl through an emergency C-section on Thursday evening, People.com reports. Josie Brooklyn weighed one pound, six ounces at the time of birth. Michelle, who was due in March, was airlifted to an Arkansas hospital earlier this week with gallbladder issues.

Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar star on the TLC reality show "18 Kids and Counting." The couple welcomed their first grandchild, a daughter born to the oldest Duggar kid, in October.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-091211-duggar-baby-19,0,6781335.story

[joeybee12]

1. Well, I'm glad the baby's healthy...

...but this is just wrong.

[niceypoo]

12. From a stand point of modern reality, yes, from a physical standpoint, no

My grandmother had 13 brothers. Her Mother lived to 91. Women are built to spit out babies.

This was very common before birth control.

[joeybee12]

29. Probably it's healthier in this day and age than it was back then for

women to have so many kids...but 19 today is just selfish...and all these kids are really, really pasty.

[niceypoo]

51. Indeedy

Hope they are drinking lots of vitamin D fortified milk.

[gmoney]

37. 1 pound 6 ounce birthweight = healthy?

I hope that the baby does well, but I'm sure it will face a lot of challenges that preemies are prone to.

A friend of mine had her baby very very early, and he's had lots of health problems... very heartbreaking.

[tosh]

2. Disgusting. nt.

[AngryAmish]

5. Her body, her choice.

[brendan120678]

10. Very true. (nt)

[Peacetrain]

26. good point!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

28. I agree. Choice doesn't only go one way.

[superduperfarleft]

36. Sure it's her choice.

A disgusting choice, but her choice nonetheless.

[hlthe2b]

38. Was it the older siblings' choice to have their childhood stripped from them....

as they become the equivalent of maids and surrogate moms for their endless brood? Hmmm?

[superduperfarleft]

40. +1. n/t

[BoneDaddy]

46. oh god

projection perhaps.

[hlthe2b]

56. I don't believe in this level of misogyny (or personal selfishness)...

From your screen name, I suspect that gender-wise, that does not concern YOU.

And, no, although it is none of your damned business, I will answer your rude accusation re: projection: I had responsible parents who had no more children than they could afford to fully support--both financially and emotionally. They did not feel the need to turn older daughters into housekeepers and surrogate Mommies to satisfy their own selfish desires for a record-breaking brood.

[get the red out]

65. [phone]

[hamsterjill]

81. +2

And they've already had some of the older girls (none yet married) attending birthing classes. So, yeah, right! Tell me that the Duggar girls have a choice!

[Scout]

42. yes, and our choice to express our opinions about her choices

i think the adult Duggars are a greedy, selfish lot.

[tosh]

71. Exactly. nt.

[bamacrat]

45. I just hope it is her choice.

The uber religious like the Duggars do not believe in birth control and that the wife should have sex with the husband anytime he wants it. Plus Im sure they dont use protection or the pull out method since that would be spilled seed. Before the she got pregnant with 19 she was trimming down she looked happy and then got pregnant and it looked as though she wasnt extatic about it. My wife really likes this show so therefore I watch it and we both agreed that Michelle didnt look thrilled about having a 19th child. My bet they will have atleast 5 more she still has about 10 years till menopause.

[Raine]

76. I watch it too. I also think that the other children

didn't seem that happy when the announcement about yet another one was made, their "joy" was very understated.

[calico1]

48. The problem is it isn't entirley her choice..

The older kids have the job of caring for the younger ones. It is way too many kids for her to care for by herself so the older kids..not by their choice..have the job of caring for the younger ones.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

78. Correction, I bet it's the older GIRLS who take care of the babies

(I don't have cable, so I am spared the adventures of the Duggars.)

[LWolf]

50. Limits.

Where do personal freedom and rights end? At the place they negatively impacts others.

[sinkingfeeling]

52. Not exactly in her belief system. She must submit to the will of her husband and that includes

the issue of birth control.

[rurallib]

3. Time to start working on #20!

Why are they doing this?

[SoCalDem]

7. big house...money.. glory from gawdalmighty.. they're nuts?..n/t

[SoCalDem]

4. Well, at least that poor womb-an can now get treatment for her gallstones

and here's hoping that tiny little baby makes it too..

the "show" people are probably high 5-ing each other because now they have some real drama... a micro-baby with lots of issues for them to highlight:puke:

[tammywammy]

6. I pray mom and baby stay in good health n/t

[cali]

8. Whether they do or not, matters not at all to me.

[tammywammy]

14. That I understand

But anytime a mom and new baby are mentioned in the news, I always hope they're both healthy and doing okay, regardless of who the mother is.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Yikes, one pound/six ounces. Too early.

Quit while you're way ahead, Duggars.

[hlthe2b]

63. Wouldn't you like to know how they pay for their healthcare?

hmmm...

[liberal N proud]

11. How do people like that find time to copulate?

Think life is busy?, just add children.

[SteelPenguin]

27. Yeah No Kidding

I don't understand how they do it. I mean now they just have all the older kids doing most of the work, cooking and cleaning, and taking care of each other.

I mean I have 3 kids and my wife is a stay at home mom, and it's freaking tiring. I can't imagine having a fourth, much less a fourteenth.

Also I barely feel like I have time to spend with my 3 kids and give them each any kind of individual attention. Those kids must barely see their parents in a non-group setting. You'd have children you don't really know all that well.

That makes me sad. I guess they have different priorities. To me one of my main priorities is spending one on one time each day with all 3 of my kids, both playing with them, talking about their day and what they did, etc, and then telling each one individually at bedtime that I love them. No way I could do that with 16 more kids.

Ah well.

[calico1]

55. I'm surprised her uterus hasn't fallen out. n/t

[Tailormyst]

13. 1 pound 6 ounces. Poor little thing.

Its a scary thing, having a preemie that small. I don't particularly care for their lifestyle, but I hope the baby and the mother are okay and stay okay. Choice, it goes both ways.

[tammywammy]

17. Yes, when I was in high school

The woman my father was dating had a daughter that was pregnant. She gave birth to a 1 lb 8 oz baby early, and the little thing didn't last a day. It was very sad.

[LynneSin]

20. I'm hoping that's a sign that perhaps 19 is enough

I appreciate that the Duggars have done this all naturally but at what point to you keep going and risk doing something that will have an adverse affect on a future child and/or the mother.

[Tailormyst]

34. I think this experience might do it. She must be tired.

Sadly I think unless her husband is scared into realizing that she could die and leave his to care for all those kids alone, it won't stop. I believe in their church he is the one in the marriage making those decisions for her.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

79. Their "church" is the Duggars and one other family, as I recall

Free-lance fundies. They don't need no stinkin' traditions or reason.

[Gormy Cuss]

31. I was with you until the swipe about choice.

I hope the baby is healthy and that her mother recovers too because there are a lot of children depending on her. I also believe that the choice to have this many children and to parade them on television is morally reprehensible, but like most pro-choice people I separate my own moral agenda from what I believe the state should allow or disallow.

[Tailormyst]

41. It was no swipe at anyone.

I was saying that even though I don't agree with the choices she makes, as a pro-choice woman, I believe it is hers and hers alone to make. Perhaps I worded it wrong.

[Brickbat]

15. Oof, that's an early birth. Hope the little one hangs in there.

[hatrack]

16. Next insemination begins in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . .

:evilgrin:

[niceypoo]

19. After ten or so babies...

...it must be like sticking your dick in a glass of lukewarm water.

After 15? Shudder!!

[get the red out]

39. He probably prays for her to die in birth

So he can procure a 16 year old Fundie virgin and start all over.

[monmouth]

18. They're all good looking and healthy looking children. I wish them all well...n/t

[niceypoo]

22. Im sure they are being taught that birth control is evil

And they should just abstain from sex, like Mommy and Daddy.

[kestrel91316]

67. Those little boys all look like clones.

[walldude]

21. Who are these people? Are they building an army?

This is kind of creepy. What woman wants to spend 20 years pregnant?

[semillama]

47. As a matter of fact , yes they are building an army

Have you heard of the "Quiverfull" movement? Google it and try not to fall out of your chair as you recoil in horror.

[Fla Dem]

58. Do the math...20 kids...even if they only have 5 kids each themselves

that's 100, they have 5 each, that's 500, they have 5 each that's 2500.

Dugger's produce...........1st generation = 20
kids produce...............2nd generation = 100
grand kids produce.........3rd generation = 500
great grand kids produce...4th generation = 2500

A small army.

[tosh]

72. Talk about a carbon foorprint.

:eyes:

[sinkingfeeling]

23. I think the next one will end up killing Michelle.

[get the red out]

32. That's part of the object isn't it?

Then Fundie Dad gets to start over with a newer model of slave. Something like driving the old car until the wheels fall off then getting a brand new one. It's incredibly Christian, she goes to heaven for having all those kids and he gets what a man deserves, a new woman-slave-creature-pet-thing. It's their God's plan I am sure.

[ima_sinnic]

24. when is that resource hog going into menopause? will they get a "breeder" then? (nt)

[brendan120678]

25. That's probably an old picture by the way...

That baby in her arms certainly isn't a one pound, six ounce preemie.

[TwilightGardener]

43. No--the current baby would be a tiny scrawny thing in NICU--

but that reality is being glossed over, methinks.

[Demoiselle]

61. Check the photo at the link. It says she's "expecting her 18th child."

That means the babe in arms is number 17. I find this story very sad. What bothers me the most is that it's all on TV.

[get the red out]

30. Disgusting people

I wish they didn't have their own TV show.

I hope I live long enough to read some tell all books out of some of these kids. I am sure that will be the interesting part.

May at least some of these children receive the years of therapy they will surely need.

[Regret My New Name]

33. Why?

[get the red out]

35. God said

And females are nothing except breeders.

Coming soon to all homes if we elect more Rethuglicans.

[brendan120678]

66. Why did she give birth?

Probably because she was pregnant.
That's what usually precedes the giving birth part of the procreation process.

[BoneDaddy]

44. Dice clay comes to mind

"There was an old woman who lived in a shoe, she had so many kids...
her uterus dropped out"

HEY BADA BING

[billyoc]

49. ...

[Joe_michigan]

53. Good grief

Whatever happened to ZPG (Zero Population Growth)?

[johnnie]

54. Is she on a sperm I.V. drip?

Sheezzz

I'm figuring by now that all she has to do is sneeze and the babies shoot right out.

[liberal N proud]

57. Entertainment?

This was moved to the entertainment forum

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


Great job mods

[enid602]

59. wonder

Can´t help but wonder how many of them might become climate change refugees.

[kestrel91316]

60. I was wondering if she just stood up and it fell out. Oh, and I am wondering

why she cut her long hair. That's ungodly.

[enid602]

77. vend

She has a slot on her side for quarters.

[Duke Newcombe]

62. And the Duggar Hate Brigade comes out in full force...

Keeping it classy and progressive, gang...wonderful. :eyes:

[tammywammy]

64. Choice...but only when we agree with it.

It's so predictable on DU sometimes.

[kestrel91316]

68. I hate incredibly self-centered, irresponsible people of all stripes.

The Duggars are just the handiest example of it at the moment. Besides, I have zero tolerance for the mindset that women are just uteruses with legs.

[get the red out]

73. Thank you, it's not about "choice"

Their children are separated from the real world and will be so brain washed any choices in life will be nearly impossible, especially for the daughters.

If they have the choice to show off this misogynist life as something special, and if a television station can choose to air that, then I can certainly choose in this free country to say these people are misogynists and I believe that their children will suffer from this hideous upbringing.

Fundamentalists are worthless pieces of shit and add absolutely nothing positive at all to our society. If that Duggar monster wants to put his massive family on the air then I have every right to criticize them. He is a fucking patriarchal piece of dog shit. People should not whine about someone who is on a reality tv show being called out because they obviously want to be talked about in the first place.

[get the red out]

74. So we aren't allowed to critize a "reality tv family"

These people put themselves out there for the world to watch but it is just so terrible to have an opinion about them?

I do not get that at all. If someone puts their crap out for the world to see then I cannot fathom why it is so wrong to form and express an opinion about them. Last time I checked, we still had freedom of speech in this country whether about these people or anything else.

[Onceuponalife]

80. What's to like?

You need to read up on the quiverful movement.

[Bethany Rockafella]

69. I don't know what to say, except....

Welcome new baby!

[marshall]

70. Amazingly they have really been beating the odds re: childbirth and children

None of their children have signigicant health issues, all of Michelle's births seem to have gone okay. This is the worst complication so far, and at least the child has made it so far. Her only miscarriage that they have spoken about was between the birth of their first child and their twin second and third children.

I wish mother and child well, and celebrate the freedom of choice we have in this counrty.

[frylock]

75. yuck

[mackerel]

82. I had a premmie (31 weeks and 1.6 # ) and their child will be in

the hospital for at least a month. Even with insurance coverage it was expensive. I guess they must have insurance through the show.

[RamboLiberal]

83. I can't help wondering if they have health insurance that will cover

This baby will probably easily be a million dollars in hospital bills plus mom's preclamsia & hospitalization. Will TLC be covering the cost? They have the right to have as many kids as they want - but IMHO they are really playing the odds of losing Mom and/or the baby. Maybe God is telling them with this near call enough already.

They have basic insurance, not catastrophic coverage. They were on Larry King and Jim Bob stated that they paid only $475 a month for the entire family and that the insurance does not cover childbirth.


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How about health insurance? How does a family of 20 afford health insurance? Check out this transcript from the April 13, 2009 Larry King Interview. (Behar stepped in for King who was out sick)

BEHAR: Of course. According to the latest issue of “People Magazine,” you guys only pay — the Duggar family, the 18 kids, you only pay 417 dollars a month for health insurance. How do I get on that plan? Because that’s a lot of people on that health insurance for 475. That’s pretty good.

JB. DUGGAR: Well, it is, but actually, we have, like, a 2,500 deductible, and then also it doesn’t cover maternity. There’s several different things it doesn’t cover.

J. DUGGAR: And I’m not on the plan anymore, so yes.

BEHAR: Does it include dental? You need dental also, right? All those kids.

JB. DUGGAR: Dental, it covers about half of the dental costs.

BEHAR: I’m sure there are braces and everything else, right? Do you think it will be –

JB. DUGGAR: That’s been out of pocket.

http://www.debateandrelate.com/showthread.php?p=192395

[mackerel]

84. My bill was $225,000 and that was 12 years ago. We had

to cover 10% and we're still paying it off.