Speakers urge Christians to turn back ‘neo-pagan’ drift

[joefree1]

Feb 25, 2005
By Doug Waters

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (BP)--Speakers urged Christians to continue to be “salt and light” in laying claim to America’s rich Christian heritage during the 10th annual Reclaiming America for Christ conference.

“We’ve got the Holy Spirit’s wind at our back,” Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, told 900 attendees from 40 states who met Feb. 18-19 at Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. “What we saw in 2004 is more and more Americans ... rejecting the 1960s counterculture.”

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In describing recent advances in the moral arena, Land said the 2004 election was "not a Republican win,” but rather a win for family, pro-life and Judeo-Christian values. Citing voter statistics from the November elections, Land said 66 percent of those who attended any kind of religious service more than once a week voted for President George W. Bush compared to the 80 percent of non-attendees who voted for Sen. John Kerry.

The next 10-15 years will decide whether America succumbs to a “neo-pagan triumph,” Land said, or if it returns to a Judeo-Christian moral consensus where rape and illegitimacy are rare, marriage and child-rearing are valued, and prisons are converted into museums.

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So much for saving the environment, education, and diversity of thought. Wonder where they would put us all when "prisons are converted into museums?
B*B,
joefree1



"It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)

[Trillo]

1. I couldn't make it past, "not a Republican win,"

"The sun didn't come up today," would make as much sense.

First confuse with illogic, then spin.

[GainesT1958]

2. If he doesn't like "Neo-Pagans"...

Well, then, why did he and so many of his Kool-Aid-drinking supporters vote for the leading "Neo-Con"?:eyes:

To those of us in the Reality-based world, Neo-Pagan=Neo-Con!

B-)

[Dervill Crow]

14. neo-pagan = neo-con?

Huh?

[Enquiringkitty]

3. I'll put the friggin' wind to his back. The 60s counterculture was wrong

about one thing. When they come after you, you can't always stay peaceful. I was one of those 60s counterculture people and wish they would come back. All the religious right can offer is restrictions on rights, human suffering , guilt, and shame. That is where they triumph, that is where they get their money ... off of the guilt they inflict on people. Are we going to wait until America sees it's own inquisition? They can do it through you personal info on line now ... "Hackers for God". They must be stopped!!!

[Tux]

10. Here, here

If we can stop them now, we could set them back. The ridicule they got after the Scopes Monkey Trial set them back a bit and they tried to separate themselves from society. If they get hit a lot harder this time, they may just leave us alone for a long while.

[Stealther]

4. Wonder if someone will ever explain to him...

...that EVERY SINGLE ONE of his so-called 'holy-days' were stolen from the Pagan calendar.

[ochazuke]

5. Coming up next: Lynchings

"As American as Apple Pie".

[applegrove]

6. And what will they call this country because America was created by

secular humanists!! All of them!

[anitar1]

7. IMO, They Have Wind Alright

but not at their backs. And it may be more like turning museums into prisons.

[Behind the Aegis]

8. Is there a difference?

Is there a difference between these people and the Taliban? Is there any difference between them and the KKK? I really have a hard time seeing it. They all seem very similar to me.

[Tux]

11. Nope

Fundamentalism is growing internationally. What we can do is stop our own terrorists (Christians) and then fight off fundie Muslim terrorists. I think Bin Ladin's plan was to get these fools all upset so they can reduce our nation to crap.

[saltpoint]

9. On this occasion I would like to urge all fundamentalist --

-- Christians, connected or not to that specific conference, to renounce their faith instantly and join a neo-pagan group at once.

[Dervill Crow]

12. This fundy already did.

Dubya and his followers have probably done more to advance neopaganism in this country than Gerald Gardner, Ray Buckland, and Silver Ravenwolf combined.

[saltpoint]

13. Hi, Blue iin Portland. Well my hat's off, no question.

It's true -- a thinking, discerning person might actually be drawn to neo-paganism after considering the "Christian" examples of the Bush administration.

All good wishes to you.

[Dervill Crow]

15. Thanks Crusoe!

I don't have a problem with Jesus and christianity in general, it's just that many of his followers seem quite crazy and I really don't want to be associated with them.

I just thought of the cigarette commercial, "I'd rather fight than switch." I'd rather be a witch than a right (winger). Eeeew, really bad obscure pagan pun. Sorry!

Blessed be.

[saltpoint]

16. No -- it's a really good wordplay. Bravo.

I think a lot of the fundamentalists who have hijacked Jesus from his own tradition should be spanked and sent to bed without dessert. But that's no good, because way too many of them would LIKE that -- especially the spanking part!

When I read Marion Zimmer Bradley's THE MISTS OF AVALON, I was reminded again of how balanced and beautiful "religion" was before the coming of the Paulist Christians. The pagan/Christian dialogue in that novel is just terrific.

I think Marion Zimmer Bradley would nod her head at everything you've said in these posts.