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bookworm65t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:51 PM
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Reality Show Mom has 19th Child
Source: Associated Press/ New York Times

An Arkansas couple featured on the reality TV show ''18 Kids and Counting'' now has 19.

Cable network TLC says 43-year-old Michelle Duggar gave birth to a 1-pound, 6-ounce daughter Thursday night during an emergency cesarean section. She had been due March 18.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/12/11/arts/AP-US-Duggar-19-Kids.html



Wonder why so early. Three months early.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:53 PM
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1. She went to emergency for gall bladder problems
probably had something to do with it.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:54 PM
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2. Someone help me out here...I don't watch this show regularly
I know that the husband is self employed. I am wondering if they have health insurance that will cover what will be astronomical hospital costs to bring this baby along.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:51 PM
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19. I don't know for sure, but I suspect that the paycheck they receive
from TLC for appearing on the show is substantial and allows them to purchase health care coverage for the entire bunch. They also have income from the commercial properties the husband owns. They aren't hurting.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 12:24 AM
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44. how much could it cost to pull open a zipper? nt
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 12:25 AM by MisterP
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:39 AM
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45. I would be interested in know how much of their litter is "emancipated" and collecting welfare
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:55 PM
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That's about 20 more than they should have.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:55 PM
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3. That's over 3 months early!
I wish them the best.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:53 PM
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42. yes, and the first one with problems
they've been very lucky up to this point.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:56 PM
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4. I wonder if she realizes that it's time to stop now....or if hubby will
agree to keep his mind above his belt buckle.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:05 PM
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27. Who JimBob? Never. n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:00 PM
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5. Couple of people beat you to this one.
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 04:03 PM by MineralMan
Who cares? Doesn't qualify as Breaking News, anyhow. Search "Duggar." There's a nice long thread from hours ago you can post on if it interests you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:04 PM
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:37 PM
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12. How many children do you deem it acceptable for a woman to have
before you start posting comments on internet message boards suggesting that she be forcibly sterilized?
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:56 PM
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21. How many little girls should be raised to have no idea they have rights?
How many young girls should be raised isolated from society with no idea that they have rights beyond being a brood mare? How many young boys should be brought up to only see females as slaves and birthing machines? How many people in our so called "free" society should be permitted to be completely isolated and brainwashed from birth? How long should a family profit from breeding via TV? Who pays their health care when we have so many far more responsible people doing without in this country? Why should someone make a living on TV for being irresponsible parents who hand their babies off to another child to raise and immediately have another one?

Why and how do we see extremist fundamentalists and harmless to our society when they despise our society so much that they separate their children from it and want to change our laws to suite them?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:51 PM
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31. It is irresponsible to add 19 fucking kids to an overpopulated planet that is being destroyed.
Overpopulation is the root problem. Although the original poster was being facetious about spaying her, they are being extraordinarily irresponsible.

She needs to be de-programmed from the cult thinking she is serving her god by having children.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:09 PM
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35. Overpopulating the planet with consumers
There is a big difference between the level of consumption here in the Western world and that in say India or Bangladesh.

I do agree that over population is a problem - but the lifestyle is also a big factor as well.

Why would anyone in their right mind choose to do this - well I guess that answers my question.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:45 PM
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38. No, overpopulation really trumps overconsumption.
The notion that there is enough food, so overpopulation is less important, is nonsense. Every additional person destroying the Earth's ecosystems needs AND EXPECTS more than just food.

They want transportation, clean water, energy, land, shelter, commerce, communications, and all of this means more byproducts, solid waste, waste water, used energy resources, carbon emissions, destroyed natural resources.

Most important, there is a group of people using overconsumption to try to minimize the importance of overpopulation. This should be called out early and often.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:00 PM
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33. Sorry that you feel the need to apologize for them
But they relinquished any rights to privancy when they decided to profit from their life story by publishing it on TV. They put themselves in the public realm, anyone's opinion on them is valid. You are free not to comment on them.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:24 PM
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36. Nye
That would be, 2 :-)
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 02:44 AM
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46. I believe all religious individuals should be forcibly sterilized
Edited on Sat Dec-12-09 02:46 AM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
Religious fanatics are a cancer on this country and planet,
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:17 PM
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7. New reality show idea
Interviews with the kids who end up on the psych ward from the results of their wonderful parenting and "loving" religion. We will probably have to wait on this for a few years, but whoever replaces Opra could have a field day with the poor messed up kids.

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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:21 PM
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8. Hope the baby makes it
I'm guessing they have pretty good insurance otherwise a premmie that small would cost them a fortune to keep in the hospital.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:29 PM
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10. if they don't
TLC may foot the bill..... this kind of news is ratings gold
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:49 PM
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17. Yep
The sympathy watchers. The Duggars would have to be especially careful to remember the poor baby's name for that shoot. Of course they would already be planning for the next one, or next grandchild, or both.

Gotta keep those fundies coming so you can take over the country with numbers and get some "God fearing" morality back into society.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:24 PM
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9. She stood up and it fell out.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:36 PM
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11. How many children do you deem it acceptable for a woman to have
before you start posting disparaging comments about the size of her vagina on internet message boards?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:13 PM
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28. I haven't decided, nor is it for me to decide such things. It's a free country.
But given that, I am free to express my opinion of the situation. I don't think highly of people who have so many children that they can't possible meet their emotional needs, and I do believe that applies to the Duggars. The older girls are surrogate mothers for the younger kids.

And it sounds like Goodwife Duggar just lies around all day waiting for hubby to boink her, then lies around her entire pregnancy trying to keep the babies from falling out.

Disgusting.

Oh, and you need remedial reading. I said nothing about the size of her vagina.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:01 PM
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34. This is highly related to the problem of people buying more home than they can afford
With the Duggars it's children, with the folks involved with the housing crisis it's a bigger and bigger house. People don't know when to stop these days.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:40 PM
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29. Well I'd roll a pair of dice but we're past that, perhaps if we break open the Yatzee
we can come to a Dugger appropriate number.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:52 PM
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32. It is irresponsible to add 19 fucking kids to an overpopulated planet that is being destroyed.
She deserves to be disparaged for making a spectacle of her pitiable self.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:57 PM
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23. You're *SO* bad, kestrel!
:applause:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-12-09 09:28 AM
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47. Ah Deidre, get that would ya?
You realize that in about three kids, if the economy keeps up the way it is, Jim Bob's going to have to gather his brood around and inform them he's had no choice but to sell them all for scientific experiments.

"Couldn't you have had your balls cut off, Dad?"
'Not if we're to remain members of the fastest-growing religion in the world, my child!'
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:41 PM
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13. I cannot imagine having a baby that small or having that many at home.
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 04:44 PM by woodsprite
When I had my daughter, my doc cautioned me to not become pregnant too soon again since I had iron and calcium issues and had undergone a c-section. He said they recommend waiting at least 18mo to 2 yrs for everything to return to normal again. That's what I keep thinking about every time the topic of the Duggars come up. She's been a non-stop baby factory for years.

I hope the little baby is fine, but 3 months is awfully early. My doc also said that gallbladder issues can follow pregnancy pretty closely. I had problems after my son was born and celebrated his 3month birthday by having my gallbladder out. I'm just thankful I didn't have any bad attacks while pregnant!
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:46 PM
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16. She won't have to deal with it
She will just give it to the next daughter in line to play mommie to the new one like all the rest.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:26 PM
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39. Which is a good way to get the daughters trained and in the
mind-set for carrying on the family tradition of breeding till you can't breed anymore, very sad way of life. :-(
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:42 PM
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14. Time to change the name of the show to '19 Kids and Counting"
I wonder what's gonna happen when one of the girls gets pregnant(gasp!)? Are they gonna start the contest all over again with her?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:28 PM
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40. Seriously that's the plan, renaming
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 08:29 PM by Raine
the show to "19 Kids & Counting". :-(

edit: typo
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:42 PM
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15. Freaks. I hope RWers are fine with the burden on their taxes these freaks cause. nt
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:50 PM
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18. Glad the baby is fine. Now if the mother could get help.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:52 PM
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20. Holdup - 1lb 6-ounces - this is scary.
"Cable network TLC says 43-year-old Michelle Duggar gave birth to a 1-pound, 6-ounce daughter Thursday night during an emergency cesarean section. She'd been due March 18.

TLC says the child is in stable condition at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences in Little Rock."
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:57 PM
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22. I think regardless of how anyone feels about the parents, good vibes and
positive thoughts are in order for the baby. 1 lb 6oz is awfully tiny.
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jtylerpittman Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:59 PM
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24. Her parents need to get spaded and nutured
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cbgb2112 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:01 PM
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25. There was an old lady
who lived in shoe, She had so many kids, her uterus fell out.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:03 PM
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26. I hope the child is alright. And, maybe this scare will put and end to her baby factory days.
Edited on Fri Dec-11-09 05:06 PM by wisteria
I mean really, 19 children! This isn't a family - it is a circus.
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Frosty cupcake Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 06:31 PM
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37. If you read the whole article
You'll see they plan to keep on having kids as long as she can get pregnant.
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malakai2 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:50 PM
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30. It's God's way of saying that it's time to stop
That's what I might think if I were religious.
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harry_pothead Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:13 PM
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41. .
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:13 PM
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43. I thought she was having twins? Hope the baby and mom is ok
Maybe it's time to stop having kids every 9 months, this can't possibly be healthy for her.
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