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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:38 PM
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Imagine Greater is the mantra on SciFi channel, well let me tell
you what. With all the intelligent, well written, bordering on educational scifi from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and beyond, SciFi prefers to peddle bullshit programs about people living in the backwoods with dental work that would scare off the bravest orthodontist who slice and dice unfortunate city folk. The crap they pass off as entertainment could only be aimed at the most brain dead of us all, the most easily "entertained", or people who just put the television to hear it speak.

Most of what I have seen on this channel should have been made for under $100,000 if that and I cannot for the life of me understand, that with all the classic scifi movies from the past out therevthey would continue to peddle this crap and call it entertainment.

I imagined greater, and all I got was this crappy commercial ridden b movie scifi satire.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:40 PM
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1. Lounge?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:41 PM
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2. If you want. It's over there. n/t
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:42 PM
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3. What could possibly be greater and more imaginative than Dinocroc vs. SuperGator?
That's fucking art there!
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romana Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:43 PM
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5. What?
MANSQUITO, THAT'S WHAT! It doesn't get more awesome than that in my book.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:28 AM
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31. That must have been the winner of their contest last year
The idea was that people would suggest titles for SyFy movies for the channel to make.

No thought of coming up with a plot, or actually writing a script. Just invent a stupid fricking title and use that as the theme for the movie.

You missed the stinking, horrible "Black Storm" with Stephen Baldwin tonight. I managed to watch about thirty seconds before I changed over to something else. Who on earth thinks that man can act? At least the title was better than "Manquito" but it should have been reserved for whatever hurricane hits the Gulf this summer instead of for a movie with no plot and no actors.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:45 PM
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8. You are telling on yourself. n/t
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:43 PM
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4. thank you
I just lost a few minutes of my life reading your idiotic post

can I have them back?

you ever hear of a little invention called the remote control?

use it to turn the channel

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:44 PM
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6. No dammit, I want good scifi, if you pay for something you should
get it.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:46 PM
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10. Good skiffy is an oxymoron..
Now some SF is good but Sturgeon's Law still applies, just like it does to everything else..
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:45 PM
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7. I have the Dune miniseries they did a few years ago..
It's actually pretty good, probably better than the movie was..

Of course you still have to have read the book to really have a clue what's going on..

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:46 PM
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9. Hey, you'd better get over here and add your 2 cents worth...
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:49 PM
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11. I agree....The whole production sucks from start to finish. Boring story lines....
..."monsters" that a 7 week old kitten would laugh at....effects that look like they were made by "Mr. Johnson's graphics class 101"
...and the sound....Jesus Christ!...the sound is like some piece-of-shit synthesizer that they picked up in a pawn shop for 45 bucks.

other than all that..not bad. :)
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:54 PM
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15. Eh, I have that beat, I got an M-Audio Keystation 49 at the thrift store for $3..
Hook it to a computer and you have a pretty damn good synthesizer..

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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:57 PM
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19. It would most likely Blow Away the crap that they (sci-fi) uses.
:)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:52 PM
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12. awwww. . I LIKE Eureka....n/t
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:53 PM
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13. Byeah.... it is somewhat unreal though. Well, parts of it... n/t
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:55 PM
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16. Eureka is cool. We mean the "Matomba" ..Giant Shrimp of the Sea" stuff.
:)
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:54 PM
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14. You are right on. America is being dumbed down.
I have felt the same. With all the great scifi and fantasy book in print, the crap they the scifi channel put out is ludicrous.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:55 PM
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17. Thank you for your honest opinion. n/t
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:01 PM
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21. Give me the original Twilight Zones anytime.
Can't beat 'em.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:03 PM
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24. Outer Limits was not bad either... some of them were stellar. n/t
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:56 PM
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18. SyFy series - good. Movies? I could write better. They suck ass :) (nt)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 08:57 PM
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20. Because there wasn't plenty of shit sci-fi from the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s.
Because the Electric Universe theory doesn't make the current SyFy programing look like Carl Sagan's Cosmos by comparison.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:02 PM
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22. Why are you being so obtuse?? It's not like you... not at all. n/t
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:03 PM
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23. They have made a series of juvenile B-Grade monster movies...
along with shows like Battlestar Galactica. I enjoy Eureka because it is classic goldenage of Science Fiction stories made for a modern audience. I also enjoy Warehouse 13.

Merlin, no so much.

And I simply don't watch their string of snakes on a plane rip offs.

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:05 PM
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25. I expect next we will see, steaks on a train where a herd of
killer cattle break free from their haul cars and invade the diner cars.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:11 PM
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27. You could have a good future writing Scifi plots... n/t
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 12:51 PM
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34. You know, the number of times that has happened to me, I could have written a script by now.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:08 PM
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26. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Fantasy..
This is the most ROFL hilariously bad thing I've read in a loooong time..

The Eye of Argon by Jim Theis..

http://www.rdrop.com/~hutch/argon

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:26 PM
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28. I agree about the good good good scifi novels.
Andre Norton has written some of the best books about scifi fantasy ever put out there. And when you see all the crappy movies, that come from Hollywood you wonder what mentality is behind them. The movies that came out in the 50's while a little camp were better written than the stuff they show today.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:32 PM
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29. They've done some good stuff. The remake
of Battlestar Gallactica comes to mind and the spin off of Caprica. But I have to agree their Saturday original movies are worse than some of the crap made before the sixties. Also, If you think the 50's to 80's were so great, I have a whole collection of really cheaply made Sci-Fi movies that I keep around for laughs because they are so unintentionally funny. Oh, they call themselves SyFy now.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-05-10 09:33 PM
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30. after Dr. Who, Galactica, MST3K--now they invite people to make a bad movie and submit it nt
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mcollins Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 02:35 PM
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32. It would be interesting to see them make a series
based on the Warhammer universe. Either the fantasy or Sci-Fi worlds I think would be cool. Lots of darkness in both, really, and they could talk about current problems using that world. Kind of int he way the OST did in the sixties.

I think that are making a WH40K movie, though. Heard that before, haven't seen it yet.

Most of the movies made about fantasy just suck. Conan was the only one I can think of that did it right, before LOTRs, that is. I hope they do the Hobbit was well as these two.

Michael Morcock's books would be a killer as well.
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:57 PM
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33. SyFy does produce some decent stuff
but they can't afford much so to help pay for it, they churn out cheap to make dreck in bunches.

I mean between the various Stargates, BSG, Eureka, Warehouse 13, and Sanctuary series we've gotten, I can deal with a few Supergators and Dinocrocs.

Not to mention Tin Man, Riverworld (times 2), and a few other nice miniseries.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 06:50 AM
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35. Two Words: Rodger Corman. The "good old days" weren't always that good.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 06:57 AM by FormerDittoHead
Compared to Rodger Corman flicks, Sci-Fi Channel movies look like Steven Spielberg did them.

FWIW, James Cameron got his start working on a Corman film.

I saw a tutorial on Adobe After Effects, widely used in the movie industry, and the 'sample' was from a Sci-Fi Channel movie featuring a knights and dragon. The timeline that they're given to crank that stuff out is incredibly short, and IMO, what they're able to do, given the time, is impressive.

In the After Effects project manager, certain parts are marked, finished, needs works, urgent, etc. There was a LOT of "needs works" footage left on the finished project!

As for Rodger Corman, back in the day, consider you had to go to the MOVIES to see them! A woman I know remembers when, as a child, she HOUNDED her mom to take her to see THIS:

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Dandy Dem Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:09 PM
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36. SyFy is only interested in making money not providing a product.
Just like Apple.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:38 AM
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37. Sci-FI Network Ain't What It Was Two Years Ago
Granted, even then it was catch-as-catch-can.

A year ago I started noticing that it was running advertisements for a booty call website at 4:00 in the afternoon, during a showing of Pirates of the Caribbean. Someone (probably Zucker) really fucked it up over there.
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