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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:02 PM
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Pete Townshend calls Apple 'a vampire'
The Who guitarist Pete Townshend has urged Apple's iTunes to use its power to help new bands instead of "bleeding" artists like a "digital vampire".

Townshend made the comments in BBC 6 Music's inaugural John Peel Lecture, named in honour of the legendary DJ.

He also argued against unauthorised file-sharing, saying the internet was "destroying copyright as we know it".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15528101
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:16 PM
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1. I gather he'd like to charge more per song than $0.99???
Odd, because if he's arguing in favor of digital rights to music, iTunes helped extinguish the former free access to any number of music files, IMHO.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 07:31 PM
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2. I thought 'home taping' was 'killing music'...
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:05 PM
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3. And I thought it was the record player itself that was killing music. Allowing people to hear ...
Edited on Mon Oct-31-11 08:07 PM by GodlessBiker
the musician's art, through listening off another's Victrola, without having to pay for the privilege at a performance.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:21 PM
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4. Even if he was the the Silicon Valley equivalent to Daddy Warbucks, what does it matter
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:37 PM
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5. In my opinion, the problem with artist and iTunes comes
down to this:

Artists would like to put out an album with 3 good songs and 7 crap songs.

iTunes allows consumers to buy the 3 good songs and pass on the crap songs.

Therefore, iTunes forces artists to put our COMPLETE offerings that their fans would appreciate. I have no regard for artists who cannot see the value of iTunes.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 11:38 PM
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6. Once paid $20 dollars for one song

1 song on the album was good, the rest was crap. My album buying slowed to almost nothing after that.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:18 PM
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10. Agreed. iTunes is the way. If an artist can't deliver, then
buy the songs you like and ignore the rest.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:32 PM
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7. Artists don't think their art is crap
"Artists would like to put out an album with 3 good songs and 7 crap songs"
No....They would love to have all their songs off their albums to be hits. It will never happen though, it's the nature of art, but don't let that stop you from bitching about songs that aren't up to your snuff. I'll keep liking an artist for their entire artistic output, not just their greatest hits.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:17 PM
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9. Unless it is a concept album, like The Wall or Dark side of
the moon, artists know what is good work and bad work. Lazy artists will put good work on an album, along with filler, and keep the remainder of the good songs for the next album.

Exceptions to the rule, of course, but please. iTunes is just a distribution method.
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:19 AM
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12. "Lazy artists"
That's all I need to hear from you..........goodbye
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 07:29 PM
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8. Click the link. Townsend is not talking about compensation
he is talking about the supporting elements of the music business that Apple does not do. Support for new artists, all manner of slack left by the record companies and not picked up by those such as Apple who picked up the cash but never joined in the culture and art of the music, they just sell it. That's what Pete's talking about, not wanting to sell his own songs. He's rich, he's established. He knows that some of the industry elements that got him where he is are not available to new artists in the 'i-Tunes' age. An industry that is happy to profit from a garden it is unwilling to seed or tend is in fact vampire like, and Apple is 75% of all online sales, they are the industry.
Pete is among the class who do see benefit from iTunes, what he is concerned with is Apple not seeing the value in the artists, and in the growth of the art itself. He is making excellent points, none of which have to do with income for his level of artist, and everything to do with others becoming his level of artist, having had the support to create his level of art.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:26 PM
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11. Not at all true. I listen to non-secular, non-mainstream
music and have NO problem getting my albums through iTunes.

In the iTunes age, it also opens these artists to electronic distribution from their websites. Apple (computers in general) make it so much easier to record music to be distributed through the web. If you truly have talent, you will be heard.

The digital age, the web, and iTunes. Don't buy his argument or yours.
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