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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:39 PM
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Why Is Justin Bieber *This* Popular?
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But why? It’s easy to understand teenage girls going nuts for a wholesome kid armed with radio hits expertly crafted by top industry songwriters. It's a bit tougher wrapping your head around the particular level of shrieking megafame Bieber has so rapidly attained. He’s not excessively talented: His voice is accurate but thin; his dancing, at best, is competent and rote. At first pass there is nothing dramatically different between the general appearance, musical style, and marketing of Bieber and, say, Jesse McCartney, one recent blip on a lengthy lineage of teen pop predecessors that never even so much as sniffed JB's current stratosphere. So is there a good reason Justin Bieber is this famous?

The company line is that Bieber’s massive success is rooted in the particulars of his YouTube ascendance. The message, as articulated by Never Say Never director Jon M. Chu: “He wasn't chosen by a big corporation; he was chosen by the people, kids at home in their living room who are on the Internet all day long.” Manager Scooter Braun, to the New York Times: “We supplied more content. I said: ‘Justin, sing like there’s no one in the room. But let’s not use expensive cameras.’ We’ll give it to kids, let them do the work, so that they feel like it’s theirs.” And Chu again: “He's kept the relationship a one on one, almost sort of a texting relationship with his fans, through Twitter.”

Is that really it? It's not a novel marketing strategy: Nearly every new artist throws up purportedly impromptu YouTube clips, nearly every new artist tweets excessively. But you could argue that Braun and Bieber have executed it better than most; that the details of their approach to creating the perception of open communication channels with fans, whatever they are, must be, considering the results, cleverer than the rest of the competition. (And, in the same vein, you could argue that the behind-the-scenes machinations of Usher and L.A. Reid — two members of the extended Bieber team who have driven music industry successes for decades — must have been more effective as well). Basically: that, partially, Bieber's success can be attributed to lucking into a team that has embraced the new models and that works harder at, and is smarter about, applying them.

It's true that Braun used some of the same tactics with his previous artist, the rapper Asher Roth. Braun discovered him on the Internet as well, that time on MySpace, and also flew him to Atlanta, where they together worked on establishing industry connections and creating online buzz. And Roth, mostly on the back of the radio hit “I Love College,” was commercially successful.

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Or, as more colorfully put in this YouTube video by young Belieber Tara: “If you hate Justin Bieber, kill yourself.”

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:41 PM
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1. In a country...
...where you can make a fortune, legally, selling Velveeta® as cheese, anything is possible.
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speltwon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:22 PM
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9. That's inaccurate
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 03:25 PM by speltwon
First of all, Velveeta is NOT sold as "cheese". It is sold as "Pasteurized Prepared Cheese Product". Since it contains milk protein concentrate, it cannot be sold as "cheese" according to the FDA. Velveeta is also very popular in a # of countries besides the US, so the idea that it's just dumb merkuns that eat it (which I see as implied) is not true either. It's sold in Australia as "KRAFT CHEDDAR" for pete's sake. Ironically, Velveeta was invented by a recent Swiss immigrant (BLAME SWITZERLAND !!! :) )

Velveeta is very high in saturated fat, but so is traditional cheddar. Velveeta offers a lower fat version, just as you can get with traditional cheddar.

Fwiw, I've never even purchased velveeta, although I've eaten cheez dip with Velveeta in it that was pretty tasty. And I'm a person that regularly spends $25+ a lb on fine cheese. It is what it is.

Note: I am in no way sponsored by Kraft foods, and I have never even purchased Velveeta and have no intention to. I've made my own cheese, I've even consumed breast milk cheese, and I prefer very radical smelly cheeses.

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Rabblevox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-11 08:09 AM
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15. I'm down with "blame Switzerland", but does that mean I can no longer "blame Canada"?...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUABWt4zidY&feature=related

ps. I like cheese. Real cheese. From, you know, real cows.
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ElbertHubbard Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:41 PM
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2. I have the same question about
facebook. Is clicking a like button worth 50 Billion?
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 04:32 PM
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10. Beartracks has "Liked" your comment.
:hi:


lol I am actually not at all familiar with the Facebook business model. My spouse and I were just wondering the other day how a free service that doesn't do pop ads is supposed to make money.


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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 01:57 PM
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3. It's a disease
At the moment, they're calling it Bieber Fever syndrome. But it's only a matter of time before it's included in DSM-V. :evilgrin:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:12 PM
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4. Beiber's massive success is rooted in Elvis Presley and the Backstreet Boys
An R&B/hip-hop sensation who brings in white middle-class teenagers--a VERY large and VERY monied market.

:headbang:
rocktivity

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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:25 PM
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5. Because my 5 yr old granddaughter says he is!!!
She has declared that only girls like Beiber, and girls rock!!!!

Nothing to see here. Carry on. :hi:
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:30 PM
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6. Teen idol with screaming girls....nothing really new here.
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 02:32 PM by chelsea0011
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 02:57 PM
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7. I read somewhere that Bobby Sherman is now a deputy
sheriff in San Bernadino County. Justin take note.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 03:03 PM
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8. I heard he was an EMS officer.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 07:57 PM
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11. I keep waiting for the next degenerate rock act to end all this garbage
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 09:59 PM
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12. Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 10:01 PM by rocktivity
are the Michael Jackson and Madonna of their generation.

With the difference, of course, of Jackson having actual talent.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Lastactiongyro Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-11 07:01 AM
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13. He sold his soul?
:P
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melanie14 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 09:52 AM
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14. fans
His fans make him more popular than he deserves. Not saying he doesn't deserve success, but Justin Bieber is pretty huge at the moment in society, all because his fans are freaking zealous and crazy. He is famous because little kids can't tell whats "good" music and what isn't, but we were all like that when we were little!




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VPB_MARIA Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:09 AM
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16. Why is Justin Bieber *This* Popular?
Good to meet you all, I'm a new member on this forum.

A generation in desperate need of role models and legends.
Too bad the latter are extinct from the music scene.
What we witness now is a fragmented, temporary aggregate of industry-constructed, so-called artists--more like shooting stars doomed to disappear after a short life span.
Can symbols have an expiration date? Apparently they can, just like values.
Welcome to the era of bits and pieces.
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