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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 01:54 PM
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I apologize..I was wrong..I always said Jim Carrey could NOT be a bigger a**hole than he already is
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:00 PM
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1. Hey, I wouldn't put it past Tiger Woods to create this mess.
Those several mistresses wanted mega-bucks and "treatment" is seemingly the only way to BOTH escape their pay-offs and return to golf with some semblance of respectability.

Working class men have "shameless affairs," but rich celebrities, ruling elites and super-rich are bless to have "sex additions."

It's all a scam.

Face up to your bad behavior and stop feigning "helplessness?"
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:06 PM
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8. Quite frankly, 12 or so mistresses does not seem like an addiction...
...seems like he's simply a dog.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:11 PM
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12. Yes, and not all men are the same. He just indulged himself and got caught. eom
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:49 PM
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32. Maybe a PR consultant's idea.....like from Ari Fleischer
it sounds mean enough to be an Ari-ism.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:01 PM
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2. From: Tiger - To: Jim. Message: Stop Helping. kthanxbai.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:05 PM
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7. With friends like these....n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:09 PM
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48. lol nt
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:02 PM
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3. And what if they have an Open Marriage?

:shrug:

everyone is entitled to their own opinion..I not on the Elin is a victim bandwagon either..
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:04 PM
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5. Right, and you have personal insight into the whole mess...you know
what kind of arrangement they had...wish I had such superpowers.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:08 PM
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9. the point is nobody has any insight into their marriage..

and I come across a lot of women who hang around celebs, athlete types who have groupies falling out of the ceiling at them...
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:12 PM
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14. I agree about that...but my point is Jim Carrey seems to think he does...
...also, yeah, there are a lot of women throwing themselves at celebrities, especially athletes, but they can't make the guys do what they already want to do.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:12 PM
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49. Funny, on the other thread you seemed to think Carrey must speak god's own truth. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:31 PM
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25. Fine. Who has Elin been playing with?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:03 PM
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4. Here's why: Celebrities support each other. Men like to blame women. And Carrey's batshit crazy.nt
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:04 PM
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6. It's their own private little club and they play by their own rules...n/t
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:08 PM
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10. the comedian? sorry, can't open that link
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 02:09 PM by Whisp
well what I think about all this 'sex addiction' is a bunch of hooey. yes sure I'm sure that it does exist but these guys weren't addicted, they were just assholes, thats my opinion. That being said, I'm sorry I spent this minute thinking and talking aobut something so irrelevant to my life as to the sexual habits of celebrities. ;)
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:12 PM
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13. Posted earlier..
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:13 PM
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15. I agree...I do think there is such a thing a sex addiction, because like
any addiction, it consumes you and you can't do anything else or focus on anything else...Tiger just had a lot of sex, and quite frankly, compared to some people I know, it wasn't all that much in the grand scheme of things.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:34 PM
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26. He didn't slow down his game..

the fact that he was able to still play great golf and keep that going amazes me..

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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:09 PM
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11. Never thought the guy was funny n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:44 PM
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55. same here.. He always struck me as a Jerry Lewis impersonator
not funny...just embarrassing to watch:(
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:39 PM
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70. his performance in "man in the moon" is brilliant imo
it's a pretty good movie, but a GREAT performance

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WeekendWarrior Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:15 PM
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16. Why does this make Carrey an asshole?
I think his observations are pretty much on the mark. The truth is, Woods's sex life is none of our fucking business.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:16 PM
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17. Uh, saying his wife "had" to be a willing participant in his infidelity?
Wow.
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WeekendWarrior Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:24 PM
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20. He's saying she probably knew and looked the other way
Which is behavior that's not uncommon for some women (or men for that matter). Again, Carrey's observations make sense. Whether they're correct or not is another matter -- but as I said before, NONE of this is really any of our business.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:25 PM
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22. Yeah, right...n/t
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WeekendWarrior Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:28 PM
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23. YEAH, right. nt.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:36 PM
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38. You mean a trophy wife might look the other way when a billionaire famous husband cheats?
Noooooooo!!! Never happened I'm sure.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:12 PM
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50. Say it ain't so!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:17 PM
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18. Yeah, and according to Carrey, it's not Elin's business either,,,n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:29 PM
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24. Yet Carrey made it his.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:23 PM
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19. 50 to 70 percent of married men cheat on their wives.
I'm not saying it's right but if you are married to a man the odds are he is cheating on you. There is a good chance that your Dad has cheated on your Mom or your son has cheated on his wife.

What is it about people that they literally seem to want blood from famous people who act like humans? What is it that they want? It's so creepy to read posts of people that can't let it go. He didn't cheat on you. It's between him and his wife.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:25 PM
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21. Jim Carrey seems to believe it's not even between Tiger and his wife...
...re-read it.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:36 PM
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27. Interesting stats on male v female cheating...
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 02:39 PM by HipChick

and again we know nothing about Elin except a possible propensity for violence..
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:39 PM
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30. +1001
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:52 PM
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33. and 40-60% women cheat on their husband. probably your mom fucked around on your father
your daughter fucked around on her husband.... your wife is fucking around on you

you went to the infidility report.

the first snippet was women cheat 14% and men 22%. in another report kinsey shows women 16-17% and men 20%.

there are some big problems with the game of infidility study and aquiring of numbers from various, non legit source.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:19 PM
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36. Statistics are such a consolation for the individuals who find out
their spouses have cheated...but I really don't think that 40-60% is accurate anyway.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:38 PM
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40. nor do i think 50-70. i hear ya. or it is confirmation, validation for their own behaviors. nt
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:45 PM
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42. I'm pretty sure my Mom didn't physically cheat on my Dad but he certainly..
cheated on her and he cheated on his girlfriend too. The point is that people don't always live up to their personal committments. Big fucking deal! It doesn't make them monsters and it's absurd to have them publicly crucified for being human. These are all adults and no one is doing anything illegal. Unless you are related to or have engaged in some kind of contract with Tiger Woods, you seem a little weird and stalker-like to be so involved in his personal life.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:50 PM
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43. i dont respect the person that willingly hurts another. not my thing. any manner of hurt.
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 04:01 PM by seabeyond
that is about all i feel about them.

women tend to keep their mouths shut. hide it better.

you dont know. mom could have been doing it with pool boy.

and i really dont give a shit about these celebrities personal life... at all, even a little. i think it is pure shit that this is even considered a news story and all over our face every second of the fuckin day. i figure it is just for media to get sex out there which is the laziest of ways.

i do have an issue with condition society that cheating is the majority, though.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:01 PM
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44. The entire concept of marriage as a exclusive sexual contract is very...
American and might be considered somewhat unrealistic. In this day and age with so many STDs it might make better sense to promise to be truthful to your partner instead faithful and failing at it.

I think with the divorce rates in this country (unless you would like to dispute them as well) it's a shame to force people to live up to standards it is unlikely they can meet.

As well, we didn't have a pool....did your Mom?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:06 PM
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45. i think it is much more comfortable for a man or .... boy to think women dont cheat, dont want to
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 04:08 PM by seabeyond
cheat, have no desire to cheat and a man has just gotta so ought not be held to any kind of expectation.

i also think there would be as many men that would prefer to live in a monogomous relationship not wanting their woman to cheat, as women. i am not hearing a lot fo men suggesting their wives go out and play. big thumbs up to outside sex.

so though you think it is an imposition to be monogomous, in the glorious u.s., you dont have to be monogomous. no judgment held. your right to live as you chose

i would hope, though, that you would be reasonable enough to allow others to live in a monogomous relationship as they chose witouth scorn from someone who does not believe in it.

rate of divorce, .... first marriage 41%. second marriages up over 60%. and third marriages even a higher divorce rate. i dont know that i would argue since you didnt put any numbers down. there are many reasons that people divorce and cheating is NOT the number one reason
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:36 PM
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51. I have no problem with people choosing to believe they are in a monogamous marriage.
Go right ahead. I am just wondering why a person who is secure in their relationship has to drag other people through the mud and judge them in public simply because they don't.

I'm sure it would be wrong in your case but one might think there is a little displacement going on with all this Tiger hate.

As far as the divorce rate is concerned ...I was just pointing out (as I said) that people don't always live up to their personal commitments, whatever they may be. It's not great but it's not a crime and they don't need to be burned as a witch for it in public by people who don't know them and don't know everything about their marraige.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:41 PM
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54. firstly... where is my (misplaced) hate for tiger. i have not talked about tiger, i dont care
tiger and i think i made it clear it is none of my business and not a news story.

and you comment "choosing to believe".... is exactly the sneering type comment you cant stay away from. you point the finger at other people in their judgment and then do the same on they other side of the issue..... hypocrite.

i on the other habd say outright... want to not be in monogomous relationship.... dont. no judgment necessary. your choice. you want to paint everyone as a cheater,...... why would that be?

agenda... much
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:18 PM
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63. Spell much? I think many people believe that they are in monogamous....
relationships who are not. Don't you think people who are cheated on are surprised when they find out? Or maybe you agree with Jim Carey and people being cheated on should know it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:22 PM
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64. now i think you are playing games. i think it is clear your intent with the comment.
Edited on Sat Apr-10-10 05:40 PM by seabeyond
let it go dude. you want to believe men are gonna just fuck around, deal with it attitude, live it. no one is trying to stop you. yours to live. have fun with it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:09 PM
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47. in case you have missed the poll on du.... just something to think about.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:39 PM
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52. DU poll + $1.00 = $1.00 .. ..nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:02 PM
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60. cause it is much more comfortable for you to believe 70% of men cheat. i get it. nt
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:13 PM
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61. To be honest, I don't really care how many men or women cheat.
It's their business. That's the point.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:17 PM
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62. well, you and i agree. nt
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:46 PM
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56. You are having the exact same thread I had with that Johnnie fella a few days ago.
Ha.

And they're both making the same non-points.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:51 PM
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58. amazing, huh. lol. ah well. nt
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:48 PM
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57. So, daddy issues?
That' where this comes from:

"The point is that people don't always live up to their personal committments. Big fucking deal!"
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:43 PM
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67. I question your source of stats, and your assertion that cheating is "human."
It doesn't excuse anybody. If you can't be faithful, find someone agreeable to an open relationship. But don't lie to someone that you will be faithful and then cheat.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 08:50 PM
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71. Lnk? I don't believe that stat. eom
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:38 PM
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28. It's bad enough so many people are obsessed
with who had sex with whom. A few hundred thousand people have died in Iraq, our munitions are likely the cause of three-headed babies, the right to abortion is under attack, and Steven's seat may be opening up on the Supreme Court (ya know, like a life-time appointment which will impact not only our lifetime, but that of our children). OMG, Tiger Woods had sex and Jim Carrey wasn't offended!

"He's an idiot!" "I never thought he was funny!" "They're secret butt-buddies, I knew it!" All of these, and more stories coming to "news" venues near you!

Get over it! He had an affair. It was a bad thing to do. It was not nice, and was disrespectful of his wife. Ok, can we move on? Do we have to have riveting reports about what other celebrities thought about it?

OMG, I just heard Toby Keith was jealous that Brooks and Dunn had a menage a tois with Cher and made a real neon moon! But Willie Nelson approved!

-to avoid offending anyone, I enjoy Brooks and Dunn and vastly admire Cher. Toby Keith can kiss my ass. The point is kinda that if this nonsense were going on in the lives of less mainstream entertainers, everyone would be 'wtf? and who cares?' We can't complain about the inadequacies of mainstream media (not with a straight face, at least), if we get wrapped up in this kind of crap. If we want responsible media, we have to make the choice to be responsible consumers. And, honestly, Jim Carrey's tweets just aren't a product we really need.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:38 PM
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29. I'm still baffled about why anyone gives a good goddamn
Oh no, he cheated on his wife. So does my next-door neighbor, do you folks want real-time coverage and gossip from around the neighborhood?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 02:46 PM
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31. To quote Patton Oswold: "The human rectum is nightmarishly elastic"
Never assume an asshole can't get bigger-
it will go out of it's way to prove that it can.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:17 PM
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34. Um... why is this news?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:18 PM
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35. That article is worthless (sarcasm)
it starts off by calling Jim Carrey a "funnyman."

He has never been funny.

:shrug:
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:20 PM
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37. How does that exactly make him an asshole?
Seems to make sense to me.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:38 PM
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39. I'm starting to dislike Tiger for his apologies.
He needs to tell people its none of their business, admit that most men would have as much sex as possible if they were rich and famous like he is, and tell everyone to fuck off. I'd have a lot more respect for him. This media obsession with his personal life is sick.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 03:42 PM
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41. Same could be said about Bill and Hillary.
You think she didn't cheat too? All the public agony over Bill's cheating was such bullshit. They decided how their marriage was going to work a long time ago and they were worried voters would disapprove.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:07 PM
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46. At leasat he's not promoting the spread of disease today
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:41 PM
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53. Jeez. Did Tiger cheat on you, too?
Why all this HATE for Tiger?

News flash! He's a human being with faults. Not a God.

And like Carrey says, he doesn't owe ANYBODY besides his family a thing.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 04:53 PM
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59. Your Tiger Love is impairing your reading abilities...Carrey does NOT say that...
...he says Tiger--essentially--is only answerable to Tiger...no mention of his family.

Why the knee-jerk defense?
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:23 PM
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65. What was Carrey wrong about?
I read your link and I don't see the batshit crazy part. I totally agree with Carrey that we need to get our fucking noses out of Tiger Woods' underwear drawer. His choices and his trevails are HIS business. I also agree that Elin cannot be as dumb as she was made out in the press....nobody's spouse could possibly have screwed around that much and left no clue. NOBODY.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 05:41 PM
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66. Sounds like Carrey is another in the long line of Penile Apologists
as in: "He couldn't help it, his penis made him do it. And his wife must've known about it and allowed it to happen, 'cuz she knew all along that he had a penis, and she didn't do anything about trying to control it. Everyone knows it's a woman's job to control her man's penis, 'cuz he can't be expected to do it himself."
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-10 12:30 PM
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72. I think it's more like "We don't know what these people have going on...
in their relationship so we aren't stupid enough to pretend that we do".
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 01:53 AM
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73. Always finding a way to blame a woman for their behavior.
A historically patriarchal view that Pandora and Eve (women) are responsible for all the evil men do. The world was perfect until these women came along and ruined everything.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:03 PM
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68. Great! The thread has been sentenced to death!!!! n/t
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-10 06:57 PM
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69. Tiger's dad
Article on Tiger in Vanity Fair said Tiger's dad had ladies on the side and Tiger knew it and didn't like it.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 02:15 AM
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74. It always surprises me when people - more often men - make
the argument that most people cheat, that's is difficult to be faithful, that it is an unrealistic expectations...

Often times when the roles are reversed that attitude completely changes.

I think it's human nature to be to feel jealous, to feel betrayed, to feel dejected and to go through a major depression when your partner is unfaithful.

One affair is bad enough but a bakers dozen?
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 11:51 AM
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75. Carrey's now dating (married to?) former Playboy Playmate Jenny McCarthy.
Jenny's no genius herself.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 04:16 PM
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76. They split a few days ago
Must be why he hates women now. His statement has made me very curious why he and Jenny split. You know Jenny recently decided to write a book on why men cheat, which is a quite a departure from her usual subject. Makes a person go hmmmm ...
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20353670,00.html
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-10 11:03 PM
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77. McCarthy can't be that dumb, she's written several books,
and has worked really hard to help her son who is autistic. She has done a lot of research on the subject.

Btw Carey is a has been.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:42 PM
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78. Ahhh yes, I forgot that stupid people can't write books.
Sarah Palin will tell you that. You betcha!
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klm55500 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 05:26 PM
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79. indeed. what a jerk.
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