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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 05:51 PM Original message |
Sodom and Gomorrah |
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The Blue Flower
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Fri Jan-12-07 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. They mistreated the aliens among them |
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hobbit709
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Fri Jan-12-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. They failed to care for their |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. I can't personally take the old testament |
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TRYPHO
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. we dont know WHO but we are fairly sure HOW MANY wrote the OT |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. Looks like some interesting reading |
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More Than A Feeling
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Fri Jan-12-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Have you read The Bible Unearthed? |
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TRYPHO
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Sun Jan-14-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. No, but... |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Why the need for an author to determine the message? |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Because - if you don't know the author you cannot |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Because you want to read it literally? |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Because I want to make a rational judgement. |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. How can you get something rational out of Luke |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Not at all. |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. There is no historical backing for your assertion |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. You know - the gospel writters - by definition ,were the |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. They were not over 100 |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Well, there are four gospels. |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Still all four cannot be proven to be written by the apostles |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Firstly, I like Luke - |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Not hebrew but aramaic |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Common language - of course they did - |
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Meshuga
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Sat Jan-13-07 07:02 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. The rule works for them all |
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kwassa
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Sat Jan-13-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Jews at the time wrote in Greek |
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Meshuga
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Sat Jan-13-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I knew you were going to use this article |
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kwassa
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Sat Jan-13-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Why do I need to fulfill your requirement? |
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Meshuga
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Sat Jan-13-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I thought you were someone else |
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kwassa
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Sun Jan-14-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Mr. Wiggles |
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Meshuga
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Sun Jan-14-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Kwassa |
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Sun Jan-14-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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kwassa
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Mon Jan-15-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. I accept that we disagree. |
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kwassa
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Mon Jan-15-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. one more source |
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okasha
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Mon Jan-15-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. "What would this prove or disprove?" |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. That even if one was wrong you would have to prove four |
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Meshuga
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Sat Jan-13-07 07:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. You try to make the number of scholars sound like a big number |
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TRYPHO
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Sun Jan-14-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Jesus may have lived, but the Gospels aint the truth, they are lies. |
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Meshuga
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Mon Jan-15-07 05:56 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Thanks for pointing out.... |
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MistressOverdone
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. I'm not sure I agree with that |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. I assume they would not constitute you religion, either. |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Judaism sees these stories as fiction and it is still part of the religion |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. If you want to compare apples and oranges - I suppose |
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MistressOverdone
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Sun Jan-14-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. You are correct |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife
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Wed Jan-24-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #58 |
77. Yes, but BadCat, do you really know anything about the Gospel authors either? |
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Zhade
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Sat Jan-13-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. You do realize the NT has the same lack of credibility, right? |
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Clevenger
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
4. It's a fairy tale. Why should God get angry about what people do?... |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Yeah, |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Since it is a fairy tale... |
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Clevenger
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. The problem is that some think the fairy tale is real. n/t |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Yep, and these people are ridiculous! n/t |
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TheWraith
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. According to the New Testament, they were inhospitable. |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. That is NOT in the gospels. |
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blonndee
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Fri Jan-12-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. It might be understood as such from Luke |
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Joe for Clark
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Fri Jan-12-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. An historical reference from Luke - IS NOT |
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blonndee
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Sat Jan-13-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I didn't say it was a NT version of the story. |
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TRYPHO
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Well if they had... |
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pretzel4gore
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. good question. maybe it's just atypical rejection of nature |
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DemBones DemBones
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Fri Jan-12-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. The story of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is in Genesis 19, |
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TRYPHO
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Keep reading, it gets more interesting! |
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DemBones DemBones
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Why do you assume I didn't read the whole chapter? |
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TRYPHO
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. "Keep reading" wasn't directed at you per se |
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Der Blaue Engel
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. From a literal reading, it sounds like intent to commit gang rape |
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Another Bill C.
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. Then, there's the part where |
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Der Blaue Engel
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yes, those were the virgin daughters he offered up for gang rape |
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TRYPHO
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Fri Jan-12-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Lots lot was an awful lot |
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MistressOverdone
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Fri Jan-12-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. I believe it is probably a fable |
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Meshuga
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. It is a fable... |
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okasha
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Sun Jan-14-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
63. You have it backwards. |
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Meshuga
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Mon Jan-15-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Yep |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Fri Jan-12-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
31. The sin was lack of hospitality |
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knitter4democracy
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Sun Jan-14-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. I like Akhmatova's poem on it, "Lot's Wife." |
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Taverner
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Mon Jan-15-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
69. I thought it was because they slept with giants (angels) and had kids |
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Odin2005
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Fri Jan-19-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
70. The story was possibly based on an actual natural disaster. |
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Evoman
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Fri Jan-19-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
71. I thought the sin was being gay. |
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NMMNG
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Sun Jan-21-07 03:29 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Yep |
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shimmergal
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Sat Jan-20-07 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
72. It's a horrible story, from my POV. |
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Meshuga
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Sat Jan-20-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. God is a Democrat |
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TRYPHO
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Sat Jan-20-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Jewish Princesses.... |
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Jamastiene
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Tue Jan-23-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Not to mention the incest that happens after the incident |
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